1 rod rule bypass

[HandGunner]

Tht is a very good idea. I have been bass fiching so long I been trying bottom feeders now which is why I ask either way I dont keep fish if I do its 1-5 fish and thats after I call my pops and ask if he is going to ever touch them and cook em. If he says yea I will cook some fish I brinf home a few. I think 2lines side by side is much the same as one or consider it a umbrella rig. Now 2 lines about 50 ft apart thts more like 2 people fishing. But i would never leave my exspensive g loomis rods not even 10 yards away from me with bait on the line waitig for a taker

[delcecchi]

Umbrella rigs are not allowed in minnesota either, unless only 1 hook

[LMITOUT]

Once again, simply change the Conservation license to allow the use of two lines.

Then everyone's unfounded fears of a larger harvest are squelched.

Done.

[LMITOUT]

It's not that I can't understand why guys would want to fish with multiple lines. Its just that the enjoyment you may get doesn't over rule the negative impact it could have on fish that are more regularly harvested.

A limit is a limit.

[Duffman]

Put me down as not in favor of two lines, but would buy a second license or pay an extra fee to be able to use two lines for no other reason than I'll catch more fish.

[aanderud]

It be nice to have 2 lines to use 2 difderent baits at once. So inland waters is a no no but what about south dakota border and wisconsin border? Do I have to be on one or he other side?

[CANOPY SAM]

So we're nearly surrounded by states that allow 2-3 lines each on border waters, yet we're not allowed 2 lines each on inland waters during the (Monnesota) open water season. That is kinda funny, you gotta admit.

Is there a way "around' this law? Well...you can always dangle one foot in the water with a line tied around your big toe...and just pray you don't get into a big fish!?!?

[FshBloodRiverMud]

Bring a friend with some kids :-)

Call me odd, and I am; but i frequently fish Friday through Sunday and often take vacation days to extend those trips. I'm in the boat 24/7 during those periods, rain or shine, hot or cold, sleeping under the stars, chasing trophy fish to release.

Don't know many other people who share the same interest in spending that much time in a boat. I do the same thing ice fishing in my portables.

HOwever, there are MANY people like you who are satisfied with a 2hr fishing trip; whereas i almost won't hook up the boat unless i'm going for 8+hrs.

I fish 110+ days a year and you don't do that when you NEED to fish with someone else. Me, i don't need another soul in the boat to keep me company. But, i would fish local lakes more and skip traveling to 2-3 line ares if inland lakes were 2-3 lines.

I'd pay triple the license fee, and reduced limits too.

My current license costs me less than $0.17 per fishing trip.

I have (Recently) had a $400 combo pulled into the drink while fishing with 3 lines. I retrieved the rod, but that doesn't stop me from putting it right back into another rod holder.

The difference here is those who are bucket fisherman and know no other way and then there are those who trophy fish.

Some people are happy to have the time to just go fishing. Some of us do it enough that additional lines are just additional fun.

I ramble a lot

[Ebiz]

At the end of the day I think that common sense dictates this would have to be done with an all or nothing approach. It would seem to be an enforcement nightmare for a CO to have to physically check every angler using two lines to see if they are legit be it a 2 line stamp, extra license, conservation license, note from their doctor, etc.

Then take it a step further as a CO you pull over a boat multiple people in it, some are adults some are kids, more lines out than anglers, and a combination of single and two line licenses or lack thereof - sounds like fun deciphering that one

[amateurfishing]

there are only 2 times i c viable 2 line situations for open water for local smaller lakes

1. having an extra line in the water with with blades/spinners/bottom bouncer or whatever while casting with another

2. trolling....and i would jump all over this to help dial in on fish a bit quicker

i think a great idea is an extra charge for an extra line (no different than 1/2 price for conservation license as i see it) and i would jump all over that.

as most have said, limit is limit, although maybe some places maybe hooking mortality may go up?

[Getanet]

Guys, I think you need to rethink the "limit is a limit" rationale. It's too simplistic. With two lines people still won't catch a limit often, but they will catch and keep more fish more often. Two lines would put more fish in the boat, and more of those fish will wind up in the frying pan. How many lakes do we already have that are struggling to keep up with all the fishing pressure?

This is from the DNR web site, bold emphasis is mine:

4. Limits of fishing success

Didn't catch a lot of walleyes last Saturday? The fact is, most anglers don't catch even one keeper-sized game fish on a typical day of fishing. That's not because the fishing is poor; it's just the nature of fishing.

