New State Record Largemouth

[Dave B]

Even transporting the water in the live well from a lake containing milfoil was a violation as well.

[DTro]

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Even transporting the water in the live well from a lake containing milfoil was a violation as well.

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How many time does it have to be said HE HAD A PERMIT!

[basmastermatt]

Spoke with Mark yesterday afternoon and by NO means are the DNR in any way trying to come after him. Like it says in the article they want to celebrate his catch. Being that Mark is so big in the industry and he works very closely with the DNR and very often. Mark and the DNR get along very well and will continue too. What you have here is a case of the (liberal) media here in MN trying to stir the pot and dig something up that just isn't necessary.

It's thanks to Mark that they are looking into changing the laws to help us fisherman here in MN.

Matt Peters

[Mark Christianson]

Thanks for the info Matt!

[Dave B]

I dont think it should even be an issue, but did he have a permit for the fish or for the water?

I think the DNR is much more serious about the spread of milfoil than they are about someone transporting one live fish.

[mr wizard]

Transporting water is a no-no. He had a permit to move the fish not the water. He broke the law as soon as he trailered up. Hope he can clean all the seeds out of his tanks, pumps, hoses, etc. I doubt he will get any fines.

[art]

Yeah, I know this pot is already stirred too much. But for those that say he had a permit, did he get it before he even left the lake? If he didn't, that is a violation from the get go. If he called the DNR while on the lake and got permission then my apologies. Just wondering. The paper said he took it to the Montrose station and received the permit there. Then he moved it to Brainerd rather than the Cabela's that the permit allowed. That is also breaking the law. I realize we all would have liked to have seen that big bass but the fact that it was a state record does not give him the liberty to break the law. It's in the books and we all have to abide by those regs as has been stated so many times on this board now don't we. Believe me, I am thrilled to see a new record. That's always exciting and a big congratulations to Mark. I'm sure he's a great guy. And as Capt. B.R.K stated. The DNR recognizes the laws were broken. Now do they intend to do anything about it? Sure it sucks to have it happen but believe me he'll be able to pay the fines with the endorsement money he'll make. And ultimately, congratulations again, Mark. That is a great catch.

[river rat316]

Some people have way to much time on there hands to worry about someone they dont even know breaking the dam laws, how about everyone worry about themselves and if you actually see (with your own eyes) someone breaking the laws or regs then you can do something about it, this is getting out of hand we all can read a reg book and make an assumption about what happened or if he broke the laws but noone knows what the real storie is besides the angler and the DNR officials!

Ohh and the comment about hoping he gets all the seeds and what not out of his livewell system, how would it be any different from someone pulling the plug at the ramp? apperently you never use your livewell in any infected waters? or do you flush it at the lake somehow?

Bottom line is somepeople are taking this way to far, celebrate the catch and leave the rest alone!

[mr wizard]

At least I empty it as the law says I have too.

[river rat316]

Good for you, I think most if not all FMers are law obiding citizens, the point I was trying to make is noone knows what kind of exception was granted to Mark on the phone by the DNR and alot of people are just assuming he broke the law, unless he gets charged with something, people should just relax and celebrate the catch.

[basmastermatt]

Nice post River Rat!!

[HARPOON-OR-BUST]

EXACTLY!!!! I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE IS SOME JEALOUSY INVOLVED WITH THIS WHOLE THING OR WHY PEOPLE HAVE TO SIT AND SPECULATE WITHOUT KNOWING FOR SURE. GOOD GREIF GIVE THE GUY A BREAK, AFTER ALL HE WAS TRYING TO KEEP IT ALIVE FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO GET THE CHANCE TO SEE IT!

[Dave B]

I dont keep fish because I fish Pool 2 and it is C&R. But, I would break this law all the time if I did keep fish. I understand the spirit of it, but it is a stupid law. Make it illegal to stock, sell or keep live fish, whatever, but this whole transporting live fish and/or water is completely ridiculous.

I am hoping that if enough people bring this to the attention of the DNR, maybe they will reexamime the way the law is written.

People should be ticketed for arriving at a ramp w/ live fish or a full live well, not leaving.

