New AIS law

[LMITOUT]

that stupid class amendment or whatever has been flying around by some stuffed shirt for awhile. i cant believe anyone would support something that insane.

[amateurfishing]

i'm interested in this "not allowing to trailer the boat" part if you dont pass inspection....are they going to "force" you to stay there and not leave with your boat until you can answer questions/pass test? or am i mis interpreting something?

[Scott K]

What is it with all you negative people out there? Why all of the hate? We need to all come together and accept and love AIS as a group. It isnt politically correct to single out something and not allow it in our waters. Now say it with me "I will learn, love, and respect AIS as it is one of my own"

Really though, when is it going to stop? I am pretty sure they are crossing the line all over with this. Illegal searches, now mandatory! No longer random spots, but all over, and not just by landings. Want to trailer your boat? You need to take a class, and get a sticker, want to put your boat in the water? you need a sticker. That bait cooler that is sealed, and has a lid on it, that has no way of getting lake water in it, sorry drain all that water out, cant transport it. You want bait? Cant catch it your sel, you need to buy it, oh and have a receipt for it as well.

Whats next?? If I was an out of stater and was looking at all of the hassle to come here and fish, I wouldnt. I would look at the many pages of rules and regualtions, and all of the new added laws, and say no thank you! In fact, I am getting to the point, I may just sell my boat, and go fish pay lakes from now on. No stickers needed.

[Desperado]

What is it with all you negative people out there? Why all of the hate? We need to all come together and accept and love AIS as a group.

I've been wondering how long it would be until someone finally invoked the Rodney King doctrine on this one

[reinhard1]

the 2% still apply's as far as i know. i have always said i was against road side stops. i dont care for the stickers, but i can live with them. i also knew about this stupid class when it first apeared in the fish wrap called the tribune. it was insane then and insane now. Monday i will be doing some calling around to see where this is going. i was told today that the so called classes are not in the picture at this time. doesn't mean it's not comming down the pipe. but i will be doing more than complaining on here, although it's important to get the word out with outrageous things like these "classes". we are not children and shouln't be treated as such and i will get in touch with my political friends i have worked with in the past to get the word out. i would ask everyone out there to do the same. good luck.

[reinhard1]

call DNR information at 651-296-6157. then ask to talk to someone regarding your AIS issue. they will connect you to someone. they will give you the information you want. good luck.

[mabr]

Limit, How about posting a link for all of us to read on this. I'm with you on this. No one wants to believe it could happen then when its does they just accept it.

If its true we all need to be writing our representatives ASAP and screaming as loud as we can.

[LMITOUT]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=ccrhf2164.html&session=ls87

Quote:

Sec. 21. [86B.13] AQUATIC INVASIVE SPECIES PREVENTION PROGRAM.

16.28 Subdivision 1. Establishment. The commissioner shall establish a statewide course

16.29in preventing the spread of aquatic invasive species. The commissioner must develop an

16.30educational course and testing program that address identification of aquatic invasive

16.31species and best practices to prevent the spread of aquatic invasive species when moving

16.32water-related equipment, as defined under section 84D.01, subdivision 18a.

17.1 Subd. 2. Aquatic invasive species trailer decal. The commissioner shall issue an

17.2aquatic invasive species trailer decal for each trailer owned by a person that satisfactorily

17.3completes the required course of instruction.

17.4 Subd. 3. Contracting for services. The commissioner may contract for services to

17.5provide training and testing services under this section.

17.6 Subd. 4. Aquatic invasive species trailer decal display required. (a) A person

17.7may not transport watercraft or water-related equipment, as defined under section 84D.01,

17.8subdivision 18a, with a trailer unless the person has an aquatic invasive species trailer

17.9decal issued under this section. Temporary authorizations valid for seven days can be

17.10requested by persons that have not completed the required course of instruction.

17.11( Aquatic invasive species trailer decals are valid for three years.

17.12© The aquatic invasive species trailer decal must be adhered to the side of the trailer

17.13frame tongue near the hitch in a manner that it is readily visible and does not interfere with

17.14the display of any registration requirements under section 169.79.

17.15(d) Aquatic invasive species trailer decals are not transferable.

17.16(e) Violation of this section shall not result in a penalty, but is punishable only

17.17by a warning.

17.18EFFECTIVE DATE.Subdivision 4 is effective July 1, 2015.

BTW, the definition of "water-related equipment" is as follows:

Subd. 18a.Water-related equipment. "Water-related equipment" means a motor vehicle, boat, watercraft, dock, boat lift, raft, vessel, trailer, tool, implement, device, or any other associated equipment or container, including but not limited to portable bait containers, live wells, ballast tanks except for those vessels permitted under the Pollution Control Agency vessel discharge program, bilge areas, and water-hauling equipment that is capable of containing or transporting aquatic invasive species, aquatic macrophytes, or water.