On any given day, 95 percent of walleye anglers harvest two or fewer walleyes. This generally holds true on every walleye lake in Minnesota and across the U.S. For example, 1992 was considered the best year in modern history for fishing on Mille Lacs, one of the top walleye lakes in the United States. Yet even during that banner year, 76 percent of anglers there on any given day did not catch a fish.

It's not such a bad thing that anglers don't always or even regularly catch their limit. There simply aren't enough fish. For example, we estimate that Minnesota has roughly 18 million walleyes over 14 inches long (general keeper size). Approximately 27 million angler days are spent fishing each year. If every angler caught and kept just one walleye on average per outing, the state's entire keeper-sized walleye population would be wiped out before the year was over.

As fishing pressure increases while the number of fishing waters stays the same, anglers crop off the keeper-sized fish as soon as the fish reach keeper size. Soon, more and more small fish dominate the fish populations. Decent-sized fish become rare.

The only solution, says biologist and a growing number of anglers, is to limit the number of medium-sized and large fish that are harvested. In time, that would result in an increase in the average size of fish that anglers catch.

[DTro]

SO its a walleye discussion again then?

walleye, walleye, walleye, walleye

[Getanet]

No, it's not a walleye discussion, that's just the example the DNR used. Feel free to insert whatever fish you like, provided they are one that typically winds up in the frying pan in MN. The simple fact remains giving fisherman 2 lines will increase the pressure on fish populations, many of which already get pounded pretty hard.

[fishnut2]

I totally disagree with getanet and the Red River is a prime example. It is the BEST channel cat fishery in North America and you can use 2 lines on it. You may talk about increased harvest but if the average person can't catch a walleye on one rod, they are not going to do any better with 2. Even Canada allows the umbrella rigs to be used. No new license. Just allow everyone to use 2 lines during the year.

[Maverick]

I tried to get my legislator to push a bill that would allow two lines when fishing from shore or a dock and two lines when fishing from a boat that is anchored. This makes it somewhat similar to ice fishing. Not exactly, but close enough. I think this would satisfy the majority of folks who could or would fish with two lines.

[DTro]

That's a fair proposal Maverick and I agree would satisfy most that are in favor of it.

[LMITOUT]

Guys, I think you need to rethink the "limit is a limit" rationale. It's too simplistic.

[LMITOUT]

At the end of the day I think that common sense dictates this would have to be done with an all or nothing approach. It would seem to be an enforcement nightmare for a CO to have to physically check every angler using two lines to see if they are legit be it a 2 line stamp, extra license, conservation license, note from their doctor, etc.

Common sense would also dictate that I could fish with no license whatsoever and nobody would know until I was checked.

I could go drive an 18-wheeler without a CDL endorsement on my driver's license and again, nobody would know until I was checked. Is that an enforcement nightmare for police/HP? No all or nothing approach there and it seems to work.

Circling back to the Conservation license as it stands today where only one line is allowed, I could keep 3, 30, or 300 walleye and nobody would know... until I was checked.

The "enforcement" argument is a moot point.

[DTro]

The conservation license tie in is the absolute no brainer here. Yes, it would be that simple.

I don't agree with any extra enforcement issues, if anything it give them more a reason to come check you.

It's really not that complicated. Our CO's are smart guys they can handle it.

[LMITOUT]

I tried to get my legislator to push a bill that would allow two lines when fishing from shore or a dock and two lines when fishing from a boat that is anchored. This makes it somewhat similar to ice fishing. Not exactly, but close enough. I think this would satisfy the majority of folks who could or would fish with two lines.

I would strongly disagree with that concept.

[PurpleFloyd]

They should just use Walleye tags instead of limits. Each angler gets X Wally tags with a license and can use as many lines as they want until the tags are gone, then you either purchase additional tags at a cost or C and R the rest of the year using as many lines as you want.

[Igor Drackenwolf]

I like the conservation license tie-in as well. It makes perfect sense. Go ahead and fish with two lines, but you can harvest half the fish.

Let's get St. Paul up to speed.

[DTro]

[FshBloodRiverMud]

there are only 2 times i c viable 2 line situations for open water for local smaller lakes

1. having an extra line in the water with with blades/spinners/bottom bouncer or whatever while casting with another

2. trolling....and i would jump all over this to help dial in on fish a bit quicker

Bahahaha

Yep.

I can't think of anything else.

Get out more

U need to try something else. Might improve that 24" PB Snot rocket.

[HandGunner]

I can catch a limit of 10 crappies in 1 hour or catch a limit of 10 crappies in 30 mins with 2 rods... in the end 10 crappies have been removed from population. I think this is one of those debates that go nowhere until it happens. Remember when we cant even use trebels as a plain hook and they decided to let us now and nothing really happened we can just do it.