OZONICS

[dabber]

Looking at going with the Ozonics instead of all the scent free clothing.

Does it really work? And is it worth it?

Thanks

[Lunker]

Talking to people who use it, yes it works. It does make noise, and I've heard of cases of guys getting some serious migraines if they don't have it set up correctly. Personally, at some point technology goes too far, and I won't be using them.

[Bear55]

I don't use it but a lot of people believe in it, some good videos out there as well. The deer seem to know something is up but they don't bolt out of there. Not sure how well it would work on high pressured or public land deer.

[DonBo]

...at some point technology goes too far, and I won't be using them.

For me, this is that point. How about we all learn a bit of woodsmanship before relying on gadgets and gizzmos.

[nbadger23]

From the discussions I've had with folks who hunt with them, and hunt a lot, they definitely work. But like Lunker and Don, I struggle with how much technology I want to use. To each their own.

The guys who ran the camp we stayed at in Missouri last January used them on every hunt but they were still very wind conscious. For example, you can certainly use them to protect your scent from a deer that might come in the "wrong way" on a stand, but if the wind was wrong when you walked in you're going to blow a lot of deer out there and the ozonics isn't going to help a bit.

[pushbutton]

Don't doubt they actually work, having said that, because the company will not release how many parts per million of ozone being released, would be leery of buying one until they do. Similarly, they claim there is governmental oversight for this product, but any research I have done on ozone generators essentially shows there really is not any. Well, maybe for things like the manufacturing, but not for amount of ozone being produced. Breathing in the ozone in a confined space like a blind could be downright dangerous, and depending on how much ozone is being generated would not want one sitting a few feet from my head either. The HSOforum, constantly points out "if used properly".....which is true...but how often does the wind remain at a constant speed and vector?

[muskiemanAD]

All scent free, scent killer or what ever else they are pushing is a gimmick. I got some pixie dust to sell you that will eliminate all your scent, trust me it works. If you are hunting pressured deer they will smell you if they are downwind... I have had my best results the last 5 years and wear whatever and use the wind to my advantage....

[tbetts1000]

They work! In a ground blind I would say 99.9% effective. I have had deer 5 feet away and they never knew I was there. Out of a tree stand its less effective. They do hear the fan and know something is up but don't spook, I hunt farm country and there is always corn dryers and like noise going on. The sent control is good and at worse I think they can still smell you but its like you are at a much greater distance.

I have a mount in every tree I hunt and never go out without it.

As far as too much technology you have compound bows, portable tree stands, carbon arrows, expandable broadheads, range finders, etc. You still need to prep, scout, and invest your time. The only folks who have any credibility complaining are the ones hunting with long bows and wood arrows.

Buy one and get the XL battery too.

[nbadger23]

tbetts..I don't believe anyone was "complaining." As for myself, I simply draw a line at how much technology I want to use. I do use a scent killing spray on my clothes so I'm definitely not a person who only relies on the wind but for me, taking it to the point where a machine is artificially covering up my scent is too much. Others may not have the same thought process and that's fine.

[BoxMN]

Still newbie to bow hunting, but this type of gadget, while it likely works, is sort of like the motorized decoys for ducks - in that for me it is just too much extra stuff to bring and hassle with, and at least for the decoys they just break or run out of battery at the wrong time.

Maybe I will see one some time and change my mind, as I do use motorized decoys in NoDak, but that is only because my spread consists of only 4 decoys there so easy to keep one working, haha!

[harvey lee]

Yes, this is the line in the sand, I will go without. Gets to a point one needs to stop all this, heck, I still harvest a few deer without it every season.

[sticknstring]

Isn't trying to stay out of their nostrils naturally that makes it so rewarding? I'll pass!

[Black Bear]

Not interested....here's why

Breathing ground-level ozone can result in a number of health effects that are observed in broad segments of the population. Some of these effects include:

Induction of respiratory symptoms

Decrements in lung function

Inflammation of airways

Respiratory symptoms can include:

Coughing

Throat irritation

Pain, burning, or discomfort in the chest when taking a deep breath

Chest tightness, wheezing, or shortness of breath

In addition to these effects, evidence from observational studies strongly indicates that higher daily ozone concentrations are associated with increased asthma attacks, increased hospital admissions, increased daily mortality, and other markers of morbidity. The consistency and coherence of the evidence for effects upon asthmatics suggests that ozone can make asthma symptoms worse and can increase sensitivity to asthma triggers.