[mabr]

ThanksLimit, I just spent an hour scanning the bills you have down in silly town and It opened my eyes to alot.

Ok so now were going to have to register out bait buckets, have a sticker attached to them that is good for 3 years, not transferable and take a test to prove we are capable to determine what an invasive species is!

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!

[Scott K]

the 2% still apply's as far as i know. i have always said i was against road side stops. i dont care for the stickers, but i can live with them. i also knew about this stupid class when it first apeared in the fish wrap called the tribune. it was insane then and insane now. Monday i will be doing some calling around to see where this is going. i was told today that the so called classes are not in the picture at this time. doesn't mean it's not comming down the pipe. but i will be doing more than complaining on here, although it's important to get the word out with outrageous things like these "classes". we are not children and shouln't be treated as such and i will get in touch with my political friends i have worked with in the past to get the word out. i would ask everyone out there to do the same. good luck.

Put in a bad word for it from me as well!

[Scott K]

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!

You took the words out of my mouth!

[Lunch_box]

....when you pick up your licence and get the sticker just put the bottom portion on your trailer by the winch [it's small and only reminds you to pull the plug and put it back it too] and the other part just put it in a zip plastic bag and have it handy in case someone asks to see it. good luck.

I was at Grays Bay launch earlier this week and got the full treatment from one of the DNR reps. He made it very clear to me several times that the top portion of the sticker must be attached to the boat in a place visible to authorities if I was asked to show it. When I challenged him for a location for that ridiculous sticker he said I could stick it on the back side of my glove box door. He added the bottom portion of the sticker is not required to be attached and is not required under the current law.

[Sonicrunch]

War

Murder

Oppression

yet, some of you think a sticker is the beginning of the end. Perhaps you should adjust your tinfoil hat a bit. The gov't satellite rays might be getting through.

[snowfighter]

Not yet...

"Minnesota's 800,000 boaters would be subject to mandatory boat inspections for invasive species before launching their craft, under a bill approved Thursday by a House-Senate conference committee.

The bill also requires boat owners to pass a course on how to prevent the spread of aquatic invasive species before they could trailer their boats anywhere. Those hauling other water-related equipment, such as docks or boat lifts, also would have to pass the course. When I bought my new boat this spring I was talking to the salemen about the new sticker and the course he said they were going to have to go to a 2 hour training course but thought it was just for people in the sales.

[reinhard1]

as far as the bottom of the sticker, it says right on the bottom portion of the sticker "cut below and place bottom portion on trailer near winch". so maby some conservation people need to take a class. a lot of this stuff right now is obviously confusing to many of us right now as this program is starting up.

on the conference committee's report stating all the various regs it appears to me that the effective date for some of these programs dont start till July of 2015. as far as this stupid "class" or "course" it says "the commissioner shall establish a statewide course in preventing the spread of aquatic invasive species. the commissioner must develope a educational course and testing program that address identification of aquatic invasive species and best practices to prevent the spread of aquatic invasive species when moving water related equipment as defined under section 840.01 subdivision 18a. then it says an aquatic invasive spicies trailer decal shall be issued after completing the course."

that is the part of the conference report i'm going to address first to my rep. i am going to request a letter from her with a full explanation of the statute as far as these classes. it's these classes that irritate me the most. i also want to know if it's true that these stickers will be in effect for only three years and then what happens. new stickers? i already have said stickers, but will i be issued new ones after a idiotic class? at 16 cents per sticker per 800,000 boater that would be a repedative cost wasted by anyones imagination.

so i have called numerous times regarding this issue, being told one thing and reading another. i want to get the facts, and i want to get it from people makeing these laws, not enforcing them.

the boat checks at the landings, the limited road side checks, and the stickers and all the things like pulling the plugs and removing the weeds ect i can live with. however if more stickers and stupid classes come into play, that will be the line in the sand i will demand the state to stop the foolishness and get real. good luck.

[BobT]

i wish people who are complaining about stickers and other things like taking classes mentioned in some article would call the people in charge of this program. i called for the price of the sticker--16cents each. i called about some classes people are talking about--there are no such classes required i was told. Geeez--why dont people just buy your licence, get your stickers, follow the law, and go fishing. if you have a problem go round up all the "stickeranti's" head down to the capitol and demonstrate. for me nothing will change. i will go fishing and enjoy every minute of it. good luck.

$0.16 each may seem like small potatoes but with approximately 840,000 boats registered in MN that adds up to about $135,000.00 in annual revenue. I wonder how much more effective it would be to use that money toward additional help or research?

[crawler harness]

as far as the bottom of the sticker' date=' it says right on the bottom portion of the sticker "cut below and place bottom portion on trailer near winch". so maby some conservation people need to take a class. a lot of this stuff right now is obviously confusing to many of us right now as this program is starting up.

