Chad711 Posted April 23, 2005 Author Share Posted April 23, 2005 I wont lie, I didnt watch this guy play BUT he does look very promising!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_walleye Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 Well packer fans no help for your defense yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad711 Posted April 23, 2005 Author Share Posted April 23, 2005 Gotta love that pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad711 Posted April 23, 2005 Author Share Posted April 23, 2005 www.pmvfx.com/video/DEC-sports/T_williamson.wmv is the Williamson video... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnvikingsfreak Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 looks like aaron rodgers is the new person that vikings fans are going to love to hate goes from #2 pick to #24 he must of did something wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_walleye Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 First Pollack is sniped in front of us and now the jets snipe Nugent. I was hoping we would get that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad711 Posted April 24, 2005 Author Share Posted April 24, 2005 I now hate the Jets even more...Maybe this is their revenge for getting Brien of the bench and choking their season away LOL...Oh well, Gary Anderson can still hit from 30 right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_walleye Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Hey hats off too the packers. Their first round pick wont even see the field for at least 2 years and then they draft a reciever in the 2nd round. Thats rotten and i love it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratosman Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I like the draft choices this year, we filled a definate void left from Moss and beefed up an already impressive D-line. The Packers fans should run their new GM right out of Green Bay. Unless Rodgers proves me wrong, my bet is they are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kato811 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 thry should have taken Nugent with the #18 pick theey need someone good in that position more than they needed who they picked there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad711 Posted April 24, 2005 Author Share Posted April 24, 2005 No they couldnt take him at 18! That woulda been too much lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_walleye Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Yeah theres no way you could have taken him at 18. I would have like too have seen him in purple but not at 18. They will address that issue somehow before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
united jigsticker Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 If we took Nugent at 18, Tice would go under alot of scrutiny for taking a kicker that early. I am just glad we took a receiver at #7 instead of another running back. I'm all for Bennett leaving. Maybe we trade for a good kicker and a second rounder next year with Bennett.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermuskie Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I think if they really would have want Nugent they would have seen it coming from the Jets and tried to jump up and get him. Of course maybe they didn't see it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzsaw Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 RIGHT ON CYBERMUSKIE!!!Heres an article from ESPN!!By John ClaytonESPN.com Winners : Dallas Coach Bill Parcells was the clear big winner in the draft. He bulked up his front seven with the additions of linebackers Demarcus Ware and Kevin Burnett and defensive end Marcus Spears. Combine that with the free-agent signing of nose tackle Jason Ferguson, and the Cowboys have the flexibility to go to a 3-4 defensive scheme or stay in a hybrid 4-3. The key was getting Ware as the pass-rusher. The Cowboys were getting the word out they were taking Shawne Merriman, who ended up going a pick later to San Diego. But Ware is a Charles Haley-type talent who can be a pass-rusher from the four-man line and a pass-rushing linebacker in the 3-4. He was one of the most unique defensive talents in the draft. Spears is the ideal end for a 3-4 scheme -- a big, strong 300-pounder with some playmaking ability. Burnett is able to play inside or outside linebacker. • Minnesota Vikings : This couldn't have worked out any better for Mike Tice and the Vikings. They got the speed receiver they sought in South Carolina wide receiver Troy Williamson and a right defensive end in Erasmus James of Wisconsin. Williamson will start out in packages as a deep threat because he is so good at running straight ahead downfield. James will be a pass-rusher from the right side of a defensive line that is loaded with talent. They have three first-rounders on the line -- James and Kenechi Udeze at ends and Kevin Williams at defensive tackle. Throw in free-agent signing Pat Williams at nose tackle and this might be one of the top three defensive lines in the game. They also may have found the long-term replacement for David Dixon in the second round with Marcus Johnson from Mississippi.• Cleveland Browns: New general manager Phil Savage did it the Baltimore way -- he stayed patient and he made solid selections. By being patient, Savage didn't call the Dolphins, who were trying to fleece an extra pick out of them to trade up to No. 2 and take wide receiver Braylon Edwards of Michigan. He didn't rush the selection of quarterback Charlie Frye of Akron and ended up getting one of the steals of the draft in the third round. Brodney Pool was a low first-round talent drafted in the second round at free safety. Savage is changing seven starters on defense, but he knows he can't rush things. Edwards and Frye are the future. Pool will jump in as a starter. It's a great start.