NBA LOTTERY

[A R Johnson]

I feel stupid for asking this, but when is it going to be on t.v. tonight?

[toughguy]

ESPN 7:30 CDT. Spoiler alert: Wolves will pick third.

[A R Johnson]

Whats the farthest they can fall?

[CJH]

Spoiler alert: Wolves will pick third.

Ain't that the truth!!!

[toughguy]

They can fall as far as 4th. In fact the best odds are for the 4th pick.

From StarTrib:

No. 1 pick: 25 percent

No. 2 pick: 21.51 percent

No. 3 pick: 17.77 percent

No. 4 pick: 35.72 percent

In the 17 years the NBA has been running the current draft lottery system, the team with the best odds to win the top pick has only done so twice -- Cleveland in 2003 (LeBron James) and Orlando in 2004 (Dwight Howard).

The thing has to be rigged.

1992: The Wolves had the worst record but fell to third in the lottery. Orlando jumped to No. 1 and picked Shaquille O'Neal and Charlotte took Alonzo Mourning at No. 2. That left the Wolves to take Christian Laettner.

1993: The Wolves finished with the second-worst record but finished fifth in the lottery and chose Isaiah Rider.

1994: The Wolves fell from third to fourth and picked Donyell Marshall after Glenn Robinson, Jason Kidd and Grant Hill had been taken.

A history of horrors II

The Wolves have never chosen first or second in the draft. Here is a breakdown of Wolves' lottery positions and drafts:

No. 3: Twice. Christian Laettner (1992); O.J. Mayo (2008, who was traded to Memphis in the Kevin Love deal).

No. 4: Twice. Donyell Marshall (1994); Wes Johnson (2010).

No. 5: Four times. Isaiah Rider (1993); Kevin Garnett (1995); Ray Allen (1996, who was traded to Milwaukee in the Stephon Marbury deal); Ricky Rubio (2009, with a pick acquired in a trade with Washington).

No. 6: Four times. Felton Spencer (1990); Wally Szczerbiak (1999, in a pick obtained in a trade with New Jersey); Brandon Roy (2006, who was traded to Portland in the Randy Foye deal); Jonny Flynn (2009).

No. 7: Twice. Luc Longley (1991); Corey Brewer (2007).

No. 14: Once. Rashad McCants (2005).

[ozzie]

this is always such a dissapointing day but I keep hope alive and maybe this year they will have pity on us and finally forgive glen for the under the table Joe Smith debacle!!! Glad I can't watch it as I have other things going on............

[Rick]

It's kind of sad when the team with the most riches in the lottery gets Rose. Funny how they do things like that for lakers...celtics...bulls...etc.

NBA is kind of......sad

[CJH]

The thing has to be rigged.

There is a reason they don't show the actual drawing on air, just open the envelopes with the "results".

I used to have season tickets to the TWolves and hardly ever even watch the NBA anymore.

[Walleyed_Trout]

Of all the years for the Wolves to get the #1 pick this will be it....because there is no clear cut top player in the draft (A bunch of guys that should be picked (3-8) AND once they pick they will promptly be locked out by the owners. This lockout from what I've heard stands to be worse than the NFL one and there is a good chance games will be missed. So in a weird way it might actually be a blessing to fall to the 4th pick this year.

[Scott K]

Well the Wolves got #2, Cleveland gets #1.

[Scott M]

The streak continues. I'd like a statistician to give me the odds of drafted at or below your slated position for all of their lottery years. Derrick Williams to the Woffies?

[toughguy]

I'd be happy with Derek Williams. Now we just need to get that Spaniard over here. They might win 30 games next year!!!

[PurpleFloyd]

LOL

I think Kahn is going to get lighter in the wallet.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2...ix-fine-on-way/

Quote:

What can get you in more trouble with David Stern than saying his referees are biased?

Saying the NBA Draft Lottery is fixed.

Which is pretty much what Minnesota Timberwolves GM David Kahn did after the lottery (where his team with the worst record fell to the No. 2 spot). Cleveland won the top spot. Cavs owner Dan Gilbert had sent as a team representative his 14-year-old son Nick, who is battling Neurofibromatosis, a disease that causes the body’s nerves to grow potentially cancerous tumors.

“This league has a habit, and I am just going to say habit, of producing some pretty incredible story lines,” Kahn said. “Last year it was Abe Pollin’s widow and this year it was a 14-year-old boy and the only thing we have in common is we have both been bar mitzvahed. We were done. I told Kevin: ‘We’re toast.’ This is not happening for us and I was right.”

[Scott K]

Good for him! I think its time for some change, I mean really, how can they really have the lottery done like this?

[toughguy]

But the results are audited by Ernst and Young... How dare we question them.

[Scott K]

What is the purpose of having it done behind closed doors? Is there any good reason?

[toughguy]

I think it's because it would be anticlimactic. I think they draw 3 balls for spots 1-3 and the rest of the teams fall into place. That way they can't list the teams from the bottom up. I would still rather they show it live.

[B. Amish]

the draft lottery, refs that admit to fixing games, poor sportmamship, thugs, their biggest stars acting like spoiled babies.

there are way more reasons to not care about the nba than vice versa.

[mrklean]

not surprised they didnt get #1 Kahn said it best they were toast with that kid from Cleveland

[Scott K]

That and all of the bad feeling with Lebron leaving them, they had to make it up to them.

[mrklean]

haha i would love to see a team sue the NBA over the draft

[ozzie]

well what is wrong with David Kahn then that he couldn't find some big sob story to represent the team at the draft and get us the #1 pick? maybe he is waiting till next year when there might be some better talent...........but I like #2

[Juan Grande]

Yeah, I'm not going to complain. At least we didn't fall to #3 or 4 like we usually would. Cleveland sucked almost as bad as we did.

It will be interesting to see what the do with the pick. Chad Ford (ESPN) compared Derrick Williams to David West. Kind of and undersized 4 that relies on his outside shooting for points.

[toughguy]

IF Kahn is looking for a sob story to sit in for the 2012 lotto he should send a Wolves season ticket holder.

[ozzie]

IF Kahn is looking for a sob story to sit in for the 2012 lotto he should send a Wolves season ticket holder.

haha classic!!