frabillfisher Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 OK i have been researching long and hard on my next semi-auto duck gun and am down to 3 choices...The browing gold stalker, franchi 1-12 or something like that or the stoeger model 2000....they seem to be basically the same gun look and have basically the same inertia driven design..the only difference i see is the 1.the price is higher on the browning and 2. i have heard more complaints about the franchi, havent heard about the stoger...i am really just leaning twoards paying the extra 400 bucks or so for the new browning and just know i bought one of the best guns i can but would be nice to save a few bucks if the cheaper models will do just as good as job...what are your opinions on these 3 models or you experiencs...can never start preparing for next waterfowl season too early}! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikeBayCommanche Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Have to go Beretta Extrema for my next gun. Seen it in action during duck season. Great Gun. Saving up for it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceHawk Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I personally like Rem 1187's. They are definately my gun of choice for waterfowl. Of the ones you mentioned I would go with the Frannchi. I have guys I hunt with that have these and they like them alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAJ Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Brownings are gas operated, aren't them??My 2 cents is that you get what you pay for. So I would stay away from the stoeger just because a $400 auto isn't going to stand up to the MN winters. My brother has a franchi and loves it. My next gun, either a beretta or SBE2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 i think your wrong RAJ! i have a stoger and it has lasted for 5 years. i haven't had a problem at all with it. this year alone it's been in three different states and canada. the only problem i have had is when i don't clean it for a week or two of hunting, it gets a little slow. the one gun i would stay away from is the beretta extema. i think it's junk. my one buddy has had nothing but problems and he cleans it all the time. when we had this last cold snap, it wouldn't cycle a new shell threw and if it did the bolt wouldn't close all the way. i were to get a new gun it would be a new stoger or a benelli super black eagle. her's my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAJ Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I've never owned a stoeger, it's just what i've been hearing from others. You are going to hear good and bad on any gun! It just depends on who you talk to. Pesonally, I'd see how the gun feels to you and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartell Angler Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Rem. 870 Mag!Oh you said autoloader? Then I can't help ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanson Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 1 question... What's wrong with your current gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwacker Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I have a Browning Gold 3.5" and really love it. If you would have asked me two years ago I would have said it was the worst gun I ever owned. I switch solevants and it has performed flawlessly since then. From -20 degrees late season goose last year to 90 degree sporting clays it has worked great. With something like a auto-loader you will hear good and bad about every single brand. I have a buddy who is on his third SBE2 because of problems with each one. He paid $1600 for it. There are some many parts and variables such as shells, cleaner, ect that have to work together right for the guns to work. My advice would be to buy whichever gun feels best for you and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I like my beretta 390. It cycles shells in the coldest weather, and shoots very well for me. The 870 will never fail but it will beat the heck out of me every time geese fly over(I kep it to the side with goose loads).. they shoot very well.With any auto loader in extreme conditions(duck hunting can do it), you have to keep your gun clean.. how and what a person uses to clean there autoloader of any kind will determine how well its going to stand up in very cold conditions. Newer guns usually have less mishaps.. nothing has any wear, there is no charred powder remnants built up anywhere.. the test over time generally tells more than one season. If you want to learn the best cleaning methods for your gun, and the best lubricants to use.. getout and bust some clays this winter if it ever gets cold outside again. The peformance of the gun when your shooting cold is most important because that is what is going to be late season duck hunting when you pick up the gun. Any lubricant heated up will work well, some make things worse when they are cold(rem oil).Get the gun that fits you best, avoid the guns people have a ton of problems with, and take care of your gun and you will be happy with your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 i'm sorry RAJ. people who i know that own a stoger have all said good things about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I have a browning gold hunter in 3inch and love it and if I was going to get another gun just for duck hunting I would have to go to benelli a buddy has one and he wont even use anything else that he has. its light wieght and recoil is considerably less Thats what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frabillfisher Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 The only reason im leaning twoards the browning gold is because i;ve used my uncles a few times before when mine had broke down and it seemed to fit me realllly nice, both times i had it the first i got 2 deer, then i used it duck hunting the next time and semmed like i couldnt miss a duck, my dad also recently bought a new win superx3 and i shot that and is still didnt feel as smooth as the brownings action did...the bad things ive seen and heard about franchis are the bolt handle falling out in the field, the guy i new used a screw to open his chamber?Keep the reports comin guys got some money saving to do so i have time to decide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwp Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Have to go with the Benelli SBE...you can't go wrong...survey said...Benelli...the best of the best...good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Pete Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I've owned my Benelli super black eagle for around 10 years. This year after much hard use and little cleaning I had my first ever load that did not cycle. Cleaned it that night and works fine. It has worked in -20 shooting south dakota pheasants and 103 shooting MN crows. Would I buy another, you bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ec30_06 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 sbe2 gets my vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat-man Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 SBE with a patternmaster is the the gun for me had others but the benelli is the only way to go. my 2cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsandwaterguy Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Ive also been looking for next season. My buddies shoot all sorts of different guns and the one ive been impressed with is the benelli M2. Its basically a mini version of the SBE2 and shoots only up to 3 inch. He shoots it because it fits him so well, hes a pretty small fella. I think that is the key, go to a local gun shop and stay there for a while. Shoulder as many guns as you can with a coat on too is a good idea. Feel and fit i think are the most important. The SBE2 seems to fit a lot of hunters and it fits me like a glove so thats what i will be going with. Now i just have to raise the 13 benjamns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAJ Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I've seen 2 stoegers come back with the barrels in pieces, so i don't recommended them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpester Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I used my father's new Browning Gold this year and liked it a lot. I went to buy a Browning Gold to replace my old, beat to hell, A-5 but tried out the fit of the Browning Silver and ended up buying the Browning Silver. It cost a bit less than the Gold. I used the Silver for half of the duck season and I like it a lot. I killed more than a few ducks with it and it works well. I like the style of the Browning Silver more than the Gold. For prices, I got the gun at Cabela's because I had a lot of gift cards and they had a sale. I saw both the Gold and Silver for less money at Gander in Woodbury this Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBuker Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I've got both a browning gold and a benelli. I like them both but turn to the benelli almost every time. I just like it better over all and it's never ever failed me. I've had the browning get a little bucky in extreme conditions or if it was getting dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpester Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I was just looking at the Browning web page and I see that they are offering a $100 rebate on the Browning Gold valid until 11/30/2007. If you have a Cabela's Visa card, they regularly send offers in the mail to spend more than $450 and get $100 off at checkout. With these two offers you could save $200 plus you get an extra 2% in Cabela's bucks for using the Visa. Gander Mountain may still be cheaper since the $100 rebate is from Browning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frabillfisher Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 Well i went to look at guns today and i delted the stoeger completely from my list because the rib seemed way to blocky and felt kinda cheep...i looked at one of the franchi and it fit ok but didnt seem the best...the winchester superx2 fit pretty good and all they had was a browning gold deer gun and wasant the same as the gold stalker but i liked the feel of that also...i geuss im just gunna keep shopping and wait till i limit my choice to 2 or 3 and shoot them all at once and see wat works best..any one else have opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rost Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 M2I'd bet I have shot 5000 rounds through my M1 in the last 12 seasons without a single problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
river huntfish Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 benelli super nova ( go to the pump) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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