Dogs running deer

[lungdeflator]

I think this has been brought up here before, but I was wondering if anybody has had personal experience with the problem and had a positive outcome rectifying the issue?

I have pictures of our neighbors dog 1/2 mile from their house out in a swamp. I have seen it chase deer while I am bowhunting. It was at our cabin dragging around the deer hide from my bow buck. I saw it yesterday on the way out to my stand and it just barked at me and ran away. These neighbors are not friendly and have to much money (not a good combination in these situations). I told them about the problem earlier today and left a message on the CO for our area. I know you can't shoot them until January-July. Just wondering what other people have done with a similar issue?

[highlife4me]

Doesn't that dog look and act like a coyote? I do like dogs but when the owner neglects their dog and they are allowed to run wild the problem needs to be addressed. If the the owner does not take care of the problem others will take care of it for them.

[archerystud]

I've had a similar problem in the past. Also law enforcement wasn't much help either.

Hope you have better luck than me. Let me know how it goes for you.

[mnguy152]

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[bogwalker]

It does not sound right to kill the dog because it has a poor owner. How about a live trap and a new home?

[mnguy152]

but are you will to take a dog that was acting agressive to the guy giving it to you. PLus there is alot of dogs out there. Don't get me wrong I do like dogs and plan on getting one one day.

[lungdeflator]

Well I cant do anything to the dog, such as kill or trap and move, because I already spoke with them about it once and they would know exactly what happened if the dog was to dissapear. I know its a busy time for CO's too so Im not really expecting a call back. Im going to meet with them tomorrow night.

[mnguy152]

How about little pepper spray shot may give him the hint he is not wanted

[pureinsanity]

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[bogwalker]

Good luck.

[RK]

Dogs running deer is a tough deal. On the one hand, it can really be chronic with some dogs, and they can do a lot of damage, not the least of which is running deer off a hunting area and screwing up a hunt. On the other, it's someone's pet...and it's the owner's fault not the dog's. he's just being a dog.

We've had this issue a few times, once with a neighbor's very large, very aggressive Rottweiler. He came into our farmyard several times and went after our dog, and was also seen running deer. After repeated calls letting the owner know what was happening, with no results, he got shot. End of story. Neighbor never came looking for him, or mentioned it again...which pretty much says it all about his quality as a dog owner.

I would explain the regulations to the dog owner, which are: "Between January 1 and July 14, a dog that is observed wounding, killing, or pursuing in a way that endangers big game may be killed by any person. A peace officer or conservation officer may kill a dog that endangers big game at any time of the year. The officer or person is not liable for damages for killing the dog." Tell him you'd hate to see it come to that, but it could. Also can't hurt to explain that a dog running loose is really in danger from coyotes or other predators as well. If you're up by Bemidji, timber wolves might solve the problem for you before too long...

[Pinusbanksiana]

the danger in shooting a dog during deer season is that it could be a fellow hunters dog. I don't condone dogs running deer, but it does happen even with the best of trained dogs. Chronic deer chasing is another matter.

[lungdeflator]

The dog is a GSP by the way, that the owners spent a big amount of money on. I know what this dog looks like so if it came to shooting it there would be no question whether it was just some dog that was grouse hunting with its owner. I dont think the people that own the dog understand what it does and where it goes when it "runs off for awhile, but comes right back". When I get pictures of the dog over 1/2 mile from their house, it did not just wander out of the yard after a squirrel. The lady I talked with said they can kennel it up more during deer season. But this isnt just about during rifle season, dogs running deer is unexceptable year round.

[picksbigwagon]

Unfortunately there is not a lot that can be done. Remember it is not the dogs fault for acting like a dog. The owner is the problem and I would continue to call the CO and sherrif about the free running dogs in your area. If they are acting aggressive towards you, make sure the authorities know that.

[hookset]

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[lungdeflator]

Well quick update on the issue. I stopped at their house last night and talked with them. They didnt know the dog was running deer. Some direct quotes from the owners:

"We live in the country so it should be free to run around in the woods"

"We taught it to run out of the yard and the gardens"

Pretty unbelievable stuff. What do they think the dog will do out in the woods when it encounters a deer after being trained to chase them? I might be wrong about this but I dont even like it to be running free in the woods without the owner around, chasing deer or not.

[Jameson]

You have now given warning and been nice.

..."We live in the country so it should be free to run around in the woods"...

You bought woods in the country to be able to shoot what you want...

[Cheetah]

Be the better sportsman and do the right thing, continue calling the cops and animal control. Try to catch it so animal control can pick it up from you.

[TooTallTom]

Or, try to catch it and feed it and make it like your house more than the current one.

At what point does the dog become abandoned property?

[Dave S]

Doesn't matter if the dog is in the country or the city, the owners are still responsible for what the dog is doing on or off their property.

I've got a neighbor who has a couple labs that would always come over looking to have fun with my GSP. One day they showed up and the black lab, a 120 lb male, turned to look at me and stood his ground. He finally left and the owner got a phone call immediately after. I told her this is the last time this dog will be coming back to my property.

Their fenced in yard was fixed and he hasn't been back.

[deerminator]

If the dog is friendly enough, use a treat to get him to come with you and keep him at your place until hunting is done. Tie him up, keep him in your garage, etc. Or drive him to the humane society a county or two over so somone who really cares about owning a dog can have him. A dog running through once or twice you have to cut the owner some slack but continually, no way. Possession in 9/10ths of the law as the popular saying goes if the owner doesn't care enough to keep tabs on their dog.

Private property is private property when it comes to land. People nor dogs should be allowed to trespass and that is exactly what they are doing by ruining your hunt. The people are indirectly trespassing by allowing their dogs on your property. I'd like to see that taken up in court what with all these frivilous lawsuits we hear of. Your neighbor wouldn't hunt your land without your permission. Why should his dog?