Bass Boat discrimination

[senkoskipper]

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People can get a fancy boat all they want... but it's not the boat that catches the fish.

If anything, I get a kick out of someone who comes roaring up in their $30k+ bass boat and can't catch squat while they watch us haul in fish after fish. Then they get frustrated and leave... to which I then laugh.

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Whats nice about a nice fast bass boat is you can get to your spots first. When im on my friends boat, when we see someone heading towards out spot, we just gun it, cut them off and start fishing. Its great seeing their faces seeing us get there first and they got to go find another spot.

[st.crioxfishin]

Senko,

Is this sarcasm?

[dave12341234]

word up^^^^^^^^

[dave12341234]

i love when bass fisherman fish over a spot and not catch anything, then i go over it and start hammerin the fish.

[blakjack23]

Its always nice seeing someone do something stupid and pay for it. Two years ago while fishing one of my league events I was one of the first to take off from the launch (I wasn't doing so hot up until this point). So me and my 90 horse head for a spot which you have to go through a shallow channel to get to. I'm almost to the channel when I see one of the other league members catching up to me with his 200 horse. I keep heading my way and luckily get to the channel before he can cut me off. Seeing as I made it in between the buoys first he decides to try and go around the buoys to get in front of me. Bad mistake! Smacks his boat and motor up and the rig is outta commission for the rest of the season.

[Troublehook]

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People can get a fancy boat all they want... but it's not the boat that catches the fish.

If anything, I get a kick out of someone who comes roaring up in their $30k+ bass boat and can't catch squat while they watch us haul in fish after fish. Then they get frustrated and leave... to which I then laugh.

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Whats nice about a nice fast bass boat is you can get to your spots first. When im on my friends boat, when we see someone heading towards out spot, we just gun it, cut them off and start fishing. Its great seeing their faces seeing us get there first and they got to go find another spot.

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I hope your joking, because this is exactly what everyone is complaining about. If not, this is probably the wrong place to post your comment , and that is very rude to do by the way.

[james_walleye]

Interesting topic. I'm a walleye guy all the way and i've seen the same thing in the walleye world. I think with alot of the $40,000 rangers and lunds come a huge ego along with it. I have fished a couple tourneys in the past year on Pool 4, Mille Lacs, and Winnie. In all 3 we were in at least one of the 3 smallest boats in each tourney. First thing i've realized is that these guys have the $40,000 rigs simply because they choose too spend that much moola on them, its not necessarily because they can catch fish. And second, i dont know who gives some of these guys sponsorships. And why they give them too whom they are given because its not because they can catch fish. I think its rather funny in these circuit events i've fished too see many of these guys get skunked time and time again. And of course this isnt all the guys, but alot more than you would think. And its really bad you when are walking down the docks and walk by some of these guys and say "hey hows it going" and they literally look past you and walk on by without a notice. I mean come on, get over yourself. I think the guys in the bass boats who are pulling these stunts just have the same big ego as the guys im referring too. In their mind for some reason they are better than you because they have the bigger boat.

[senkoskipper]

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People can get a fancy boat all they want... but it's not the boat that catches the fish.

If anything, I get a kick out of someone who comes roaring up in their $30k+ bass boat and can't catch squat while they watch us haul in fish after fish. Then they get frustrated and leave... to which I then laugh.

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Whats nice about a nice fast bass boat is you can get to your spots first. When im on my friends boat, when we see someone heading towards out spot, we just gun it, cut them off and start fishing. Its great seeing their faces seeing us get there first and they got to go find another spot.

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I hope your joking, because this is exactly what everyone is complaining about. If not, this is probably the wrong place to post your comment , and that is very rude to do by the way.

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Well theres more to it than that. For example when we launch there are a few people launching ahead of us. On certain lakes you know which spot the guy is going simply by the direction. We have a faster boat so we just get there a few minutes ahead of time. Its not like we cut them off right before they get there. because we have a faster boat we are there several minutes b4 them.

[TNFL]

I used to thump my chest about how many fish I could catch with my lund and a 25 horse tiller. But man, am I glad I upgraded to a used Crestliner with a 90 horse. It just makes fishing that much more enjoyable, and a little easier. I am not knocking the little boats. But, be honest little boat guys if you could upgrade, you would.

The main thing is treat everyone as you would like to be treated!

[bronzeback01]

Most sponsorships aren't given because a guy wins every tournament he fishes. Sponsors want people who will put time into their product and who can represent it, wheather it's by doing seminars, sports shows, or just by being seen on the tournament trails. A lot of guys do just buy big boats to have big boats, but there are just as many of them who are great fisherman and need a boat like that to compete. And as far as true sponsor boats go (just because it has some stickers on it doesn't mean they're sponsored) most guys with a fair number of sponsors really can fish, just because they didn't do well in the tournament you were fishing doesn't mean they wouldn't spank you on the next lake. These guys do this every week they're good no matter what you want to think.

