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Ponder for Anything....


zepman

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I bet the Vikes are willing to trade him this week for just about ANYTHING they can turn in to value. 5th-6th-7th rounder would give them the slightest advantage on trading up to an earlier round on someone they want.

IMO...pull the trigger on a bag of footballs. Draft a QB early and late...sign a couple of UDFA's, and say goodbye to Ponder. No way he's on the roster come August.

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No reason to keep Blunder, we gave him more then enough chances to prove himself and he took a dump every time. In his greatest moments he was still below average.

I don't see why any team would want to trade for him, he's a former 1st round pick that played like a late rounder. Teams would be better off taking a shot in the dark at a late round QB.

He couldn't do squat here even though the box was stacked for years against him. He could be a little better then mediocre if he goes to a team with the best O-line ever assembled and a bunch of speedy short route WR's.

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If you can get value for him I say trade him. Although he will be fine backup behind cassel. Give what ever rookie we draft some time to get up to Speed. Rookie qb's shouldn't start right away or be thrown to the wolves to early, easy to wreck a young qb. IMHO

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There is absolutely no chance of Ponder being traded. You can stop wishing for that now. It will be Cassel, Ponder, and who ever they draft.

I hope they trade down, pick defense, than trade back up into late Rd 1 for Garappalo or Carr. Some people are saying Bridgewater could now fall to Rd 2 or latter.

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When you are looking for a starting QB for your teams future, value isnt added by taking less desired QB in later rounds, even if a player is assumed to go in the first round, and doesnt go until the 3rd. A pie stain, is still a pie stain.

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That is true Scott. And also with some folks saying to draft a QB early and then later on..........not going to happen. Well it shouldn't happen, no reason to waste a second pick on a QB, they have too many glaring holes they need to fill.

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They will end up just plain out cutting him before he will ever get traded. No matter who the Vikies take in the draft, Ponder at best will be #3 QB on the roster and once his contract is up, he will just not be resigned. You never know tho.....TJack has been with a couple of teams after the Vikings and I don't know if he was any better than Ponder.

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That is true Scott. And also with some folks saying to draft a QB early and then later on..........not going to happen. Well it shouldn't happen, no reason to waste a second pick on a QB, they have too many glaring holes they need to fill.

But QB is one of them!

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True, but I think go early for one of the more polished QB's and they shouldn't have to spend a later round pick on another one. Maybe if they feel the need before training camp they can sign one of the unrostered ones.....sometimes you may even find a gem doing that.

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Christian Ponder belongs on the list of top-6 QB busts of past decade

4 MAY 2014

Ryan Leaf or Peyton Manning? That was the drama at the top of the 1998 NFL draft, with two seemingly elite quarterbacks in play.

Fortunately for Indianapolis, Manning was the pick, and the Colts eventually won a Super Bowl with him at the helm. Infamously for San Diego, Leaf didn't have the same makeup and quickly fizzled out of the league.

Two years ago, while Manning was on his way to winning the NFL's Comeback Player of the Year Award with Denver, Leaf was beginning a prison sentence for burglary and drugs. That's the extreme contrast of success and failure at this critical position, of course, but Leaf isn't the only high-profile quarterback whose struggles in the professional game significantly set back the team that drafted him.

Here are six of the biggest busts of the last decade, weighing actual performance, selection number and franchise impact:

JAMARCUS RUSSELL: By far the Leafiest pick since that fateful selection by the Chargers, Russell was taken by Oakland first overall out of LSU in 2007. After a 7-18 record as a starter, with 23 interceptions and only 18 touchdowns on his resume, Russell was overweight and out of the league three years later. The worst part for the Raiders, who have yet to find their franchise quarterback, is the list of other players drafted that spring among the top 15 picks: Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, Adrian Peterson, Patrick Willis, Marshawn Lynch and Darrelle Revis, to name a half-dozen potential Hall of Famers.

VINCE YOUNG: The third pick in the 2006 draft out of Texas, Young was at the forefront of the new wave of dual-threat quarterbacks to enter the league. The NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year award winner for Tennessee and a two-time Pro Bowl pick, Young had more on-field success than many of his underachieving peers. But he had a falling out with the team, struggled to stay healthy, had off-field issues and has not appeared in an NFL game since 2011. The Titans used the eighth selection in 2011 on quarterback Jake Locker and still aren't close to being sure if this position is set.

MARK SANCHEZ: After two trips to the AFC championship game in his first two years in the league, Sanchez carried a nickname "Sanchise" that suggested long-term success with the New York Jets. But the fifth overall pick in 2009 out of USC was never able to cure his turnover problem, becoming an easy target for the tabloids in town, and his average of 6.4 yards per pass attempt in 2012 ranked 29th in the league. Last season he got hurt in preseason and the job went to rookie Geno Smith. Sanchez is now a backup for the Philadelphia Eagles after being released by New York.

CHRISTIAN PONDER: Following the retirement of Brett Favre, a deep crop of quarterbacks in 2011 offered several options for Minnesota with the 12th selection. Ponder, from Florida State, took over the job midway through his rookie year and improved enough in 2012 for the Peterson-driven Vikings to finish 10-6 and in the playoffs. But some of the warning signs of ill-timed turnovers and poor decisions under pressure that popped up in his first two seasons persisted last year, and he was eventually benched for Matt Cassel, leaving the Vikings looking anew in this draft.

BLAINE GABBERT: Two picks before Ponder, Jacksonville took Gabbert out of Missouri. The Jaguars didn't have much support for him at other positions, but he struggled to keep up with the pro-style offense and went a woeful 5-22 as a starter, with one touchdown against seven interceptions over three starts last season. He was benched for Chad Henne, a relative journeyman. The Jaguars are still searching for a long-term solution, and Gabbert has become a backup for the 49ers behind Colin Kaepernick, who was drafted in the second round that year.

BRADY QUINN: Somebody had to make this list on Cleveland's behalf. The 22nd pick in 2007, Quinn memorably tumbled down the board from top-of-the-draft projections, looking stunned and ashen as the television cameras captured his reaction each time a quarterback-deficient team passed on him. Quinn is 4-16 as a starter, and the St. Louis Rams last year were his sixth NFL team. The Browns have had as much trouble drafting and developing quarterbacks as any team, and by 2012 they were taking another would-be bust in the first round, Brandon Weeden, who has already been released after two seasons and now is with Dallas.

© The Associated Press

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When you are looking for a starting QB for your teams future, value isnt added by taking less desired QB in later rounds, even if a player is assumed to go in the first round, and doesnt go until the 3rd. A pie stain, is still a pie stain.

You're making the assumption that Carr and Garappolo are not as good as Manzel and Bortles. In my opinion they are better. Therefore you're better off taking another player first than drafting the QB later. That's drafting smart. Don't assume just because a QB is rated as a high draft pick, he will be a stud. We know that's not true.

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There is absolutely no chance of Ponder being traded. You can stop wishing for that now. It will be Cassel, Ponder, and who ever they draft.

I hope they trade down, pick defense, than trade back up into late Rd 1 for Garappalo or Carr. Some people are saying Bridgewater could now fall to Rd 2 or latter.

You're right..he might not get traded but that doesn't mean they haven't been trying to.

Generally speaking, when teams move on from a bust of a player and draft his replacement, they will not keep the "bust" on the team for lots of different reasons. Cut, release, trade...however it's done doesn't matter. I would be shocked if Ponder is on the roster this Fall.

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