MNice Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 early 90's mariner 15HP. As you can see, when there is a hydro foil attached, and you push your boat into a very strong woodworking bench, bad things can happen. I'm not sure of the material, could be cast aluminum, or perhaps "potmetal". and ideas on how to fix, or am I out a lower unit. [img:left] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatfixer Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Yikes! Its aluminum and it can be welded. Looks like its not going to be easy though. You need to have it fixed. The primary purpose of the Anti-Ventilation plate is to prevent air from being sucked down into the prop. Without it its likely to ventilate, lose bite and over-rev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Most of the machine shops that do tig welding should be able to handle that but it wont be real cheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solbes Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 MnNice, Uh-oh. Looks like you need to post your story along with the rest of us in the "Boat Mishaps/Problem Stories" thread I agree with others it will not require a L/U replacement, but it will be some spendy welding time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine_man Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Replacing the lower unit is something I'd look into, just for a cost comparison - you could get a used lower unit for X dollars... vs welding for Y dollars.. you'd have to consider the risk of the used lower unit having bad / worn out components and may need to swap them with what you have.. but something to keep in mind.marine_man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonicrunch Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Replacing the lower unit is something I'd look into, just for a cost comparison - you could get a used lower unit for X dollars... vs welding for Y dollars.. you'd have to consider the risk of the used lower unit having bad / worn out components and may need to swap them with what you have.. but something to keep in mind.marine_man good point. Either way, you have a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken_line Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 if you were anywhere close to cottonwood. i could weld it for you for free. alumunum welding is actually pretty easy if you have the right equipment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Wettschreck Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 While this may look and seem bad, it really isn't the end of the world. If it were me, I'd remove the lower unit and ship it off to Jay Soderbloom.You can get his info here Prop, skeg, and these types of repairs are right up their alley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no bait nate Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 woodworking bench? you have a cabinet shop? we should/could talk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpenter Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 what about a hydrofoil? some of those are really large. but you need enough to fasten it too. I don't know if that would work or if it's a stupid idea. maybe have brokenline fix it the best he can and then the hydrofoil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNice Posted May 8, 2010 Author Share Posted May 8, 2010 Nate, no cabinet shop here, just a bench in my garage/shop. We could talk anytime though, I see we're almost neighbors!Broken line, what a king & generous offer, thank you!! I know a few people around here with a mig, used to work at MVE in NP years ago. Like anything, its not what you know, its who you know!I'll make some calls and get it this week.Thanks all for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakeb Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 mig? i think that this is a tig job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCKAHOLIC Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 welding aluminum can be done with a mig welder if its set up for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey lee Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 I agree with Boilerguy, sent it to Jay as he does great work and I am sure it will come back like new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Wettschreck Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Just to re-emphasise........I wouldn't even be thinking about this for very long. I'd be shipping this off to Jay in a second.The work he has done for me is incredible. I fish the prairie potholes that are far from deep. Prop, skeg, and lower unit damage will happen. Sucks, but it happens. Jay does awesome work for a darn good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNice Posted May 9, 2010 Author Share Posted May 9, 2010 oops!! Ya, they have both, but I did mean to say TIG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no bait nate Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 thought it was worth a shot, i'm looking to talk to a guy with a finishing shop to contract for a new venture of mine. maybe hit the lake sometime though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken_line Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 mig is for getting the job done fast with out worring about long term strength.tig is takes forever but will be stronger than the surrounding aluminum.when you get it welded dont let whoever welds it to paint it. use the motor a bit then look for cracking if it doesnt crack after a few runs paint er up! alumium even if it has a microsopic crack the engine vibration will quickly make it larger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNice Posted May 12, 2010 Author Share Posted May 12, 2010 It's getting done tonight, an old co-worker has a nice welding shop set up at his house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Wettschreck Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Sweet!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTro Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I had the same thing happen with my smaller motor...well an underwater log took mine out, but the end result looked almost the same.I just bolted on a Hydrofoil. 3 screws holds it on pretty good. Plus it looks like there was one on there already. Can't you just put a new one on?Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNice Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 All fixed, $30. Now just clean up a little and paint. Thanks to all. I may add a foil again, but I didn't think it made much of a performance difference anyway. [img:left] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonicrunch Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 looks awesome.forget the foil, they take away from top speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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