Deer down!

[Deitz Dittrich]

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[Musky Buck]

70 in a single field, that would be more deer then in the 5 sections I hunt in! Maybe your gang should wax some does out of the herd. I hunt the same way, mature buck or forget it, just think how lucky other hunters are that many hunt the way we do or we'd have been waxing them in the 5 deer possible zones. I've never taken a fawn and 3 does and none since 1986. Just curious how many of the 70 deer were in the field before shooting light expired ? Are they as nocturnal in your area as mine? sounds like you have many more deer to pursue then I.

[Archerysniper]

Congrats on the deer you went farther and spent more time looking for this deer than most ever will wich is sad to say. You can hit them below the spine and above the lungs and kill them the main arteries run along the bottom of the spine could have nicked one but most likely caught the very top of one lung.

Now were are the pic's

[propster]

Was he buried under the snow, which may have insulated him somewhat from the cold air? Otherwise I would hazard a guess that he didn't die Tuesday night if he wasn't frozen today.

[vister]

congrats on the kill and the find, however the dead zone is all make believe FYI! any pics?

[propster]

Vister, by saying the dead zone doesn't exist, I'm not sure if you meant the lungs actually touch the spine all the way along their length, and therefore a shot below the spine will always puncture the lungs and be fatal, or if you meant there were other vitals in this area that would always mean a fatal shot if hit below the spine and above the lungs, but there have been plenty of instances where deer shot here have survived. And I'm not saying these are perfect examples, but check this link. Interesting pictures.

http://trailcameras.net/hunting-blog/bow-hunting-shot-placement.php

[mabr]

The deer has been found! 19.5 inside, 21.5 outside spread, 10 pts. Thanks for all the input on this. The deer was 50 yds away from where last blood was found, and about 300 yds from where I shot it. It was hit just above the lungs, and under the spine. Not a great shot, but still got him. No yotes, either. The deer was still warm enough for gutting? Believe it or not, but it was still not frozen solid since Tuesday night. Anyway, I can finally sleep!

WTG Threeway. Weve all been there one time or another. Glad you got him. Now we wanna see pics

[vister]

Vister, by saying the dead zone doesn't exist, I'm not sure if you meant the lungs actually touch the spine all the way along their length, and therefore a shot below the spine will always puncture the lungs and be fatal, or if you meant there were other vitals in this area that would always mean a fatal shot if hit below the spine and above the lungs, but there have been plenty of instances where deer shot here have survived. And I'm not saying these are perfect examples, but check this link. Interesting pictures.

http://trailcameras.net/hunting-blog/bow-hunting-shot-placement.php

by looking at those pics, the shot was back. i feel it is impossible to not hit a vital organ, lung for instance, if the shot is placed above the vitals. any arrow not hitting a vital organ is essentially in a dead zone. i feel that if you hit above the lungs, you will still clip a lung, or hit the spine. the "dead zone" to which people people refer to is an apparent 4 inch gap above the lungs. well, there really is no gap up there. even deer hit high, just below the spine, will usually have a lung that gets clipped. its just so high up that any bleeding done is usually internally. so a blood trail from a deer hit high isnt going to be very strong. with that said, i dont believe there is a dead zone above the lungs.

with that said, the fella that shot the buck that he mentioned was hit high, in the "dead zone", would never have recovered that deer if in fact a lung wasn't hit, or any other organ or blood vessel. that is also why they were finding very minimal blood, because of the high hit. in time the animal expired, just like i would if someone gouged a corner of my lung

[Neighbor_guy]

I agree with Vister. There is no such thing as the "dead zone"...

If you puncture the lung cavity, either threw the ribs, or the diaphram, the deer will likely die. If the deer can not inhale, they can not survive. Puncture the lung cavity, even without hitting the lung itself can result in death.

Some deer will survive a punctured lung. Most will die, mabe not by the time you give up on them and declare it a "survivable hit" in the "dead zone", but they will die.

But that is another topic.

Good job on getting your deer. Sounds like a nice one. Did you get any picts?

[kc0myy]

ok guys I got on here alittle late. but I shot my 2nd deer ever last sunday am. the doe was 20 yards away i was using TC shockwave sabots 250gr. after I shot her I got down right away and looked for blood. what I found was chucks of lung meat on the groud. right where i shot her then I found big pools of blood everwhere like someone was dragging a paint can (only a lite dusting of snow on the ground). there she laid 100 yards from where I shot her. I have heard both sides of the storie where you fine no blood to have paint cans of blood on the ground. I missed a buck the 1st weekend on muzzle loading this year. I waited 20 mins or so and looked for blood. my friend Ron and I looked for blood and hair knowing the stories of find no blood or very little blood(with using muzzle loaders). so we tracked him for 200+ yards. and didnt find anything. the one sign right away that I knew I mabyed missed him was. after I shot he ran stopped and ran another way. and most of the time deer will run and not change 90 degrees and run another way. so I know I had a good clean miss on him thank god.

[96trigger]

There are way too many variables with entrance and exit wound location to try and pinpoint why some bleed and some don't. A lot depends on your vantage point, and where you hit the deer, and that has NEVER been the same for me on any deer.