• San Diego Chargers : The plan was to use one of the first-round choices on offense and another on defense. Plans change when things work out better. The Chargers got the pass-rusher they were hoping for in Shawne Merriman of Maryland and then pulled out the best nose tackle in the draft in Luis Castillo of Northwestern. In the second round, the Chargers added to the receiving corps with Vincent Jackson. Jamal Williams is one of the league's best nose tackles, but the Chargers lose when he's out of the lineup with injuries. As Williams goes, so goes the defense. Having Castillo there gives the Chargers a one-two punch in stopping the run. Merriman will add sacks, and that will take pressure off the cornerbacks in passing situations. Jackson upgrades the team at wide receiver. The help in the defensive front seven came a lot cheaper than trying to go for a veteran defensive end such as Simeon Rice. Troy Williamson is expected to make up some of the production the Vikings lost with Randy Moss.• Philadelphia Eagles: Like the Patriots, the Eagles have the luxury of looking ahead. Though they could have used a tackle to help them if Tra Thomas shows some age because of concerns about his knee, the Eagles draft solid, good players who can be groomed into future starters. That strategy worked a couple years ago when they drafted cornerbacks Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown and safety Michael Lewis. Defensive tackle Mike Patterson was a smart move because Corey Simon is on a one-year franchise tag and Hollis Thomas wants to be traded. Reggie Brown is the wide receiver who can take over when they move Freddie Mitchell. Matt McCoy is a linebacker brought in for depth, which was needed after the release of Nate Wayne. Too bad the Eagles couldn't have used their third-round choice to get Travis Henry, but they feel they got a good back in Ryan Moats. Henry for Moats, though, might have made this one of the top two draft days. Losers • Seattle Seahawks : The Seahawks were victims of circumstance. Timing is everything and their timing was all wrong. They found that out when they tried to trade halfback Shaun Alexander during an offseason that featured the best running back draft in years. Drafting No. 23, the Seahawks tried to be aggressive in trade talks, but they hit the stingiest first round for trades in recent memory. The plan was to offer a third- and fourth-rounder to move up to get Erasmus James, Demarcus Ware or Thomas Davis. Nobody bit on the trades. They tried to offer a second-rounder in 2006 to entice teams. Nobody wanted to move, so the Seahawks traded back to take center Chris Spencer. General manager Tim Ruskell loves USC middle linebacker Lofa Tatupu, but the second round might have been a little early. In the third round the Seahawks got David Greene to groom as a backup quarterback.• Buffalo Bills : The Bills held on to Travis Henry too long in trade talks and didn't get value. They hoped to get Arizona, Tampa Bay or Philadelphia to give them at least a third-round choice. But all three teams got their backs in the draft. The Bucs took Cadillac Williams. The Cardinals opted to take J.J. Arrington in the second round rather than offering a third-round choice to the Bills. The Eagles took Ryan Moats. The Bills selected good players -- wide receiver Roscoe Parrish and tight end Kevin Everett. But they still didn't get help for their offensive line. • Denver Broncos: Organizationally, the Broncos, like the Cowboys last year, profited by making a bold trade. No one can question the move to get a No. 1 and No. 4 in 2006 from the Redskins along with a third-round choice by giving up their No. 1 pick. But taking three cornerbacks is a little shaky and does nothing to help their other units. The Broncos were obviously looking to the future by taking cornerbacks Darrent Williams, Karl Paymah and Domonique Foxworth. At best, only one will break into the nickel spot this year. Their special teams might be better, but the Broncos didn't do enough for this year. Then they made matters worse by ending the first day of the draft by selecting former Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett. At this juncture, Clarett seems more like a practice squad player than a back ready to step in and make an impact. The Cowboys sacrificed some of the 2004 season by looking ahead to 2005. The Broncos plan to go to the Super Bowl every year. While this draft may be great for 2006, what about 2005? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzsaw Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Solid drafts move Cardinals, Vikings forward By Len Pasquarelli But, in our humble opinion, the Vikings and Cardinals , the franchise that Dennis Green once coached and the outfit by which he is now employed, were certainly among the weekend's biggest winners . And given the limp divisions in which each competes, the impressive draft bounties that the two teams amassed could be enough to further close the already narrow talent gap between themselves and the defending division champions.It was anticipated that the Vikings, who had a pair of first-round choices by virtue of the trade that sent Randy Moss packing, would have a solid draft. But saying a team is going to choose wisely, and then having the club do it, are sometimes polar extremes . And as colleague Chris Mortensen noted on-air Sunday afternoon, credit Minnesota owner Red McCombs, who is on the brink of peddling his franchise, for having the vision to see beyond the "For Sale" sign, hold things together, and conduct business pretty nicely.The Vikings got playmakers on both sides of the ball in the first round, surprising some pundits by choosing wide receiver Troy Williamson over Mike Williams and adding to a fast-improving, young defensive front with pass-rush end Erasmus James . But the Vikes not only started fast, they finished nicely as well, adding "value board" prospects such as offensive lineman Marcus Johnson (who could replace right guard David Dixon), corner Dustin Fox (a potential "nickel" contributor as a rookie) and tailback Ciatrick Fason . If coach Mike Tice is as serious as he claims to be about returning to the power run game that Minnesota abandoned in 2004, Fason could be a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