All of us who are active on most of the bass trails and tours are well aware of the guys who are just plain jerks. Guys that don't have the time of day to say hi to you or the guys that follow "local" pros around so they can find their spots and go there first when they get an early draw. They're in every sport. There is no difference between fisherman or anyone else in any sport. Most of the guys are great guys who have all the time in the world to chat, but there is always a few that just don't quite get it. Unfortunately they are usually pretty good sticks.

As far as Senkoskippers posts, I completely understand what he is saying. I don't think he is the guy cutting you off right before a spot or being stupid and dangerous. When you are in a tournament with 200 boats speed is always an advantage. I can name tournaments where we were one boat ahead of the guy heading to the same spot we were and because of his extra 25HP he beat us there and we didn't make the cut because he got that one good fish that we would've if we were there first. I have ridden in almost every make and model of bass boat as well as most brands of walleye boats. And if you want to try to tell me that your Lund Explorer ( I'm not targeting Explorers, I actually really like them for a multi purpose boat. I am just using them as a general example) Is just as good as a 210 Champion or a Ranger 520, for bass fishing, you're full of it. It's like a Cavalier compared to a Escalade, they will both do the job, but the Escalade is going to do it better and more compfortably. Do I think you will catch more fish out of a Z21 with a 250HPDI than you would out of an 14' aluminum boat? Absolutely not. In fact most of the pros I know and fish with spend a majority of their time fishing from tin boats, they save their big rigs for the tourneys.

Now if you think you're goning to take that 14' to a major tournament and not eat rooster tails for lunch, you're nuts.

Now I'm not saying everyone needs to go out and spend 40G's on that glass rocket. But if you're going to fish a lot of tourneys, you might want to consider it. I guess I just laugh at a lot of guys on the trail who are getting new rigs every year who cant catch squat. But if that's what they want to spend their money on, more power to em'. It's just one more guy I don't have to try too hard to beat.

What it comes down to is if you want to buy the expensive rig, buy it. If you don't, then don't. But c'mon guys I'm hearing more negative comments about bass boats then possitive. Most guys are very polite and respectfull. Don't judge everyone because of a few (Contact Us Please). And don't be so jealous. You know if you could afford it you would be driving the same boat as the guy you are trashing.

[james_walleye]

Like i said im not including all of the sponsored guys in what im saying. But i've looked back at the results of the tourneys in this circuit and looked at how a few of these guys have finished year after year, tourney after tourney, and some of them are lucky just too way a fish in any tourney. Like i said im just curious how they get there sponsorships. They are decked out in all the clothing. I've also met some really nice guys, great guys. Its just offensive that some people can snubb like they do just because im wearing a normal sweatshirt and not a sponsored shirt. I gotta say that it did feel good too finish high in 2 of the 3 tourneys and finish ahead of 90% of those guys in our "little" boat.

[Cabela10]

Maybe they are good at selling product. It's possible that they can't fish a lick but they can dominate and sell product for a particular company. I don't think it matters if you finish last in every single event as long as you are making up for it by bringing money into the companies that are sponsoring you.

[bronzeback01]

Most of the really good pros I know have no real sponsors at all. They don't have time to put into sponsors, they just want to fish. Then the opposite goes for most of the guys I know with sponsors. They had the time, just weren't that good of fisherman. Not in every case but deffinately a lot of them.

[Blake]

I think the jerks we are all referring to are jerks where ever they go....with a boat or not....and would be willing to bet they have very small brains!!! Thats their way of making themselves feel better....JMO

[DaveC]

I started bass fishing in a friends canoe, then bought a belly boat because my partner could not fish as much as I wanted, then I bought an 18'with a 75 horse tiller, I now have a medium grade fiber glass bass boat. All of these boats are tools in the progression of your pursuit of bass. When your fishing a main lake with 40mph winds a little tin boat just will not cut it. I still miss the 18' tiller at times because of roomy it was. But lets face it, nothing feels better than going across Lake Pepin with 30 mph winds, boat waves and knowing your going to get where you want and when.

[DitchPickle13]

LipRipper...I wasn't cited, but checked for fishing bass out of season. I was on a small metro lake and a CO actually launched his boat and came out to ask me what I was fishing for; he said he was responding to a phone call from a lake resident.

I was using a flu-flu and a waxworm on an ultralight with a bobber.

[macgruber]

i've had the opposite thing happen on minnetonka..... we're fishing a very nice productive shoreline on minntonka in a ranger bass boat..... and another one pulls in behind us....

we were catching one here and there, though not many..... they started two docks behind and and followed us, catching a couple 2-4 lb. bass at nearly every dock they hit..... the jerks!

[federline]

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I fish in my dads 12' Starcraft with a 5.5

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Shiner, 12' alumacraft with 6HP here. And like others here, I get perverse enjoyment out of catching more fish than guys with better boats while I'm right next to them.