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You do not need to attach the bottom part to the trailer, it is recommended to do so, that way you may see it and remember to put your drain plug in before you launch again. That is the bad part about the sticker is the only directions that are on it are for the bottom part which is optional.

[reinhard1]

ya, you would think the braintrust who designed this would have a few words on the top of the sticker stating where to place it. just says must be attached to the boat. at that point the questions begin as stated in many previous posts on this issue. i actualy like the bottom of the sticker. there are a few times i appreciate the reminder to put the plug back in the boat. i dont think i have ever forgotton to pull the plug. good luck.

[reinhard1]

someone wanted to know what the stickers cost, so i found out and posted it. i agree with the waste of money on this but it is what it is and they have been printed so at this point i can live with it. but i cant live with future stickers and especialy being treated like a child with these classes proposed in the conference report. i would think many anglers would call their reps a give them a earfull. just another government program they are trying to slide in there. good luck.

[Juneau4]

At 16 cents a boat to make sure everyone has the information it seems cheap to me. Some need to quit P&M and put the stickers where ever they want and live with it.

[Scott K]

.16 seems cheap. But add in the remaining costs of the stickers. Shipping them to varios places, trining for the CO's, the many phone calls, etc..

840,000 is just the registered boats, that doesnt include duck boats, paddle boats, rafts, other floaties they are saying it needs them. Even if it JUST $135,000 that the stickers cost, and I highly doubt that, that is what, 3-4 more CO's they could pay their salaries with.

Then you have to add in the new trailer sticker, the cost of this class/course, the boat washes, people to man the car washes and inspections. How much "EXTRA" money they have laying around for these project? Just remember, this isnt going to prevent anything, just maybe slow it down. MAYBE!

RH, I appreciate the fact you are getting info about this, and being the AIS spokesman of sort, and I apolagize if any of my comments seem harsh towards you, or anyone else, other then the GOVT, and the DNR that support this be-es.

The actual cost of all these new rules may not actually be seen for a couple years, when fishermen stop fishing, and boating because of the hassle. Wait until they start handing out tickets to your 4 time a year fishermen. Then we will start seeing the loss of revenue from license sales, boat tabs, etc.. But thats ok, they can then just raise the cost up more so the remaining have to pay for it.

[Scott K]

At 16 cents a boat to make sure everyone has the information it seems cheap to me. Some need to quit P&M and put the stickers where ever they want and live with it.

You think this sticker is going to train anyone? Or stop them from doing the things they have done all along?

If you get the sticker from your local DMV, or bait shop etc.. they tell you, you have to put this on your boat, so you do, what did you learn from it? Nothing! I may seem totally against this, and I am, but I actually am careful to not transfer stuff to other waters. I know what s good, and bad, and I do care. I know what the intention, and the laws are. Just think about your average fishermen that doesnt go online and talk on fishing boards, or pick up the yearly 100+ page rule book, and growing daily may I add, that dont read it. How is this sticker going to do them any good? They will slap the sticker on their boat, maybe, then fish as usual. That is why I think eduacation is the best way, not some stupid sticker, or stickers, which it looks like that is the DNR's way of dealing with laws now. It is a good thing the DMV doesnt do that with cars, we wouldnt have to have paint, because the car would be covered with stickers for each law.

[reinhard1]

i'm more worried for what's ahead. my posts have only been "favorable" with this program [as it stands today] because it seems to be set and there is little we can do about it except live with it.

as it stands it realy wont dissrupt anything for me. do the basics, put the famouse sticker on and enjoy my time out. however this proposed class and more stickers on the way [every three years] as i read it is not going to cut it with me. i have helped a few campaines over the years and now it's time for these candidates to deal with this issue before it gets out of hand.

money has been spent and wasted on some of this in my opinion. but that's history now. now we look at the future. i will not support anymore stickers, classes, or roadside checks. we have all been informed with plenty of signs at the landing, with stickers, with information in the regs, and now with more people checking us at landings. if after all of that and someone doesn't pull the plug or drain their livewells, or pull excess visable weeds off their trailer than ticket them but leave the rest of us alone in the future.

good luck.

[Alagnak]

How many languages are all these initiatives printed on anyway? If someone cant understand it, its not gonna do much good either. Example: regs book :-/

As we know there are probably many more English speaking sportsmen that just choose to not read or disregard. In any case, there lots of holes. It's cool though because theres other people's money to waste to make some desk jockies and lake associations feel good.

[danlatt1]

BOOM! There is the answer everyone is looking for right there. Hold everybody acountable from now on.

Place the sticker and if you cant follow the law pay the fine no warning. And if you go to court to try and fight it the judge can laugh from now on because of AIS stickers.