Doubling extensions on Eskimo shark auger?

[lungdeflator]

Is it fine or possible to put more then one extension on an auger? I've never had to worry about it but I will be up on lake Winnipeg early march and seeing they are already using extensions now makes me worry....

[Sea Hage]

Why won't it be ok ? Ya might need to stand on a bucket to start it !

[jentz]

Drill to the depth the auger will go without extensions,Remove from hole,add both extensions finnish the hole,Kill auger then remove from hold.Drill another hole,start with out extensions and repete.Mure slush to remove but it works fine

[hawkeye43]

Take 2 augers, 1 with just the auger and one with both extensions on

[JSK76]

Funny to see this post. I just called ION to order a extension and the lady told me I can't use 2 extension together and that it will void my warranty. And since my auger is registered they know it came with one, and that I order another. She said my warranty will now be void I told her I don't live that far north to need to use 2 together I just don't have one anymore.

[dan z]

Sounds like a good place for a hand auger

[Vitreus]

Funny to see this post. I just called ION to order a extension and the lady told me I can't use 2 extension together and that it will void my warranty. And since my auger is registered they know it came with one, and that I order another. She said my warranty will now be void I told her I don't live that far north to need to use 2 together I just don't have one anymore.

That is ridiculous. Sounds like she was on a bit of a power trip. I'd complain.

[cam white]

Is it fine or possible to put more then one extension on an auger? I've never had to worry about it but I will be up on lake Winnipeg early march and seeing they are already using extensions now makes me worry....

Smart thinking. No problem using a double extension up here on the lake. 3.5 feet of ice already, still lots of time to go .

[lungdeflator]

I ordered the auger and havent received it yet but Ive heard the eskimos dont have the RPMs of a Jiffy but the torque they put out is awesome. I was just worried about that torque and if it would shear something if the bit got caught or starting the hole. Im no engineer but I know the longer something gets and the more torque you put to it, the easier it is to twist it off. Ex 12" pipe wrench vs 48" pipe wrench

[Sea Hage]

Your thinking is backwards. You are still turning the drill with a 12" pipe wrench no matter how long the bit is.

[lungdeflator]

Tightening a bolt: which will get it tighter short or long wrench? Which will be easier to twist off the bolt head? Longer wrench requires less torque to do the same work, but has the potential to more damage

[Redlineracer12]

Tightening a bolt: which will get it tighter short or long wrench? Which will be easier to twist off the bolt head? Longer wrench requires less torque to do the same work, but has the potential to more damage

That's true, but your analogy is not quite right. If you want to compare it to bolts/wrenches. It's more like turning a longer bolt (auger bit) with the exact same wrench (powerhead).

[Sea Hage]

Yup

[Hawg]

JSK, what was her reasoning for that answer? Doesn't seem to make sense.

[lungdeflator]

Ok that makes more sense, thanks.

[jerkbait]

Smart thinking. No problem using a double extension up here on the lake. 3.5 feet of ice already, still lots of time to go .

Preety amazing. Down here on LOTW we have anywherer from 16-27 inches of ice. Just lots of snow on the ice. Do you have much snow up there?

[cam white]

Heavy snow pack this year. Going to be a bad spring.

[ZapMan]

I have 2 extensions (18" and 12") that I have put together to drill from my camper that does not drop down during late/thick ice. Haven't had a problem except for getting it tipped down the hole and starting the hole. Its a 2 person job!

[Sea Hage]

Zap, Let me know when you're gonna drill a hole, I would like to watch.. LOL must be something to see with 2 1/2 feet more auger.

[Ron Vroom]

http://youtu.be/3Y-k-cX7rTE

AAbove link should help answer your question

[Hawg]

I asked ION people yesterday about the 2 extensions voiding warranty and they did say it would. I think they are doing everything they can to protect the integrity of the original product. It's brand new and the critics that don't own one pile on posts like drowning rats on a log. I'm going to get the Clam extension for mine, but I see no physics that would hurt putting 2 of theirs together. They don't want the critic's to have any additional ammunition till these things are proven by time. I have no complaints, mine is everything I expected it to be. Even after my buddies make fun of mine they still ask to borrow it when we move spots.

[aanderud]

I'm going to get the Clam extension for mine, but I see no physics that would hurt putting 2 of theirs together.

I won't be critical specifically of the Ion auger here, but I will I will refute your assertion that they can't be hurt by putting 2 together, from a physics perspective.

Any auger I've used has a spiral flighting to move the shavings from the bottom of the hole to the top, and as they get above the top of the ice, the shavings spill off into the sides. The auger's engine/motor design has to be strong enough such that it can handle the weight/friction from a particular amount of ice shavings -- that is, the amount which will fit inside the flighting at most. Any extra ice would be dumped off on the side of the hole and cause no friction/torque issues for the engine.

With two extensions -- which have no flighting to lift the ice chips out of the hole -- you're causing potentially multiple pounds of ADDITIONAL ice chips to be sitting on TOP of the flighting, but still inside the hole. This will cause more energy to be used in the engine/motor, since it is now fighting not just the normal fources it was designed for, but this additional friction created by the ice turning in the hole above the flighting, and the additional friction under the auger created by the additional weight of that ice pushing down on the flighting, and thus pushing down on the blades. The blades may even start cutting more aggressively due to this weight -- which on some augers is not a good thing (nilsmaster, strikemaster, and I presume Ion).

I'm not saying that you'll for sure have an issue with an extension -- but you're more likely to have one than you would be without the extensions. THAT is probably why they void the warranty.

[Fred_Bear]

Just clear the ice chips a couple times before you break through...

[Ron Vroom]

Duh, right on!

[aanderud]

Just clear the ice chips a couple times before you break through...