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Is NASCAR still fun to watch?


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Replace "NASCAR" with "Sponsors" in that article and would probably read more accurately.

When the cars started getting homogenized is when the manufacturers where complaining one company or another had an unfair advantage with their body style. They started threatening to take their toys and go home if changes weren't made. What would you do?

Other sponsors: Say it like this .... , or pose your drink from our bottle with the label showing, take one drink before speaking and one after. Thank everyone by name who has a sticker on the car over X by X inches.

Do this, do that, don't do this, don't do that or we'll pull our money.

Not saying NASCAR has been held totally at ransom but when your money tree tells you what to do, you usually find a way to do it.

I presume the change to airing races on FS1 was a move to make more money in the face of dwindling revenues but in my world it backfired. I don't get the channel and won't pay the extra for it. The more races I miss in the season, the more detached I get from the sport.

It IS up to NASCAR to figure it out because I believe they are struggling with what they've evolved to. They just need to decide if tradition is what they want or the quickest way to make money. Let's see what they decide.... whistle

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Totally agree, it really is getting kind of sickening to watch these younger racers on some of the featured shows on t.v. get out of thier midgets or bandelero's or whatever kind of car or bike or what have you and the first thing out of thier mouth is a sponsor name bla, bla, bla.... It seems they put more focus on post race speaking to ensure the sponsors get thier plugs etc than they do on racing itself. Same with the young kids on any of the outdoors channels after they take an animal....it was the bow or the gun or the binoculars or the scent killer or other b.s. excuse why they were sucessfull. What happened to interviewing a kid and have him thank his Dad or Grandpa or Uncle or Mother for teaching him or her how to hunt and be a good sportsman?? Some of these kids are too young to even understand any of the "business" side of anything. So totally fake and pre-reheased, heck sometimes you can hear the people in the backround telling them what to say....its pathetic. (strictly my opinions of course).

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I presume the change to airing races on FS1 was a move to make more money in the face of dwindling revenues but in my world it backfired. I don't get the channel and won't pay the extra for it. The more races I miss in the season, the more detached I get from the sport.

What Sprint races were on FS1 besides the All-Star race and a few other non-points races?

Nothing changed as the points races were all on FOX, as they were previously, with the latter half of the schedule on TNT/ESPN. It's been that way for a while now.

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Rarely see a race on FS1.

I agree with some of what the writer is saying in the article.

Sponsors have a lot to do with the racing today, maybe more than ever. No sponsors, no car, period.

I believe ever since the Big E passed, things have gone down hill ever since. I believe many tuned in to see who E was going to pass or bump to win.

NASCAR has been way to involved in what they driver can and cannot do, also trying to make every team as even as possible.

let the boys bring the old rules back and let's go racing, then I believe many fans would return.

I do believe the economy has a lot to do with the lack in attendance also, maybe more than what one realizes but that does not explain viewership maybe also being down.

let's face it, the races today have gotten very boring at many tracks, that may have more to do with it than anything else.

Then, unless you are on a 3-4 car team, good luck with running on your own, almost impossible to compete with one car in your stable.

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I would say two years ago, maybe I'd agree the racing was boring. But last year and this year the on track product I think has been excellent. Lots of good hard racing with the new generation of cars. Much more like the old racing before that piece of junk "Car of Tomorrow". I still hate the fake "Chase" deal and with they'd always keep season points, but the races themselves have been very good.

I don't have any problem with racers thanking their sponsors either. I know what it costs to race, even locally and believe me if you guys were footing the bills, you'd be thanking anyone helping you too!

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OK, OK !!! I'm over dramatizing the FS1 programming I guess... grin

We always had the races set to record automatically since we're often busy on the weekends. We'd always have a recorded race to watch before bed on Sunday night no matter when they ran over the weekend.

Earlier this season we started seeing them pop up on FS1 and our recordings dropped off. With the network changes we haven't gotten back on top of getting each week recorded and we know there were a few must watch races for us that we couldn't get. It's been annoying and easy to forget.

I do agree with lawdog though, the races I have seen this year have been better than the past few years.

Plus I'll admit since Tony hasn't been running good I've lost some interest. When he's out, I'm pretty much out.

There are other drivers I like to see do well but I haven't landed on another to be "my driver" yet.

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It's funny to me that most are bringing up the sponsor issue but I really could care less about all the sponsors. Racing has always been about advertising and I'm OK with that.

My biggest issue with NASCAR is the cars themselves. Those cookie cutter cars lead to such a sterile environment for racing it's almost unbearable. Part of the fun in racing is the bragging rights if your favorite car manufacturer happens to win a race or championship.

I'm also kind of tired of NASCAR trying to make something out of the first Daytona race than what it really is. In reality it is just the first race of the season, nothing more.

