Fireline question

[Dynasty]

I just picked some of this up in 14 lb. (6 lb. dia.) colored black. Anyway the question is do you guys tie directly to the fireline or use a mono leader? I will probably use it fishing plastics for bass and was a little worried about the visability.

[Mark Christianson]

Tie it direct.
No Ifs, Ands or Buts.

[Fisher Dave]

Tie direct unless the fish are excessively finicky, or the water is very clear.

I always use a mono leader if I'm fishing live bait rigs or under a float... more often then not, it does make a difference on most species of fish.

Your talking bass.. most the time it wouldnt matter if you were using red 12 guage wire.

[Guest]

FuzzyLine??????????

What the heck are you using that for?????????

IMHO; That is the worst braid line made. Terrible luck with it from day one.

It gets fuzzy
It fades
no abbrasion resistance
Etc, etc, etc........

I've been using Spider Wire for a long time. It is a bit more $$$, but I will use the same line for many years.

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[Long Gray Line]

And I've lost a couple of pretty expensive musky baits when the SpiderWore broke right at the rod tip from fraying. Although the FireLine looks frayed, I've never had it pop. There's nothing wrong with either line but they both have applications they're better for. I use FireLine on my trolling reels because of the thin diameter. SpiderWire works great for bass in heavy weeds and I have it on a baitcaster for plastics in the heavy stuff. I won't use it any more on my musky reels though. They've all been changed to Whiplash.

[fish4ed]

I agree that the different braids work better for different applications. As far as tying, I'll tie Fireline directly to the hook/lure when using jigheads, and Texas rigging for bass. Bait rigs with sliding sinkers, I'll use monofilament for the snells. Whether or not I use a mono leader when slip bobber fishing depends on species, water clarity, mood of the fish, etc. I also use Fireline when trolling cranks with my linecounter reel. The smaller diameter of the 14lb Fireline lets me get deeper than 10lb mono without letting out more line.

[shortfatguy]

the only problem with fire line is if you get snagged and cant pull the hook straight you have to either cut it of where the line hits the water or wrap the line around something on the boat and fire up the moter to break off. I once pulled a 16" truck tire out of the water and about 5' over the rail of the dock with 14 pound test fire line!oh yeah one more thing to watch out for, if your drag is set to tight your rod will break before the line does!!! and dont forget to tape the knot to the spool before putting the line on or the whole spool of line will spin on the spool and you wont be able to reel fish in!!

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[This message has been edited by shortfatguy (edited 05-03-2004).]

[walleyewacker]

If you are working for bass I do both. Tie directly to a jig or similar, but I generally use a mono leader with a carolina rig. As far as trolling goes I usually do tie a mono leader especially in clear water, it may not make a huge difference but its just one of those things. Fireline does fray but doesnt loose strength. Power pro does not fray as bad.

[Northlander]

If you dont like Fireline try Power Pro. Holds it roundness and doesnt frey as easy. Also comes in more sizes I use.
Ice fishing I use a mono shocker.

[huskiesplayer15]

another line you may want to try, is iron silk thats stuff is as strong and abrasion resistant line in my opinion, but what is that worth? I like the hi vis line when working flukes and jerk shads and skipping docks with weightless lures to see line movements,.
Best Fishes
Chris

[Dynasty]

Hey thanks for all the feedback. Im trying fireline while my dad tries power pro. We've heard good about both so this way we can compare them.

Today on the St. Croix I found this stuff is tuff. I got a snag while trolling a lindy rig, I tightend my drag to free/break off my lindy rig. Didnt break the line just straightend out the hook. I also hauled in a pretty big log I snagged into.

[sami0115]

NOTHING compares to Power Pro!!

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[Dennis Steele]

I tie directly to the line.
I haven't noticed fish shying away from it in most situations.In clear water if your pulling lindy's or spinner rigs for eyes you might want to tie up your lindy's with mono.
One thing I have found with superlines is that the fused lines work much better for casting.They have a little larger diameter than the braids but have some "body" to the line which really helps with casting.Fireline is about the best I have tried so far.It gets a little white and fuzzy after some use but still has strenght.If the fray gets too bad just cut some off.You should be retying regularly anyway.
The braids work best for verticle jigging and trolling.Thinest diameters with great sentivity.They cut through water nicely and you can get away with using less weight.That can be a key when fishing these kinds of presentations.Power Pro is a favorite of mine for these applications.

[Lip RIPPER!]

How many of you tie a mono backing on the reel before putting on the fireline for jigging, live bait rigging, etc...? I know lots of people who put it on their reels for trolling crankbaits.

[fishlips]

Lip ripper - there are some people that put a mono backer on the reel just to save on the amount of expensive line they need to fill the reel.
I prefer to save $$ by doing the following:
After the fireline starts to fray and loose color, I tie one end to something and walk backwards taking all the line off the spool. don't try this on a windy day!!
Then go back to the start and use that as your spool start/backing. I've been using my Fireline for 4 years now. Great for trolling cranks - just drop the drag back a little so you don't rip the lips off the fish and use a med/soft tip rod.

[fishlips]

Lip ripper - there are some people that put a mono backer on the reel just to save on the amount of expensive line they need to fill the reel.
I prefer to save $$ by doing the following:
After the fireline starts to fray and loose color, I tie one end to something and walk backwards taking all the line off the spool. don't try this on a windy day!!
Then go back to the start and use that as your spool start/backing. I've been using my Fireline for 4 years now. Great for trolling cranks - just drop the drag back a little so you don't rip the lips off the fish and use a med/soft tip rod.

[EBass]

You gotta put some mono backing on before the braided lines. Otherwise the whole spool will slip, and I learned the hard way that it indeed happens.

I won't use Fireline anymore. Power Pro is the braid for me.

I do sometimes put a mono leader on when the water clairity is clear or the fish are spooky. Could be a confidence thing!

[Corey Bechtold]

Just a little tip, when your fireline starts to look gray instead of smoke, take it off and reverse it. This will give you twice as much use. Fireline has almost NO memory. Casting is easier and will not bunch like mono. I used power pro a few times and went back to fireline. Casting distance was less with power pro and you could listen to it going through the guides. Don't give up on fireline, more fish is worth a little more $

[Thomas]

at first i used fireline. tried powerpro this year for crappies and so far - i prefere powerpro. i used powerpro for casting last year and liked it better than fireline or mono. Walleyes? i need to test.

[Northlander]

Either use mono backing or put some tape or a wide rubber band on your spool. I use a mono shocker for ice fishing and a mono leader for live bait rigging.

[LocalGuide]

I do two things when I use fireline/power pro. On my baitcasters I use a mono backing for about 50 yards or so. Or if you want just wrap some tommy tape on the spool and tie the line on and then tape the line too.
Either/or works, I would go w/out some kind of backing, unless there is a slot on your spinning reel to tie directly (my abu spinning reel has that).

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[psegriz]

These guys give alot of good advice so I don't have to say anything but DO SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE LINE DON'T SLIP ON SPOOL.

GRIZ

[Cliff Wagenbach]

Tie directly to the line!
Use a mono leader for rigs.
I have used Fireline since it first came out and love it. I started using some Power Pro last year and have been leaning toward changing to it on all of my rods.
Cliff

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