placing apples by deer stand question

[waxworm09]

I read the baiting rules in the regulations, but just want to make sure I'm legal. The way I read it, its legal to place apples or other bait as long as you remove it within 10 days of hunting the area? I have a camera out and have been seeing a few deer but few and far in between. I have about 15 5 gallon buckets full of apples that I picked off the ground by our trees and was thinking about dumping a few in front of my camera. If I remove them 10 days before I hunt it sounds like that is legal? Thanks

[Monkster]

Waxworm, from what I understand, you are coorect. People place bait all of the time in front of cameras to get deer in (off season). The only problem is that archery is open, so make sure a stand is no where near them apples.

[jentz]

Any residue left from placing food is baiting.I'd be weary hunting over it.

[Jameson]

Put out a bucket at a time so you aren't cleaning up 14.5 pails of apples in a couple of weeks.

[Odonata]

I agree with jentz, picking up every last rotten apple isn't worth breaking the law or a ticket. I'd dump em, but not by your stand.

[BLACKJACK]

Put out a bucket at a time so you aren't cleaning up 14.5 pails of apples in a couple of weeks.

+1

Its a month until gun season, go for it, just don't do too many at once.

[mntatonka]

I don't know where you're feeding (I assume near Willmar), but remember that there are two areas where feeding at all is explicitly illegal. The CWD zone in the south, and the TB zone in the Northwest.

Any other areas, all feed must be removed at least 10 days before hunting. How completely you want to remove feed is up to you, and whether you think a CO would agree that you've completely removed all feed.

[walleyehunter80]

dump the apples and don't worry about it, a CO is not going to give you a ticket if some residue is left after you clean up. He is more worried about joe blow and his time delay corn feeder in the back 40

[bigbucks]

dump the apples and don't worry about it, a CO is not going to give you a ticket if some residue is left after you clean up. He is more worried about joe blow and his time delay corn feeder in the back 40

And if he tickets you for that residue just show him walleyehunter80's post & you'll be good to go...

I agree that's probably their main focus, but if they think they can charge you with baiting & make it stick I think they will.

[mntatonka]

And if he tickets you for that residue just show him walleyehunter80's post & you'll be good to go...

I agree that's probably their main focus, but if they think they can charge you with baiting & make it stick I think they will.

depends on the warden and how his day is going, but it would definitely be within the law for him to write a ticket.

It's just like speeding, sometimes you get away with it, other times you just get warned, and other times you get a ticket because the cop is having a bad day.

[jentz]

I'll bet walleyehunter knows nothing about the local CO, Jeff Dentz.You'll be in sorry shape if he gets to looking for baiting!! You will be in court and have to prove your innocence aginst his word,Pics and the law.

[maxx rpm]

Seems like a simple question, and was replied to as yes that is fine to do. If he implies that he will remove the apples, good for him. If he leaves some out, that is his choice to make. Doesn't really impact my life either way. I guess my thought would be as to the point or reason for "luring" deer by the camera. I am not a huge camera guy, fun to look at, but not necessary. If you see some deer but not many, I would rather try to figure out why--natural food areas, water, bedding areas, that may be a better place to hunt. I don't think a few apples will move a herd of deer for a few days, and when the apples are gone, will the deer be gone as well? I think the apple approach is trying to take a short cut to investigatory work that should be performed. Where is a deer most likely to be during gun season? That is the question, try different trails, fields. Put up a couple stands and trial and error, and hope for some good luck.

[jentz]

Fair chase is the name of the game..Baiting isnt fair chase.A pile of apples,lick blocks,salts wont attract deer for years.The apple TREES may because there natural and have been present for years.Like trails deer follow they have followed them for years,does lead their young on the trails and the young learn, a random pile of bait may attract a stray here and there.It wont change their habits for the lazy hunter.

[hockeybc69]

Plant a food plot of some sort and nothing to worry about.....

[96trigger]

The warden in my area would most certainly give you a ticket for any residue left from a bait pile.

[BLACKJACK]

You guys worry too much. In past years I've dumped cob corn in front of my cameras during the summer to attract the deer, they eat the corn off and the cobs are still there, technically the 'residue' is still there but I'm not going to worry about it.

I also pick up the apples under a couple of apple trees in my yard, helps keep the worms down in future years, I dump them by my food plots - I just make sure that they're not close to any of my deer stands.

[bigbucks]

I disagree on the salt lick part. We've got sites we've had established, some as long as 20 years. Absolutely deer trails go by some of those salt licks. Even when they're not hitting it those trails still go to it or near it. Deer will show up there when they're not after the salt, now they're in good places, so they might be there anyway.

[Musky Buck]

I was gonna say bigbucks I would hope initially the salt was placed where the deer trails already were, the deer trails in my area have been the same for 40 years and have not changed at all, because the habitat is unchanged for the most part. Salt for most of the deer is not needed in November or December where I'm at as my trailcam is getting 0 pictures unless it's 2 AM and then it's generally a fawn who's momma is hangin in someones yard.

[Musky Buck]

As far as placing apples goes what for in a way, they have a long list of eats out there right now, corn,alfalfa,grass,acorns,soybeans,we gave hundreds of apples to the neighbor pig farmer and he liked that, also mentioned if you want to pound those honkers in my chopped corn this weekend go ahead ! Woodies in there also. I can see putting the apples to use and getting them out of your yard, ours were getting destroyed by Asian beetles, the cows ate them like crazy also, and you don't have to worry about whether it's bait or not or this 10 day thing. I don't even like putting a trailcam where I hunt in a way, I like leaving things as scent free as possible because I want the deer (mature deer) to feel safe and secure and not change their routes until I hopefully fold him opening day. If I do T-Cam my area I always go in on a nasty rainy windy day to retrieve it so hopefully any scent I leave is long gone, but it depends on your deer experiences where you hunt, where I'm at the mature deer are touchier than a junior high kid who breaks out with acne and doesn't sleep too well the night before.

[hockeybc69]

I nominate that post as the rambling of the year! LOLLLL

[Wensel]

I have a question for the original poster.

Are you "placing" these apples to get a picture or change deer habits?

Maybe you could move the camera?

Or it is just easier to drop a load of bait?

This gimmick is a loop hole in the game law, enjoy it now, I'm confident this will go away soon. I know many that play this game year round.

I could not imagine saying "Son grab the apples and lets go bait, film,hunt or whatever"

[Musky Buck]

Thanks Hockey BC, I've won that 4 straight years lol. In a nutshell giving them to a farmer landed me a 440 acre farm to waterfowl hunt ! :)Beats feeding them to a deer for sure.

[Eric Wettschreck]

It's the middle of October. Firearms season is a month away.

Iffin you put out a couple pails of apples now and they're still there in a month, then there are not any deer in the area. Or any other critters for that matter.

Put em out if you want to. When you go to your stand and there are still apples around I'd think aboot moving to a different spot.

[Archerysniper]

So the cows ate the Asian beatles?

[paceman]

So the cows ate the Asian beatles?

Now that would be bitter tasting milk