I do feel like people were too quick to defend his actions though. Instead of saying, yes, he broke the law-but it is a stupid law that should be changed, people yelled-"he got a permit and did nothing wrong". That wasnt the proper reaction.

[Willy]

Agreed. Why are people making such a big deal out of this? I guarantee if keeping fish, most people here will bring the fish in their livewell home alive, with water in the tank. Just seems some people have to have the holier than thou attitude all the time.

[LocalGuide]

I was going to post something along the lines of river rat316, but you beat me to it. THANK YOU!

Laws are meant to be broken. haha That is only if you have a state record fish at your hands and your so happy that you want to show it off!

Awesome catch! Do it again!

[Muddog]

Yes; I think the law is there so people won't take fish that were reared with with public money and use them for self financial gain. By selling or stocking. Plus in 2 or 3 years it could come back and be a new record.

The fish is dead. Long live the New State Record Largemouth.

[Captain B.R.K]

My last two cents and I'm quiet on the topic....... I congratulation Mark and his job well done. I'm not jealous or sitting here writting to waste my time.

What's done was done, but rules/regulations are put in place for a reason and when they are broken (no need to read between the lines because it is written in fine print in our regulations book), then I think it's fair to say that enforcement needs to follow up. I don't care if you are Al Linder, Babe Winkelman or Mr.MN angler, enforcement needs to be carried out all the same-CONSISTENCY.

Again Congrats to Mark.

[river rat316]

So you know for a fact that the DNR Montrose office didnt give him permission to transport live with water? NOONE KNOWS WHAT WAS SAID BETWEEN Mark and the DNR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everyones assuming something (and you know what they say.... and its true)

Take sometime to worry about yourself and get off everyone esle.... this goes for everyone

[Mark Christianson]

Kinda what my point has been too RR.

I am done on this topic.

[tjm]

Well said capt

Congrats to Mark

I'm not sure what the story is so i'll keep my 2 cents outa this 1 for now!!

On the other hand someone find a new state record whitetail get a permit to dart it and cage it up for everyone to see it.Where do we draw the line????

[grab the net]

Article in todays St. Cloud Times, 10-12-05, indicates the DNR feels that M.R. did violate state statute for the transporting of live fish. There is no mention of permits being obtained, and Ron Payer, DNR fisheries chief says MR apparently violated when he transported to Montrose to have the fish certified. MR was also told the record fish would have to be killed to certify it. He obviously did not and it was certified. I wonder if a state record bullhead would have to be killed to be certified?

DNR regulations don't allow the sale of game fish, but keeping it alive for display purposes could have been used for a profit of some sort.

What do you think an honest estimate of endorsement possibilities is? I wonder if it is as much as we hope it would be. Dietz, you seem to have an inside track on this type of thing, whadyathink ?

[Pherris]

Boy if people spent as much time analyzing fishing tactics as they have spent on this thread there might just be a new bass record someday. Mark is an asset to all MN fisherman not just bass folks. Don't you people have better things to spend time on? Again congratulations Mark.

[HARPOON-OR-BUST]

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On the other hand someone find a new state record whitetail get a permit to dart it and cage it up for everyone to see it.Where do we draw the line????

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YA, WHAT A GREAT POINT, I MEAN YOU ARE ALMOST TALKING ON THE SAME LINES HERE!! QUICK, CALL THE NEW CABELAS AND GET THEM TO SET UP A CAGE FOR YOU...........

[LEECH21]

Wow, I just got done reading about 20 new posts from people that are jealous or something. Some people just have to take away other peoples fame and glory.

We have a new state record bass at 8lbs 15 oz...DONE! Be happy for the guy. Be happy for the state. Be happy for the DNR and their fish management programs. Just think, there may be a 10 plus pounder out there waiting to be caught..in MINNESOTA!

I hope I never catch a state record bass. People would look down on me

[FishinBill]

heard a bit of a rumor....the week before the fish was caught, DNR shocked the lake and was weighing and measuring fish and they came across this beauty...then told Mark and he fished there for 5 days before he caught it. First thing I said was...hey he still had to catch it, it still had to bite....but a 250 acre lake is easy to fish compared to something like tonka....just a rumor I heard