mnhunter79 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Ok, just shot my new bow today. Parker frontier 2-plus. set at 63 lbs, have two string leeches on, and dampners on the limbs. Stabilizer is a decent doinker brand, and i even have the STS string suppressor. My arrows weigh roughly 338 grains. But the bow is still loud when fired. Please don't tell me i bought a loud bow. any one have any suggestions or fixes, to quiet down a loud bow? any ideas will be greatly appreciated. THANKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deitz Dittrich Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Can you tell where the noise is coming from? It sounds like you have sound control correct, and cant think of anything else to add that would make it more quiet. Your arrow is a tad light at just over 5 grains per pound, a heavier arrow would be quieter. I would check to be sure its not noise coming from your rest or sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Yep- DD said everything I was thinking when I read your post- check to be sure nothing is loose. Have somebody listen really close when you shoot- see if they can find where the noise is coming from. You're shooting a pretty light arrow- another hundred or so grains would help. After that, not much left to do.Another way to check to see if it's an accessory problem is to remove them one at a time and shoot. If you remove one and the noise goes away- tadaa! You found your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deitz Dittrich Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Got to thinking, make sure its not a cracked limb or something. you said you got it used.. really give it a good look over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhunter79 Posted April 21, 2008 Author Share Posted April 21, 2008 I bought it new at scheels. all the bolts and all are tight. and i shot one of my older arrows which is heavier, still loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deitz Dittrich Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Im still guess its the sight... try taking the sight off and shooting it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnhuntnboy Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Even tho you bought it new, look it over and make sure there are no cracks on the limbs or anywhere else. Maybe there is a defect that you are not seeing. Then if you cant figure out the noise go back to where you bought it and see if they can figure it out for you and maybe replace it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonBo Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Loud compared to what? The new Matthews or Hoyts? Not many bows on the market will be as quiet as these. My guess is still the light arrow. How heavy was your older arrow you shot? I would think you will need to shoot an arrow at least 400-450 grains to quiet the bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghotierman Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Loud in what way, also... is it a vibration? a buzz? or a 'thwack'...I would agree with some of the other observations regarding the arrow weight. Inspect the limbs and limb pockets. The cable guard/slide could also be the culprit. as mentioned, have a buddy listen for where the sound seems to be coming from. Best if you could do it right there at Scheels, or a pro shop and they could tweek it right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhunter79 Posted April 21, 2008 Author Share Posted April 21, 2008 Its a thwack sound. did shoot an arrow that was 40 grains heavier, but it was still loud. bow is at a pro shop now for them to figure out. tried shooting it with the stabilizer and the sts off but they do make it quieter, so thats out. How would the cable guard/slide make that much noise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30 inch eyes Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 if you are using a drop away rest it could be slapping the shelf on the riser. if so put some mole skin on the shelf. you are not shooting one of the quietest bows out there so that is some of the issue(sorry) i feel your arrows are heavy enough but pushing the limit for the weight you are shooting. heavier arrows will slighly quiet it down but not a great amount. if nothing else try reducing the draw weight and see if that helps a little. good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerstroke Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 WHe I think of a thwack, I'm thinking the rest, maybe arrow contact, slapping the armguard...Are you practicing inside or outside? Sometimes noise it perceived as loud and its really not that loud. Even worn out string leeches can make a snapping sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhunter79 Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 Ya iv'e heard that this bow is not the quietest, but this one is bad. Twin rivers in new ulm did find that the bottom cam is dented, and when he tapped on both cams the top cam is solid but the bottom cam has a vibration/rattle to it when tapped on with fingers, not good. As far as the rest goes, it's a rip cord, he raised it up so it wasn't even hitting the shelf. So hopefully with a new cam and cable rod dampner (parker recommended) things will be quieter. hopefully. Takin it back to scheels to see what they can do tommorrow.Thanks much for all the ideas, keep em' coming if anyone can think of anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishGUY Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I couple things to try would be to ajust the STS, some bows have a different sweet spot. My new bow is set up with a very small gap (.5mm), my old bow worked best with a little larger gap(2mm). I have also seen bows, with two sets of dampners on the limb, one set close to the riser and one set close to the cams. Let us know what you figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhunter79 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 Do you guys think adding extra limb savers, string leeches to the cables, and the cable rod dampner will help with the noise? I already have limb savers on the limbs, but will an extra set of em' help? Or just a waste of money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Aldahl Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Are you getting the cam fixed? If you are you might be better off just waiting to see if that takes care of the noise issue. You might be pleasantly surprised when you get it back. After you get it back if it is still noisy added more string leaches might help but it will also have a little effect on your overall speed. Parker recommended a cable dampener, might want to get one and see if that helps as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhunter79 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 Ya scheels ordered a new cam for me last week (warranty ) hopefully it will come in today or tommorrow so i can get my bow back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deitz Dittrich Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I wouldnt shoot it any more till the cam is replaced... Sounds scary.. Hope it helps your noise issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhunter79 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 Its at scheels. so i cant shoot it. prob safer that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Aldahl Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Shoot it a few times when you pick it up at scheels and see if it is any quieter when the cam is fixed. If it makes you feel any better maybe they will let you shoot the same model bow to see if there is any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhunter79 Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 Ya i should. hopefully they still have it. They only had one left as of sun. morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Aldahl Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I can't remember the guys name that helped me get a different cam on my bow but he was pretty helpful. I am sure if you ask about the noise they maybe would be able to suggest something, or help find out what is causing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonBo Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Ask them if you can try a heavier arrow. I still think you will be surprised how much that will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhunter79 Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 I don't know. Every arrow selection chart showed the arrows i bought will work. and i called 2 pro shops and they both said the same arrows will be fine. I did shoot an arrow that was 40 grains heavier and it did not make one bit of difference. When i get it back, im goin to a pro shop to have them help me with it (if needed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhunter79 Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 If the timming on the cams is off, will that make a bow loud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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