Ozone is highly reactive in the respiratory tract

When breathed into the airways, ozone interacts with proteins and lipids on the surface of cells or present in the lung lining fluid, which decreases in depth from 10 µm in the large airways to 0.2 µm in the alveolar region. Epithelial cells lining the respiratory tract are the main target of ozone and its products. These cells become injured and leak intracellular enzymes such as lactate dehydrogenase into the airway lumen, as well as plasma components. Epithelial cells also release a variety of inflammatory mediators that can attract polymorphonuclear leukocytes (PMNs) into the lung, activate alveolar macrophages, and initiate a train of events leading to lung inflammation. Antioxidants present in cells and lining fluid may protect the epithelial barrier against damage by ozone or its reaction products.

Source: Devlin et al., (1997)

[vister]

I'm sure it works, but who can say it was "ozonics" that allowed the deer to walk into my lap. Heres how I see it. I already have my hands full heading out for the hunt with calls, rangefinder, blind or climber, and my bow, let alone water and snacks and saw and such. I'm not about to also start toting around an "X" amount of dollar machine I find completely unnecessary to the woods with me. My scent control techniques allow me to sit on a stool in the grass, and still have deer walk 10' in front of me, simply by practicing scent control with my clothing and playing the wind right. The last thing I need to do is get 25' up in the climber only to realize "oh dump", forgot to charge my ozonics battery

However, I know people that will get to the lake to go ice fishing, only to find out they forgot their vexilar, or the battery is dead, and they will turn around and go home.

[muskiemanAD]

Play the wind correctly and you will be fine. The best thing for checking wind is milkweed seed. It will follow the wind currents and thermals to a T. It is amazing mid day you can see your scent drift out and over a deer trail while at evening the same wind currents will drop your scent down rather quick. It is In my must haves for the stand..

[MN Slick]

I bought one and was not impressed. It flat out did not work for me so I took advantage of the money back guarantee and returned it for a full refund.

[fr0sty]

In addition to this, I used to have a home ozone generator/air cleaner. The ozone produced by the unit killed/burned the leaves of nearby plants.

I wouldn't want to breath the stuff.

Not interested....here's why

Breathing ground-level ozone can result in a number of health effects that are observed in broad segments of the population. Some of these effects include:

Induction of respiratory symptoms

Decrements in lung function

Inflammation of airways

Respiratory symptoms can include:

Coughing

Throat irritation

Pain, burning, or discomfort in the chest when taking a deep breath

Chest tightness, wheezing, or shortness of breath

In addition to these effects, evidence from observational studies strongly indicates that higher daily ozone concentrations are associated with increased asthma attacks, increased hospital admissions, increased daily mortality, and other markers of morbidity. The consistency and coherence of the evidence for effects upon asthmatics suggests that ozone can make asthma symptoms worse and can increase sensitivity to asthma triggers.

Ozone is highly reactive in the respiratory tract

When breathed into the airways, ozone interacts with proteins and lipids on the surface of cells or present in the lung lining fluid, which decreases in depth from 10 µm in the large airways to 0.2 µm in the alveolar region. Epithelial cells lining the respiratory tract are the main target of ozone and its products. These cells become injured and leak intracellular enzymes such as lactate dehydrogenase into the airway lumen, as well as plasma components. Epithelial cells also release a variety of inflammatory mediators that can attract polymorphonuclear leukocytes (PMNs) into the lung, activate alveolar macrophages, and initiate a train of events leading to lung inflammation. Antioxidants present in cells and lining fluid may protect the epithelial barrier against damage by ozone or its reaction products.

Source: Devlin et al., (1997)

[mainbutter]

I don't care if it works, I have a simple scent solution:

Wash with unscented soap. Use unscented deodorant. Don't work to hard and sweat a ton getting out to your stand.

Clothes that smell like the outdoors are a decent cover scent. If I was a scent-o-phobe, I'd probably scrub my clothes with freshly turned dirt.

[SmellEsox]

If there was something that 100%, without doubt, eliminated all scent, I'm not sure I'd use it. Would it be the same hunting if we had that advantage over the deer? I'm serious! Part of the satisfaction of killing a decent buck is that you outsmarted him. By totally eliminating one of his best defenses, for me personally, I wouldn't feel right. That is why I don't gun hunt anymore. Just seems like too much of an advantage. I know I use a lot of technology, but my personal line has been drawn.

Plus, I don't want to haul more junk into the woods with me. I like the K.I.S.S. principal.

[dabber]

Wow Lots of good info. Thanks I bow hunt in a stand thats in a corner field next to woods where the deer come out. It seems that the wind swirls around so thats why I have a tough time in that particular spot.

Maybe I should go back to my method that has worked many times before. I got half-punked sprayed by a skunk during a duck hunt many years ago. I used the same coat during bow hunting that year. It definitley gave off a slight skunk odor and it to work as deer seemed pressed to pick up my scent. So in the next 5 years I trapped a skunk or even picked up a dead one from the road,( I would let it air out for a week or so) , place it near my stand and Presto!

Has any one else done this OR was it dumb luck when I shot my deer?