DTro Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I learned the hard way last night what happens when you mix -10 degrees and a little moisture in your fuel. My sled spent the night on the lake. I will now carry a can of starting fluid and heat with me at all times. Do you guys usually put a bottle of heat in every tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgoose Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Whenever the weather gets below 10 degrees I run isopropel (sp) in with my gas. I lurned the hard way when my wife burned up a motor one cold weekend. I always have it with me. About a half a container per tank will do it. I think it is just as important to have that with you on a trip as a extra jug of oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxMN Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 If I mix seafoam in with each tank anyway, would I still need the iso? I just got into the habit of always seafoam with all my small engine/2 cycle gas right at the pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SledNeck Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I use seafoam on my first tank of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskieJunkie Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I run seafoam in every tank unless I'm on a snowmobiling trip where we're riding all day every day (the same goes for my boat).When it's really cold I run Heet (the red bottle).Thanks for the reminder DTRO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Cowboy Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 What the-- isnt heet and isopropel alcohol? the same stuff in ethanol that causes all kinds of problems in 2 cycles? I'm confused, i've had more than one mechanic tell me that ethonal will screw up these engines faster than anything. I try only to run the non-oxygenated gas to keep that [PoorWordUsage] out of the engine. I have had water in gas make them run like [PoorWordUsage] but would of thought alcohol in the tank would lean them out and burn them up before it would help them run better I am very curious of how water in the gas could blow up a sled? I have had one burn down from a clogged jet in dirty carbs that leaned it out but water?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surface Tension Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 If your using regular unleaded there is ethanol in the gas already. That will mix with water. BUT! During summer storage you'll have heating and cooling periods from day and night temps. Each time that happens your getting condensation inside the tank. How Is That? Snowmobile gas tanks are vented. There is always a new supple of air getting into that tank, with it the moister in that air. It is possible to get some much moister during that storage period that the 15% of ethanol in that gas is not enough to absorb all that water. By adding more ethanol you'll absorb that water. BUT!Your now exceeding that % of ethanol you can safely run. 15% is not a big deal because just about all sleds are jetted 1 or 2 over anyway and can account for that 15 % ethanol. Darren you need to schedule a long ride to get ride of that old gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparcebag Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 What the-- isnt heet and isopropel alcohol? the same stuff in ethanol that causes all kinds of problems in 2 cycles? I'm confused, i've had more than one mechanic tell me that ethonal will screw up these engines faster than anything. I try only to run the non-oxygenated gas to keep that [PoorWordUsage] out of the engine. I have had water in gas make them run like [PoorWordUsage] but would of thought alcohol in the tank would lean them out and burn them up before it would help them run better I am very curious of how water in the gas could blow up a sled? I have had one burn down from a clogged jet in dirty carbs that leaned it out but water?? Ethanol is ethyl alcohol-drinkable if it didn't have additives-Moonshine,Isopropyl alcohol is a compound & poison,But it absorbs and combindes with water letting it burn off easier combining with the gas also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTro Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 Darren you need to schedule a long ride to get ride of that old gas. Ok, you twisted my arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseymcq Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 It was already mentioned but running some SeaFoam through your sled might be a good idea. On the can it states that it works to dry fuel and works as a de-icer among others. I was always told not to run any more alcohol through a sled than what was already in the gas and if possible run premium to avoid alcohol in the sled all together. I was also told it is more important to avoid it as the temps get colder because the motor will run leaner unless the sled is re-jetted. This may be less applicable to newer sleds especially sleds that are fuel injected becasue they adjust the mixture accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogtosser Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 last night mine was idoling like [PoorWordUsage] and kept quitting and of course then the rope broke on the recoil so i had to drive on the lake to go get it, at least there was good ice. now i need to find a place to fix my recoil, anyone have any suggestions around st cloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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