Spring Turkey hunting license question

[Musky hunter 82]

So I'm planning on hunting area 507, and if I'm reading the regs. right I can buy an over the counter tag for time peroid E-H. And if I'm going to bow hunt I can hunt time peroids E-H. Is there a limit to the numbers of permits that they are going to sell during these time peroids or is it unlimited?

Thank you

[Archerysniper]

Unlimited permits

[Powerstroke]

Unlimited permits but there is still a limit of one bird per person.

[Hoyt4]

Musky Hunter

Archery season only tag

Archery only licenses for 2012 are valid for the last four time periods, May 8-31. Winners in the lottery are not eligible to purchase archery only permits.

You can buy at any time for this tag over the counter. I might even think about this. Giving you almost a month to fill that bow tag.

[Musky Buck]

More turkey ?'s can I apply in 2 different areas like 507 and 508 ? I'm assuming not. Here's the deal. I had to decide on area 507 with less birds around or area 508 with a ton of them around. Area 507 C if drawn I'll have time to hunt there, but if I'm seeing the same herd of Toms in area 508 do I have to buy the license for area 507 ? Or if drawn in 507 can I forgo getting a license for that area and just buy an over the counter for 508 ? Part of the deal is in area 508 if I would've applied it was season D as my only option and the next week it's over the counter time anyway, I hope you get my drift with this mess. Why I did season C 507 is who knows at this time of the year where they'll be come April, if my dad says yep they're here and drawn I'll do 507, if I chose 508 it was season D close a few days away from over the counter and this is year 1 that we've seen turkeys in this area so they could move on and leave the section altogether by April. Anyway ?

[Hoyt4]

You can only get drawn for one zone and hunt one zone so you will have to make that choice soon.

I'm not sure how the new zones will work for Archery season this year. In the past you just needed 50 permits in that zone and could hunt multiple zones one the archery tag. With the new combinged zones I'm not sure yet how that will work. I could not find anything on line only the new rules.

[Musky Buck]

right on hoyt, how about ? # 2, if I get drawn in area 507, but the birds are thick at my farm in 508, can I not buy a license in 507 and just over the counter in 508 ? I want to scout and then buy my license at the last minute for 507 if drawn and if nothing is around I'd like to skip 507 and wait a week and over the counter in area 508.

[Archerysniper]

If you are drawn for a zone that is your only choice.

[Powerstroke]

You cannot apply for one zone, get drawn for it, then change your mind and hunt a different zone. If you apply for the lottery and get drawn for that zone, that is the only zone you can hunt for that season.

If you're concerned about having to choose where to hunt, then wait and buy an over the counter tag. Once you choose a zone and apply to the lottery you are locked into that zone for the season unless you don't get picked, in which case you will buy the OTC that you want anyway.

[Musky Buck]

I wish I could get to the lottery headquarters and destroy my lottery choice lol. Please don't draw my name for 507. Just a wish out loud. Thanks for the information.

[arrow]

The DNR had a system that worked perfectly fine and my first impressions of this new zoning and permit system is it appears to be a disaster for the public land hunter. The old system that followed deer zones kept everyone spread out. These large zones and vast numbers of permits per zone will create huge crowds on some of the available public lands that have turkeys in our state. For those who have access to private land its a great deal but I would guess that the majority of hunters in this state don't have that luxury. Was there a huge outcry to change the system? If there was I certainly don't remember reading or hearing anything.

[Gordie]

I just applied for 507 I'll take yourt preferance points Musky Buck

Good Luck Guys

[Musky Buck]

You can have em Gordie lol, pull into the yard last night and the 21 pack of toms is now a 25 pack, plus I get to wash the roof as 3 of them were sitting just above the kitchen where I plan to cook 1 of them. The reason I didn't apply in 508 is because the only season that works for me is D and following that is over-the-counter anyway, but my dad wants me to dust a bird at his place in 507, only problem is he hasn't seen a turkey since July there, but so hard to say come April where they'll be. Maybe lol I can get a turkey depredation permit lol, they're making a mess on my house/siding, my bird feeder is a mess, they even are jumping up into my suet tray and pounding what little seed I put in it. Depredation isn't the correct word lol, what a bunch of turkeys. Cool thing is some with the longest beards don't have the longest spurs, some with long spurs don't have the greatest of beards, I kinda thought those 2 things would go hand in hand but after much watching, that isn't always the case.

[strait-meat]

What would you guys recommend for a person that has access to hunt private land that has been holding about 40-50 turkeys on? Applied for lottery or just buy otc license. It is in area 507

[DonBo]

Apply for an earlier season, then if you don't draw, just buy the OTC tag for a later season.

[strait-meat]

Are the otc tags just leftover tags or will there be some no matter what for the last 4 seasons?

[Deep]

3 years ago I was drawn for A season, something came up where I could not hunt then. I just went and bought a OTC license for a later season.

When did the law come into effect that you had to buy that license for when you were drawn?

[Powerstroke]

Deep, that law has always been in effect. The computer system does not restrict you from buying a different license, because it is not the job of the licenses seller to regulate hunters.

It is the job of the hunter to know the laws and comply with them.

[Deep]

I have been through the turkey regulation two times and can not find where you have to buy a license if you were drawn for that season.

I did see that you can only hunt in the permit area and time that your license is good for after purchasing it.

Power Stroke or someone, could you direct me to where that is written?

Thanks. Deep

[Powerstroke]

Well, it was my understanding that was the law, but I also can find nothing that says that. It seems to me that if you apply for a tag and are drawn than you have been awarded a license. Just because you didn't buy it doesn't mean you don't have that license spoken for. Unpurchased licenses are not released as surplus tags.

I suppose the only way to answer this would be to contact the DNR.

[Deep]

Thanks Powerstroke, I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. The E.L.S. is good about not letting you buy a license that you have not been drawn for. Deep

[Powerstroke]

It is true the ELS will not sell you a tag you weren't drawn for, but they will sell an OTC tag to you if you want it. Their system doesn't track how many licenses you've bought, so it is up to you to know.

[Hoyt4]

Deep, You got by by a mistake. You are only allowed the time your drawn for. If you do not plan on hunting that time period do not apply. You are taking away a chance for other hunters who can hunt that time period. That tag went unused

Contact the DNR this site is not the bible but you will get the same response. You can not purchase another tag later after being drawn for another time.

From what I can find on the MN DNR about OTC. It states for people who were UNsuccessful in the drawing may purchase first come first served basis for the OTC permits.

Then after that people who did not apply will be able to purchase a tag.

From just reading those few lines that tells you that you are not applicable for getting another permit you already had the tag and that makes you not eligible for another choice.

I'm sure others some how snuck by also. Would be nice if the ELS system just flagged that so things like this did not happen. People just at times don't know going in to it and the people working the sales do not know.

[sticknstring]

I agree, when they scan your DL, all that information should pop up. However, the underlying issue would be the trained sales people that can interpret the info properly. It would be the same as people applying for bear tags & not purchasing the licenses. If you apply & are drawn, I don't believe you can purchase any other license except for what you were drawn for. If you're unsure, don't apply and get an OTC tag.

[brittman]

The DNR had a system that worked perfectly fine and my first impressions of this new zoning and permit system is it appears to be a disaster for the public land hunter. The old system that followed deer zones kept everyone spread out. These large zones and vast numbers of permits per zone will create huge crowds on some of the available public lands that have turkeys in our state. For those who have access to private land its a great deal but I would guess that the majority of hunters in this state don't have that luxury. Was there a huge outcry to change the system? If there was I certainly don't remember reading or hearing anything.

The new system is the only way the DNR could sell more licenses.