Hester Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I know is early but who would you guys like to see the vikes draft next year. Let's say we get a top 5 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckSutherland Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 QB. Hands down. Have to wait and see who shakes out. I am guessing there are going to be a couple gone before we pick. Lets just hope we blow enough to pick # two. Don't have much faith in Spielman evaluating QB talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YiGGiN4SLoBS Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 QB. Don't have much faith in Spielman evaluating QB talent. You can say that again.... and again. And yet againThis is a qb rich draft. Vikes could get a stud qb in the second round in this draft. It will be interesting to see where they pick. I wouldn't mind taking the best MLB in the draft with the first pick either if there is gonna be good qb's available later. This is supposedly a qb heavy draft, but that doesn't mean there is an andrew luck we must automatically select with our first pick.Maybe Spielman should ask Ted Thompson who to pickI also think with Allens cap money off the books they should target a VETERAN CB in FA that is solid and won't break the bank to help mentor Rhodes and Robinson. I could care less about Cris Cook. He shouldn't even be on the team next year. CLEARLY, this team misses Winfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hester Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 Anybody want Clowney from South Carolina with the first pick and a QB with the 2nd pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckSutherland Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 No Clowney for me. Its all about a QB. I am not a fan of the RG3, Michael Vick, Donavan McNothing, scramble types. I am a huge fan of the Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck /Steve Young type that moves the pocket and runs as an absolute last resort. I don't think you will find a true stud pocket passer Like Brady Manning or Brees in this draft. Either way I hope we have a new coaching staff to help our new QB. I just hope Josh Freeman doesn't hit the field again, be half decent and get us 3-4 wins, and then we spend the next 2-3 years figuring out he sucks and meanwhile we fall in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJuice1980 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 There are a lot of teams that are set on their QB and I would disagree with that idea that this is a "QB rich draft" only because nobody wows me. It seems a lot like the Ponder draft talent wise at the QB spot. We are kind of in a situation where we need Freeman to shine, I just have doubts about that. I definitely don't want to see Johnny football in purple though, not with a high 1st rd pick anyways. We need a few great o-lineman and I think there's a few of them in the draft. Those late rounder o-lineman don't seem to pan out well, especially here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmitty3 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 We should be taking a qb early in every draft until we find one. You don't win in this league without a qb, it's simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckSutherland Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Those late rounder o-lineman don't seem to pan out well, especially here. Go tell that to JA who had his @$$ handed to him by a no-name 4th round pick on Sunday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckSutherland Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 We should be taking a qb early in every draft until we find one. You don't win in this league without a qb, it's simple. Exactly. The long list of trying to pick up everyone else's scraps has left us with ZERO Lombardi trophies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmitty3 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Freeman is who we thought he was. He is not a good quarterback, good quarterbacks don't go 5 games without completing at least 50% of their passes at least once. I don't get why it's so hard for the Vikes to realize you need to draft a good quarterback. There aren't anymore Favre's out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efishsport Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I am thinking either Teddy Bridgewater or Marcus Mariota depending on our draft position. Christian Ponder was a reach pick and he never was supposed to go in the first round--he's going to be a career backup qb.Plain and simple--we need a franchise QB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YiGGiN4SLoBS Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 id personally rather get one of the many SEC QB's. Seems to me like they would have a better chance to be pro ready facing the competition they do. Bridgewater lights it up every week but louisville doesn't play anyone. And it seems like Louisville has a good QB system that works for them but doesn't always translate to the NFL, same with oregon. I know Buck wants us to draft the next Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning, but that just doesn't happen that often. If we can get one with a strong accurate arm who doesn't FREAK out in the pocket like ponder i will be happy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJuice1980 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 If we go QB I'm going to feel pretty bad for him. He is going to have no chance. Who is going to block for him? One things for sure, he's going to have to have the quickest release ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckSutherland Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 You will be amazed how much better the line will look with a better QB, some better coaching/schemes and average play calling. Would be nice to get a RB that could do something out of the backfield too and pick up a blitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJuice1980 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 The coaching/schemes/play calling would do much more to improve play than any QB would. This team isn't playing for anybody, a rookie isn't going to warrant better play from them and there isn't a veteran out there that we could get here that would either. We're in a pretty bad situation. There