BuckSutherland Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 The only one that I really see a need to resign would be Everson Griffen. He can take the place of Allen at RDE. He has as much speed and power as Allen. I know Gerhardt is the "3rd down back", but let Adrian catch the 3rd down passes. He can do it. Simpson played pretty good this year, so if they do resign him, I don't think it would ruffle a lot of featers. Griffen is a much better all around DE than Allen, and is giong to be expensive. Gerhardt and Peterson are essentially the same thing. Simpson will probably be gone because I think he has a heavy suspension coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott K Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 I would like to see Michael Johnson from the Bengals come join his coach. It could likely happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minky Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I think they should try hard to retain Allen.He is a good player with a lot of heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceHawk Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Sign Michael Johnson definitely. Love Jared Allen but his best years are behind him time for some younger blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Schmoe Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 hogwash. Mathis is a year older than Allen and he just dominated the AFC. I would try to keep Allen. He still has some game left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepman Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Sign Michael Johnson definitely. Love Jared Allen but his best years are behind him time for some younger blood. Johnson had less than 4 sacks last year....that's pretty alarming to me.He's gonna want big $$$$ too.I think Allen would be great under a guy like Zimmer...get his contract "Viking friendly" with lots of incentives, surround him with a better scheme AND players, and watch him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott K Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 I would take Allen back in the 5-7 million range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmitty3 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Everson Griffin needs to be resigned and given the starting spot on the edge. Every time he gets a chance out there he is making plays, and putting pressure on the qb. Been saying for 2 years he needs more snaps playing DE. I think he'd be an upgrade over JA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Z Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 It will be an interesting signing season for the Vikes with the number of Free Agents they will have .Key Free Agents: QB Josh Freeman, RB Toby Gerhart, WR Jerome Simpson, WR/QB Joe Webb, OL J’Marcus Webb, OL Charlie Johnson, OL Joe Berger, OL Seth Olsen, DE Jared Allen, DE Everson Griffen, DT Fred Evans, DT Kevin Williams, LB Marvin Mitchell, LB Desmond Bishop, CB Chris Cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikestabber Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Johnson had less than 4 sacks last year....that's pretty alarming to me. He's gonna want big $$$$ too.I still think we gotta nab this guy. I think the sack number was fluke (he still put a lot of pressure on QBs), and he is much more well-rounded than Allen. He's a dominant run stopper and an upgrade at this point when you factor in Allen's age. Plus a cross-over piece from Zimmer's defense would be helpful in getting the other guys up to speed. I'd welcome the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 . I think Allen would be great under a guy like Zimmer...get his contract "Viking friendly" with lots of incentives, surround him with a better scheme AND players, and watch him go. Jared should play for league minimum since we honored his whole contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishersofmen Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Matt Cassel opted out of his contract with the Vikings and Josh Freeman hits free agency next month after his run on the Minnesota bench, which leaves Christian Ponder as the only quarterback with a contract to play for the Vikings next season.General Manager Rick Spielman said Friday that he’s anxious to see how Ponder looks working with offensive coordinator Norv Turner and quarterbacks coach Scott Turner this offseason. As a result, he says Ponder won’t be leaving the team before the start of next season.“Christian will be here; I don’t anticipate anything — him not being here,” Spielman said, via Master Tesfatsion of the Minneapolis Star Tribune.There’s not much reason for the Vikings to approach things any other way. They’ve already signaled that they’re planning to select a quarterback at some point in the draft and Ponder’s $1.7 million salary makes him a reasonably priced backup for that player or someone else they acquire during the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Ponder is the new T-Jack...always lingering in the background, ready to provide failure at a moment's notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHINGURU Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 You don't get nicknames like Blunder and Junkson for nothin.Blunder isn't goin anywhere except to 2nd or 3rd string lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckSutherland Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 You don't get nicknames like Blunder and Junkson for nothin.Blunder isn't goin anywhere except to 2nd or 3rd string lol Of the practice squad????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey lee Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I did read one article where Norv said he would like to keep Ponder as he felt with a good offensive squad, he could be better. I am sure we will get another QB in the draft or in a trade.I would cut Allen's pay and keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott K Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 I would say Ponder hasnt really had a fair chance, having the incompetent coaching, but he hasnt showed me that he can be anything special. I wouldnt mind Ponder as a second string, he knows the players, but if we go in the season as him being the number one option, then they may as well balck out all the games, because I doubt they will sell out to many games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMusky Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Selling out games won't be an issue. The bank only holds 52000 with the new plans and they have that much in season ticket holders.Allen wouldn't be worth having around unless he took half of what he is getting now and I don't see that happening. They have one of the most cap space in the league so I expect some big moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Z Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 It is rather Alarming that Spielman considers Ponder roster worthy, sure his salary is dead money meaning we pay it even if he isn't on the team...........but then if he's on the team you run the risk of actually using him. I think avoiding that risk is worth the $3.2 Mil loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott K Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 I thin k Ponder would be a ok backup. He has been around enough, and has taken enough snaps with the players to be an ok option to back up a half game, or so. I cant say he knows the system, becasue we arent sure what our system will be yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAfish Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Ponder had a sore arm in camp last year and it was kept pretty hush-hush. Now if your arm is sore and the job was his to lose then you throw short high percentage passes and hand it off to AP as much as possible. It would have worked just fine if the Vikes would have had a top ranked defense to go along with the conservative offense. Once the lead was lost, Ponder was not going to out-gun other offenses. Don't be surprised to see the Vikes draft a QB and let him be backup to Ponder for a few games and then draft mostly defense. At least Ponder has a great attitude and will do whatever it takes to help this team. No future in either Cassel or Freeman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minky Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 How much do we still owe Ponder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABS4ME Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Ponder had a sore arm in camp last year and it was kept pretty hush-hush. Now if your arm is sore and the job was his to lose then you throw short high percentage passes and hand it off to AP as much as possible. It would have worked just fine if the Vikes would have had a top ranked defense to go along with the conservative offense. Once the lead was lost, Ponder was not going to out-gun other offenses. Don't be surprised to see the Vikes draft a QB and let him be backup to Ponder for a few games and then draft mostly defense. At least Ponder has a great attitude and will do whatever it takes to help this team. No future in either Cassel or Freeman. While all that MAY be true... that was by far the tallest, coolest glass of purple Kool-Aid I have ever seen!Good Luck!Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott K Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 How much do we still owe Ponder? 2014 $1,760,2772015 FAFully guaranteed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishersofmen Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I agree Ponder has a good attitude and is a good guy, unfortunately it is obvious he doesn't have the ability to compete in the NFL. Like others have said when Cassel, who is a backup, can come in and look great because of what you are used seeing that is not a good sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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