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Nascar as a whole has become a joke. When it was founded it was a bunch of moonshine running rebels that hated authority and were all about seeing what they could get away with and not get caught. Nothing was uniform, they modded the cars to get the best advantage over the other guy and for the most part due to their illegal activities they tried not to draw too much attention to themselves.

Now it's all about exposure, the brass at Nascar have sold their soul to the corporate dollar and the races as well as the cars are about as sterile as a diagnostic lab. I used to watch every single race and tape them if I was away but for over a decade I haven't been able to force myself to watch a complete race. I can see why Tony heads to a dirt track every chance he gets.

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I would say two years ago, maybe I'd agree the racing was boring. But last year and this year the on track product I think has been excellent. Lots of good hard racing with the new generation of cars. Much more like the old racing before that piece of junk "Car of Tomorrow".

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Races on FS1 this year:

Sprint Unlimited

Bud Duel (1&2)

Sprint Showdown

All-Star race

All non-points events.

The previous two years only one of those races was on FOX and that was the Sprint Unlimited.

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I would say two years ago, maybe I'd agree the racing was boring. But last year and this year the on track product I think has been excellent. Lots of good hard racing with the new generation of cars. Much more like the old racing before that piece of junk "Car of Tomorrow". I still hate the fake "Chase" deal and with they'd always keep season points, but the races themselves have been very good.

I don't have any problem with racers thanking their sponsors either. I know what it costs to race, even locally and believe me if you guys were footing the bills, you'd be thanking anyone helping you too!

I would agree 100% that todays racing is much better than the years with the COT.

Far as sponsors, you have to have them even at a local track or it will be very difficult to compete as you stated Jeff, the costs are getting crazy. Every year either the parts are up or the changes in the rules can cost even far more.

When they say, we are changing the motor rules, you must run this crate motor, that is an added cost to buy one and then what do you do with the motors you now have as they in time will become a motor you cannot use to compete within a year or two. I have seen this happen twice in the past 7 years or so.

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Nascar as a whole has become a joke. When it was founded it was a bunch of moonshine running rebels that hated authority and were all about seeing what they could get away with and not get caught. Nothing was uniform, they modded the cars to get the best advantage over the other guy and for the most part due to their illegal activities they tried not to draw too much attention to themselves.

Purple, Can't have the moonshine running rebels anymore, moonshining has become almost a thing of the past compared to the earlier years.

Most teams still trying to get away with what they can to win a race, they have to if you want to win. Every once in awhile, you see someone getting caught pushing the rules for that small advantage on the track, does not take much to put one to the front.

At times it seems like NASCAR is trying to turn Sprint racing into a IROC series.

Even though they have to run this or that car, they still mold or massage them as far as they dare but they do have to fit the template. Plenty of places one can massage the cares body so you get that extra advantage yet still pass tech with the template. They use a wind tunnel to check and see if what they massaged made any difference.

One of the problems I see is that NASCAR tries to keep everyone on a even playing field. To do so, if one chassis company finds a small advantage, NASCAR will give the other chassis companies something to try and level the playing field, not saying that is right but that is a huge difference from years past.

You see this even on the local Saturday night tracks, bodies like IMCA do this all the time. It's gotten to the point that one has to use a chip so you do not run more than so many rpm's, some classes have to run a certain gears and on and on. It's in every aspect of racing, not just NASCAR.

They are trying to make all teams more even so everyone has a chance to win. Don't know that I agree with that thinking but it is what it is.

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Purple, Can't have the moonshine running rebels anymore, moonshining has become almost a thing of the past compared to the earlier years.

Well yeah, if you focus like a laser beam on the moonshine part and totally disregard the context. What I was saying is they were rebels and didn't like conformation or authority. You can still find that all over the country. Maybe not making moonshine but certainly other ways. The whole thing has just gotten too controlled by image and marketing for me.

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I would agree that is it much more controlled than the years of past, for sure.

I see nothing worn with making a rule you have to stay in your car unless of fire of course. Does not effect any of the racing and will keep the drivers much safer.

For me, this rule could have been in effect years ago and I would doubt that any racer in Cup would have 1 issue with this new rule. Knee jerk reaction or not.

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For me, this rule could have been in effect years ago and I would doubt that any racer in Cup would have 1 issue with this new rule.

Of course they won't have an issue with it because then the focus is back on Stewart again and they are tripping over themselves to keep it on Ward.

So much for "Boys have at it".

Frauds.

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Not surprised, as they and the entire racing community have been trying to push the onus of the death on Ward since they claim that it all happened because he got out of his car.

preposterous statement of the year.

So you're saying regardless of whether or not he got out of his car his death was imminent?

Now I've heard it all.

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