I get jeers, sneers, and stares all the time. The big Strikemaster sticker on the side further confuses onlookers, they don't know whether to strike up the band or run the other way.

I would upgrade if I could, but I put my money everywhere else before I got re-hooked on fishing in adulthood... I would guess the next time I could get a better boat will be when we downsize our house and/or move out of state. Maybe we'll be back on the Atlantic and I could go find a nice Dusky 25' walkaround to head offshore with...

I guess I don't really have a use for a bass boat. A big-water walleye boat, maybe. But all you inlanders can keep 'em if I can have my offshore rig. $35,000 will buy many weekends of guided trips in the northland! And that's not counting the interest!

Until I have my own bigger hole in the water, putt-putt-putt I will go...

[eronningen]

What a junky post this has turned into. You guys with the 12-16 foot boats, go ahead and pound your chests. Big deal if you caught a couple fish within eye sight of someone with a more expensive boat. Maybe it was there first time on your lake. Maybe not. If you are such great anglers and have it all figured out with your smaller boats you ought to jump in more tournaments and take all these pro's money. I would if I were you. I hope the water isn't rough though. I hope you don'e need a decent livewell to check in with before blast off, I hope your fish aren't more than a mile from the take off point, and I hope you can do well on pressured waters competing against many others. I know, you don't care, but don't sit there and think you are high and mighty because you only have a $1000 in your rig compared to a guy that you saw for 10 minutes fishing within eye sight and he didn't load the boat in a 30K rig. Get real.

I know there is plenty of jerks. I have a bass rig. I, personally am not a jerk and that may be why I take so much offense to this. some of the biggest jerks I have met on the water have been guys in the little boats. What do ytou think of that. Oh ya, and one time a guy in a stupid little 14' boat came by me and didn't catch a thing while I was reeling them in. What an (Contact Us Please) he was. I just laughed.

You know, lay off. To each his own. Quit telling your littles stories of this one time when..........Becasue for each one of them, I have one to.

To comment on the stereotyoing of the pros.....Well, fisrt off, many of them are patch pirates. They just buy the shirts and stickers and whatever, think they are cool. But some are legit and are sponsored. So what, more power to them....They do well at some and not well at others. Everyone has there waters they are good on. Maybe its a points race for a championship somewhere. You can't catch themn all of the time. Also remember these pros you see locally are just that, local/regional pros. They go to work just like you and me most of the week, they were just smart enough to figure out a way to get paid for there hobby or at least enough to off set the cost. So they have there 40k rig and don't catch any fish by you in your 12' rig but they are the ones laughing on the way home cause it cost you more mone to fish your home lake than it did them to fish 150 miles from home.

[gregh]

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What a junky post this has turned into. You guys with the 12-16 foot boats, go ahead and pound your chests. Big deal if you caught a couple fish within eye sight of someone with a more expensive boat. Maybe it was there first time on your lake. Maybe not. If you are such great anglers and have it all figured out with your smaller boats you ought to jump in more tournaments and take all these pro's money. I would if I were you. I hope the water isn't rough though. I hope you don'e need a decent livewell to check in with before blast off, I hope your fish aren't more than a mile from the take off point, and I hope you can do well on pressured waters competing against many others. I know, you don't care, but don't sit there and think you are high and mighty because you only have a $1000 in your rig compared to a guy that you saw for 10 minutes fishing within eye sight and he didn't load the boat in a 30K rig. Get real.

I know there is plenty of jerks. I have a bass rig. I, personally am not a jerk and that may be why I take so much offense to this. some of the biggest jerks I have met on the water have been guys in the little boats. What do ytou think of that. Oh ya, and one time a guy in a stupid little 14' boat came by me and didn't catch a thing while I was reeling them in. What an (Contact Us Please) he was. I just laughed.

You know, lay off. To each his own. Quit telling your littles stories of this one time when..........Becasue for each one of them, I have one to.

To comment on the stereotyoing of the pros.....Well, fisrt off, many of them are patch pirates. They just buy the shirts and stickers and whatever, think they are cool. But some are legit and are sponsored. So what, more power to them....They do well at some and not well at others. Everyone has there waters they are good on. Maybe its a points race for a championship somewhere. You can't catch themn all of the time. Also remember these pros you see locally are just that, local/regional pros. They go to work just like you and me most of the week, they were just smart enough to figure out a way to get paid for there hobby or at least enough to off set the cost. So they have there 40k rig and don't catch any fish by you in your 12' rig but they are the ones laughing on the way home cause it cost you more mone to fish your home lake than it did them to fish 150 miles from home.

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[matthothand]

Can't we all just get along?

There's lot's of courteous anglers in every type of boat and also many that choose to fish from shore. You fish long enough and you're probably gonna run into someone that really grinds your gears but don't generalize or stereotype people or their intentions. There's been a lot of specific instances posted...many that I can relate to...but this thread seems to be getting a bit rediculous. Sometimes it doesn't go your way but you've got fish to catch. So just worry about that.