needs to be some wholesale changes, starting with the top. Frazier and pretty much the whole crew needs to go now. Pull the trigger Zygi, 1-6 enough said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMITOUT Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 If we go QB I'm going to feel pretty bad for him. He is going to have no chance. Who is going to block for him? One things for sure, he's going to have to have the quickest release ever. That's the excuse we were fed a few years ago and nothing has changed. I wasn't buying that load of fertilizer then, either. Draft a QB and stop with the excuses. It's almost like this team is afraid to draft one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott K Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I agree, we need a QB first. At this point, nothing else matters. Until we get a QB that is at least capable of becoming a quality starter in the NFL, we dont stand a chance. I think we have some talent on the line. Our offense is just lacking a decent QB, and maybe a center that has a little size to actually block someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMusky Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Before selling out and drafting a QB with our first pick, I would want to know what the free agent market looks like at QB.Not sure I am sold on Clowney. Havent seen him play much, but there sure is a ton of hype around him.There should be several QBs to draft this year that go well into the 2nd round. I am not completely sure that any of the predicted top draft pics at that position are game changers like Andrew Luck, so I would be more apt to spend a high first rounder on something else like D line or secondary/LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABS4ME Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Quote: Our offense is just lacking a decent QB, and maybe a center that has a little size to actually block someone. and an OC... and an O-line coach... and a head coach... but other than all the coaches, a QB, a center and a RT who isn't McKinnie-ish You're right there! Good Luck! Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABS4ME Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Before selling out and drafting a QB with our first pick, I would want to know what the free agent market looks like at QB.Let me help you... the top 3 that I can think of (top is a term I use VERY loosely)Cutler - yuckVick - gagFreeman - you already have him (ish?)Not sure if there are any other starters out there. I wouldn't take a flyer on a back-up QB from another team. He's probably a back-up for a reason... The Vikings continually look for that 'fix' at QB... With the exception of Culpepper, They have for a couple of decades found a used up starter and plugged him in for a year or two. Time to actually draft a real starter and use him for 10 years. Not reach in the draft, not take a sleeper from Podunck Univerisity, not taking a primarily rushing QB... but a real bonifide QBThere record of drafting a QB has been dismal... all I can say is:Good Luck!Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Z Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 If they only draft a QB and don't work on the line I feel bad for him....real bad. Think of David Carr, he was pummeled in his years at Houston. Pretty much made him gunshy and a horrible qb, even as just a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofishfisherman Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Only option for the 1st pick is QB. I know the defense is horrible and is the bigger reason we are losing games right now but everything starts at QB. You can't win consistently without a QB and its harder to lure free agents to a team without a QB.There may be decent QB's around in the 2nd round but do you really want to wait around and hope one of them is still on the board? Do you really want to play that sort of game with the most important position on the team when its such a huge need?I have no desire to sign a free agent QB. If a team is willing to let a QB walk there is usually a good reaon for it. Franchise QB's rarely hit free agency and jump to a new team. If they do its because there was some sort of major injury concern (Brees, Manning). You are much more likely to find a stud defensive player in free agency so that is what I'd look for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getanet Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 There may be decent QB's around in the 2nd round but do you really want to wait around and hope one of them is still on the board? Do you really want to play that sort of game with the most important position on the team when its such a huge need? It all depends on where we wind up in the draft and who's available when we pick. The logic above is what brought us Ponder. I don't think we really wanted to take him, but we didn't want to wait and see who was left in the 2nd round. Let's just hope the Vikings don't do something stupid and win 4 or 5 more games this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getanet Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 That's the excuse we were fed a few years ago and nothing has changed. We? I always knew Lmitout was a closet Vikings fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofishfisherman Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Quote: There may be decent QB's around in the 2nd round but do you really want to wait around and hope one of them is still on the board? Do you really want to play that sort of game with the most important position on the team when its such a huge need? It all depends on where we wind up in the draft and who's available when we pick. The logic above is what brought us Ponder. I don't think we really wanted to take him, but we didn't want to wait and see who was left in the 2nd round. Let's just hope the Vikings don't do something stupid and win 4 or 5 more games this year. That is true. All of this is just speculation. Without knowing where we pick or who is even declaring for the draft its impossible to say what the best course of action is. I'm speaking just about needs. QB is our biggest need and should be the biggest priority. After that defense all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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