river rat316 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Reading Mel Kuipers board this morning he had the Vikes as having the best draft! This is goin to be fun this year! The best free agent pick ups in along time and now a great job at the draft! Hopefully we stay injury free this year and work as a team, we could go a long way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down to Earth Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I have to agree with you on this Buzzsaw. Unlike my Packers the Vikings had a solid draft. I didn't get a chance to watch any of it, but I was over at my parents house and got a chance to read the Milwaukee Journal yesterday, and not much positive was going on about how and who the Packers picked up(both locally and nationally). Congratulations to the Vikes on a great off season so far. I'm not giving the NFC North over to you guys completely yet, but it isn't looking to promising for the Pack right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishyguy Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 The Vikes did have a good draft but I wish they would have found some depth or help at linebacker.I also think Rodgers for the Pack was a good pick. It signals the Pack are looking to the future, and if that is the case he was the best pick for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY Tim Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I like what my Brownies did addressing defense and of course Wide Receiver...3 - Braylon Edwards WR Michigan34 - Brodney Pool S Oklahoma67 - Chalie Frye QB Akron104 - Antonio Perkins CB Oklahoma139 - David McMillan DE Kansas176 - Nick Speegle OLB New Mexico203 - Andrew Hoffman DT Virginia217 - Jon Dunn OT Virginia TechI expect they will address more offensive lineman next season I like are starting 5 but we are not deep at all..Tucker, Andruzzi, Faine, Coleman, Verba. Fowler is about the only C/G that can fill in but one injury to a tackle and were screwed.With TE Winslow, WR Edwards and Bryant and RB Suggs and Droughns I am pretty pleased with our offense.I think Cincinnatti did very well in the draft along with the Ravens. Pittsburgh got a quality tight end.The Browns will finish in last but they are on the right track and hopefully in 3 years will be ready to be a force in the division.Charlie Frye is a QB they liked for a while they like this kid because he reminds them of another great Browns QB Bernie Kosar.We will see how these picks pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panolo Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I was happy with the Williamson pick. As I said in the mock draft thread he was ok at 7 for me. Apparently he really shot up and there were other teams that had him high on thier boards. He probably would not have made it past 12th if we did not select him. James is a very solid pick if he can stay healthy. I can't imagine what it could be like if the Vikes actually have a good pass rush. If Udeze and James pan out Kevin Williams could legitemly have 15-20 sacks this year. That would be amazing for an interior lineman.The biggest tell for me about Mike Williams is that many teams could have moved up to grab him if they wanted. The Titans, Redskins, and Lions would have traded thier picks. If he was that supreme of a talent and a no doubter somebody would have traded up for him. I heard some rumblings that he put on 10-15 pounds between the combine and the draft. All of a sudden he becomes a 4.67 guy instead of a 4.57 guy. That is more TE speed rather than WR speed. I was not as high on Fox as they were. I thought there were better safety options out thier. He won't play corner in the NFL. Doesn't have the speed. I think they would have picked Marcus Johnson over the Nuge if they both were available at that time. Watching his clips and reading his interviews he is very confident, versatile, and very good. He expects to come in and win the job. Fiason was our best value pick. I watch all the Gator games and I really liked him. He played in a tough, tough conference and still gained 1300 yards. I also thought that Zooks offense was questionable at best. He needs to improve his blocking to play for us but he could be very good. CJ Mosley I know nothing about except for what I read. Looks like a depth pick. Adrian Ward again I know nothing. Looks like a speedster. Probably Special teams guy if he can make the team.I think they accomplished what they wanted to. Added a starting WR, DE, and OG. They also added depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad711 Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 Tim, Andre Davis (WR) is a stud, they NEED to get him the ball more ofter. Watched him in College, he had a great rookie year... Cant stand your TE though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY Tim Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Davis was the most consistent if we can keep him healthy with Northcutt in the slot and Edwards on the other side. I like it on paper. I would be very surprised if Winslow is used on special teams again this year. We also may have two tight end sets with Heiden and Winslow. Heiden has been a very good tight end for us. Winslow will be having his rookie season this year. It's a start anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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