Night Deer Hunting approved by Chippewas in Wisconsin

[leechlake]

Star and Tribune is reporting that the Wisconsin DNR is suing the Chippewa band in Wisconsin because they approved night time deer hunting in the upper 1/3 of Wisconsin.

Good grief...

[matchset]

wow.

[gopher_nation]

Unreal, just unreal.

[walleyehunter80]

Thats when you get the big uns

[DonBo]

Gonna be a fight, that's for sure.

[mrklean]

I see a lot of money being spent and not a good result from it

[Archerysniper]

It's all ready legal here through the treaty

[walleyewess]

I dont see them as another race we are all americans and we should have to abide by the same laws.

[B-man715]

Hate to say it.........but this land was theirs for thousands of years before we came.

The bigger stink everybody (non-indian) puts up the more they will prove their point.

Like us, the majority of them hunt for recreation and to put some meat in the freezer.

...........I grew up with many natives and went to school with them. The root of their culture is conservation. But they are no different than us when it comes to capitalism ($$$$)........if there is no money in killing deer at night, why even bother.......

Even if it passes, they will not be able to kill deer on private land (unless they have permission or own the land). Only reservation and public land in the ceded territory will be open.

Trust me, I don't like it one bit. But it is what is it.........

[shortfatguy]

We need a president who will end all of these treaty rights. Supposed stewards of the land out shining deer and netting spawning fish. Ya really looks like they take better care of the resource than the rest of us do.

[hunter322]

Hey thats fine let em hunt at night. But, they should also have to use "PRIMITIVE" weapons that they make themselves with no new technologies. Just like their ancestors did.

[shortfatguy]

I agree hunter. Use primative weapons and only take what they use to survive. And if they choose to live this way they can harvest whatever they want as long as its not on private land. BUT no money from the feds in any form. Make the choice, live off the land or live off of the government but not both.

[Jameson]

Like fire?

It sounds like the Indians are [PoorWordUsage] about the Cheeseheads allowing nighttime wolf hunting, so they are going to hunt the deer at night. Are they limited to what they can hunt wolves with at night like we are here with coyotes?

[charliepete]

I wish the state would tell them to do what ever they want as far as game laws, as long as they didn't mind the state opening its own casinos (maybe levying an extra tax to non tribal members winnings being brought into 'America' across tribal boundaries), stopping maintenance on roads inside tribal lands, not allowing indians access or support from state agencies including schools etc. It seems like a pretty sweet deal to be an american and citizen of the state when it suits you and then spit in its face when it doesn't.

[Odonata]

A litte animosity in this thread?

[Mr.Seaguar]

A litte animosity in this thread?

No its sanity. Jokes on the CHippewas. You cant kill deers at night when you brothers the wolves already ate em.

[lichen fox]

From Red Lake to Baudette, they have been hunting at nite like forever...They can only hunt on land they own...but red lake has alot of 40's - 80's 1/4's scattered throughout the Beltrami Forest and Red Lake Wildlife management...so, in essence they can pretty much hunt the whole area...as long as they only shoot deer on thier property. And over the years that I have bear hunted out there, I can count on one hand the number of times we have actually seen nite hunting going on...it starts in Sept. up here...Just because it's legal doesn't mean everyone eligible will do it.

[leechlake]

since I was the OP on this I will just mention this. I assume if this happens pretty much all shooting will be from our near a road.

A friend of mine legally can shoot deer from a vehicle because of a major disability. Practically speaking, in my opinion, it's nearly impossible to do it. One, he has to make sure he isn't on private land when this happens. Like posted earlier with so much private and public land mixed in to figure out that the deer is not on private it makes it difficult for him.

#2 if he does shoot a deer pretty much every time he is "confronted" by someone that he shot from the vehicle. While it doesn't take long to understand his handicap and for him to show the permit it makes for a 100% uncomfortable experience thus ruining any fun that he'd get.

Point-he doesn't do it anymore.

So...throw in that certain people could legally shoot deer at night and throw them in with poachers that legally can't and you have a mess. Not to mention I'd believe most firearms safety instructors would add shooting guns at night without being able to see whats beyond the target as number 11 on the Ten Commandments of handling a Firearms.

[laker1]

since I was the OP on this I will just mention this. I assume if this happens pretty much all shooting will be from our near a road.

A friend of mine legally can shoot deer from a vehicle because of a major disability. Practically speaking, in my opinion, it's nearly impossible to do it. One, he has to make sure he isn't on private land when this happens. Like posted earlier with so much private and public land mixed in to figure out that the deer is not on private it makes it difficult for him.

I know of no case,even disabled or tribal can they shoot a rifle legaly(sp) from a public road. It was determined that is a public safty issue.

#2 if he does shoot a deer pretty much every time he is "confronted" by someone that he shot from the vehicle. While it doesn't take long to understand his handicap and for him to show the permit it makes for a 100% uncomfortable experience thus ruining any fun that he'd get.

Point-he doesn't do it anymore.

So...throw in that certain people could legally shoot deer at night and throw them in with poachers that legally can't and you have a mess. Not to mention I'd believe most firearms safety instructors would add shooting guns at night without being able to see whats beyond the target as number 11 on the Ten Commandments of handling a Firearms.

[leechlake]

"I know of no case where you can shoot from a road way"

let's be blunt, that's what's going to happen. We can beat around the bush on it all we want but 99% of guys aren't going to go out to their favorite deer stand at a field edge and turn the spot light on when he thinks a deer is in the field and shoot it or set up and rattle and grunt and flip the switch when he hears a deer approach.

it will be deer in headlights and either shoot from vehicle or standing on roadway next to vehicle.

[CANOPY SAM]

The safety issue alone is all that's needed to end this argument. Animosity, envy, racism, whatever you call it, leave it out of the discussion.

It should not be allowed because it's extremely dangerous, period. But then again, I suppose that would have to include varmint hunting at night as well.

I support the tribes, native Americans as a whole, and the treaties that were put in place to try and save a sliver of their original existence on this planet.

Are there Native peoples that abuse the rights put in place from these treaties? Yes. Are there also Caucasian welfare clinging lifers taking advantage of every subsidy program made available by our state and federal government? Again, yes.

If this is going to be a logical, intelligent discussion, please keep it civil, free of jaded comments, and biased, borderline or blatantly racist opinions. Thank you.

[Jameson]

...It should not be allowed because it's extremely dangerous, period. But then again, I suppose that would have to include varmint hunting at night as well....

That's the big argument. How can hunting wolf at night be deemed safe while hunting deer at night not be safe?

[gopher_nation]

I haven't put a penny into an Indian casino, or spent a dime on their rez's just to be sure I support as little of their double standards as possible.

[laker1]

Its a power play by the tribes,because they don't want a wolf season. Its as simple as that. In reality it has nothing to do with hunting for deer.

[shortfatguy]

I dont know for certain on the wolf hunting but with night hunting coyotes you can only use a shotgun with shotshells for safety reasons. So are the indians going to be using a shotshell? Maybe they should have to use a hand made bow and the light of the moon. I would support that.