Final 10 Laps

[SkunkedAgain]

Tell me how crazy my idea sounds:

NASCAR should implement a rule that severely restricts the use of yellow flags in the final fifteen laps.

It seems like every week, someone is leading a race and then the dreaded yellow flag comes out with 8-12 laps to go. Gordon was only the latest to fall victim. If there is a spin out or a car into the wall but clear, let them race. I understand that fluids and debris can cause more wrecks but it seems like these minor mishaps keep changing the outcomes of races.

Thoughts? Alternate proposals?

[Longline]

I have been thinking that under 10 laps to go that caution laps shouldn't count. That would keep them from having to red flag and might make less Green White Checkers.

[Juneau4]

Nascar's way to keep the T.V. audience. It's all about the $.

[harvey lee]

I don't know if that would be the best. Where on the track is there a safe place for a dead car to sit and not be in harms way or for that matter, to be safe for a driver?

Lets say a car is in a position that looks to be safe and then there is another accident close and one car swerves to miss that and then hits the dead car. Not good for the driver in the dead car.

In regards to parts or fluids on the racing surface, it easily could cause another accident.

I understand what you are saying but I am not willing to throw caution in the wind and say, let er go.

I just don't see NASCAR saying let the race go with parts or crashed cars lying on the racing surface.

I would agree with not counting the cautions while they clean the track or accident up. Resume the race at the lap when the caution came out. Now thats a great idea.

Juneau, I tend to believe its all about safety and not the almighty dollar.

I have to believe if that was you sitting in a crashed car on the track while others were still racing at 150mph, you would not want to be the one sitting in the car.

I guess maybe my viewpoint comes from a family who races and knows how unsafe that would be.

[LightningBG]

Harvey, what if the car went down into the infield grass, lets say 100-200 ft off the track?

[harvey lee]

If that car could go 100 ft then why could another not also go there? Thats only 30 yards.

Why would one want to let a car sit 30 yards of the track and have another door slam them in the drivers door at who knows what mph.

Not safe at all. I would not want to be the one sitting there nor do I believe another would either.

I realize that racing can be dangerous but why create another hazard? It could kill a driver.

[tunrevir]

I tend to agree with Harvey here. I'd much rather see a driver live to race another day then to be hurt due to debris or crash due to oil or something on the track. I like the idea of holding the lap count at whatever it may be when the caution flies and racing from there after the green flies again. Might make it a bit more interesting for the guys gambling on fuel mileage. I hate those kinds of races but it is a strategy that has won many a driver their first race.

Tunrevir~

[lawdog]

I'm totally with Harvey Lee. I think all ten last laps of green would be cool, but honestly they way those guys race the green white checkers finishes we'd never get done with ten lap dashes! Maybe two attempts at a ten lap sprint then one more green white checker? I do think the green white checker is way too short of a run to decide a 500 lap race...

[gregg52]

i'd hate to be nascar and have to try and keep everybody happy!!!

tough tough job

everybody but the man (or the incharge people )know better!!!

[harvey lee]

I do believe NASCAR needs to run a race as safe as possible and still have it fun to watch.

They also need to keep the sponsors happy.

Thats would be a huge undertaking. NASCAR will never keep all happy nor could anyone doing anything.

[Rippinlip]

Institute a different line-up as a green flag drops with less than 10 laps to go, go back to a single file re-start, maybe that is being done. LEAVE the lap cars where they are. If they were in between the leader and the 2nd place driver before the caution flew, put them back in there.

WOO Sprint laws do that and it works out.

If the leader has a 3-4 second lead at the time of caution, try to figure out a way that he gets that lead at the re-start.

I agree with Harvey about not tossing caution to the wind, but I do not like how a person is so darn dominate and always seems like they never win it due to this late caution.

[LMITOUT]

Double file restarts are one of the best changes they've made! Leave that one alone. Nothing more frustrating than watching lead lap cars racing for the win while dealing with lap down cars clogging up the front of the pack.

[harvey lee]

Double file restarts may be cool but do cause many more accidents.

[gregg52]

i guess i wouldnt mind if they just didnt count yellows the last 10 laps

if they wreck on the white its over

not 3 trys at wining a race after 4-500 laps

might just as well have 25 lap features

[harvey lee]

I totally agree gregg52.

[candiru]

I would like to see them park the multiple lap down cars with 10 to go. (more on short tracks). It seems many times that the cautions are brought out by cars that are patched-up or not contending.

[harvey lee]

How about this. Any caution with 10 left to go will line up in the order they are running.

First place will be out front. Then 2nd and 3rd wil be the first row. Then 4th & 5th in row two and so on until the last row.

Now, we try this 2 times and once all have taken the white lap, the race is over.

I believe they call this a Delaware start. No lap cars in the way of the start.

[Juneau4]

If there is a caution with 10 laps or less left: park all cars not on the lead lap and line them up single file and let them race to the finish.

[harvey lee]

With the points system the way it is set up, the lap cars would probably need to finish for total points. Some races at times may only have half the field on the lead lap.

[Rippinlip]

I do think they need to have 1 rule instituted in NASCAR or any lapped racing.

Once you have reached a point in the race where you have surpassed the laps left compared to the ones you are down you are officially taken off the track.

E.G. if you are 40 laps down, once there is 39 laps left you are black flagged and removed from the track, at that point you can gain no more positions and finish where you are at.

If there are multiple cars on the same lap as you, the places are already figured in as you cross the finish line.

[harvey lee]

I think the lapped cars have to have a chance to get back on the lead lap. Many have done it and still won the race. They may have been in a bad spot and the accident was not their fault.

[gregg52]

i agree with multiply lap down i dont think the drivers like riding around

out there either give em all certain amount points after 30th or something like that be done

besides some of these guys take pretty hard hits then go back out there

maybe not really needed

as i said under 10 to go dont count the laps

if you wreck with 3 to go its still g..w...c whats the difference

i dont think this 3 trys suff is racing..its kinda more of a luck deal

double line ups are good no laped cars up there

[SkunkedAgain]

With Rippinlip's plan, lapped cars could get back in place for a win. If you're only one lap down, you would be black flagged until the final lap...and you're not going to pass the field at any track in one lap. It's not a bad system IMO.

[harvey lee]

I agree in one lap you probably won't win. But you could gain 5-10 positions for a much better finish points wise.

I do not see NASCAR sending cars to the infield with a few laps to go.