McNabb to skins

[mrklean]

no thread yet on the McNabb to skins trade??

[eyehunter]

Unless he got traded to the Vikings....Who cares?? Mcnabb is probably one of the most underrated QB's in the league and now he gets traded to the Redskins?? He deserved better than that. Hopefully it will only end up being a 1 year gig for him and then he can go to a team where he would have a chance to get that ring that he deserves. He won't get it with the Redskins, even with Shanahan at the helm. They have one of the worst offensive lines in the league and their receivers are just as bad.

[mrklean]

haha thats what i was thinkin, the vike guys didnt care cause he didnt come here

[eyehunter]

What I meant was that Philly did him wrong by trading him to a sub 500 team, he has been one of the only bright spots on that team and a guy that you don't hear the crying and moaning from like some of the other high profile players. He deserves to be on a team that wants him and can give him a good run at a title....Washington is not that team.

[DTro]

I think there might be a side story in why he didn't come here

[lawdog]

If Chilly didn't know #4 is coming back and made no effort at McNabb then he's a complete dolt! So either #4 is back, or this confirms everything we've feared about Chilly!!!

[JBMasterAngler]

I'm surprised that philly traded him to a division rival. The fact that the redskins hired shanahan automatically gave them 2 more wins, now that they got mcnabb they've received 2 more automatic wins. Looks like the vikings know who they'll be playing in the NFC championship next year

[BrianLucky13]

Im not a fan of McNabb and never will be. Gonna be interesting with him at the skins. If they have a bad season it wont be because of him though. They have a lot of changes going on over there!!

[mrklean]

you know if you really look at his stats there not the greatest, he had a few really monster years but nothing super great like Favre who averages 20+ TDs every year and 3500-4000 yards. McNabb and Westbrook made a great one two punch but i dont know i have never been to impressed with him

[SkunkedAgain]

Sure, but nobody is comparing McNabb to Favre. They are very different quarterbacks and Favre wins for sure. The real issue is a succession plan. That was always the problem for the Packers and now the Vikings have to figure out what to do after Favre is gone, either this year or the next. We all saw the difference between a Favre-led team almost making the Super Bowl and a Tavaris-led team that can almost tie its own shoes.

The Vikings have nobody in the hopper so at the moment, they are relying on the ability to trade for another veteran QB if Favre leaves or is injured.

[zepman]

Sure, but nobody is comparing McNabb to Favre. They are very different quarterbacks and Favre wins for sure. The real issue is a succession plan. That was always the problem for the Packers and now the Vikings have to figure out what to do after Favre is gone, either this year or the next. We all saw the difference between a Favre-led team almost making the Super Bowl and a Tavaris-led team that can almost tie its own shoes.

The Vikings have nobody in the hopper so at the moment, they are relying on the ability to trade for another veteran QB if Favre leaves or is injured.

You hit the nail on the head. It'll be interesting to see what the Vikes do in the upcomming draft. McCoy and Tebow will more than likely be there at 30 but not when they draft in the 2nd...I hope they don't REACH for either one of these guys in the 1st but they do need to adress this sooner rather than later. I just don't think this years draft solves their problem at finding a long-term solution at QB.

Maybe the Redskins will draft either Bradford or Clausen and that may free up McNabb for the following year...other than that, there are few options out there.

[eyehunter]

If the Redskins don't ink McNabb to a long term deal he will be unrestricted next season. They just took over his current contract from Philly which only has one year left on it. He could come to the Vikings like Favre did after one year just playing to stay in the league so to speak. Heard one report though that McNabb said that if he would have gotten traded to the Raiders that he would have retired.....OUCH!!! That says a lot about the way Al Davis runs the show out west.

[SkunkedAgain]

I also heard Mike Wilbon say that McNabb was amused at reports that his first choice was the Vikings. He had no clue what started that rumor. It's a good point that the Skins only took over his contract and that he could be available next season. If I were the Redskins, I'd ink McNabb to a 2 or 3 year deal (with the 3rd year being voidable) and draft or trade for a good QB prospect. Let him sit under McNabb for a year or two and then cut McNabb and unleash the hound.

[croixflats]

I'm not a big fan of McNabb so I really never paid attention to him. What I do remember is the guy gets hurt a lot and he is inconsistent with his play. When was the last time the guy had a full season with out injuries or being yanked because of his inconsistent play. I'm not saying he is not a good quarterback just saying he comes with a lot of baggage to over come and that is probably why phili is letting him go.

[zamboni]

I'm not a big fan of McNabb so I really never paid attention to him. What I do remember is the guy gets hurt a lot and he is inconsistent with his play. When was the last time the guy had a full season with out injuries or being yanked because of his inconsistent play. I'm not saying he is not a good quarterback just saying he comes with a lot of baggage to over come and that is probably why phili is letting him go.

I agree and can't believe people around here were willing to give up a first round pick for him. If he was 23 yes, but not at his age.

[zepman]

No way is he worth a 1st rounder...barely worth a 2nd in my book. Overrated and a jerk on top of it.

Washington would be wise to draft Clausen or Bradford if they're available at #4...most likely Clausen.

[lawdog]

McNabb has been to the NFC championship game 5 times. He's a winner. Stats are one thing, but the only stat I care about is W's and he has lots of them. Would I rather have #4, you bet! But if we don't have 4: 5 is a WAY better than our other options, that's all I'm saying. This better mean Brett is coming back!

[goblueM]

McNabb is not a jerk, what are you talking about? He's one of the classier players out there. He's been a consummate professional throughout this entire ordeal. I cannot believe how much Philly fans dislike him. He's a darn good QB

that being said it makes sense to deal him. They got good value in return, and this is a deep draft. They need to completely re-tool the team and it is a perfect time to do that

[SkunkedAgain]

Exactly goblueM.

[zepman]

McNabb is not a jerk, what are you talking about? He's one of the classier players out there. He's been a consummate professional throughout this entire ordeal. I cannot believe how much Philly fans dislike him. He's a darn good QB

that being said it makes sense to deal him. They got good value in return, and this is a deep draft. They need to completely re-tool the team and it is a perfect time to do that

5 NFC Championship games and his fan base in Philly can't stand the guy...he's a jerk and that's being nice.

[goblueM]

how are you arriving at that conclusion? everything i've ever read said he is a great guy both on and off the field.

take this for instance (sounds like he's the biggest jerk around, right?)

"in the case of McNabb - a consummate professional on and off the field and a proven leader that made Philadelphia a fixture in the playoffs over the last decade - the Eagles move to trade him is another link in the chain of inexplicable disrespect he has received during his NFL tenure.

Donovan has taken a lot shots over the years. He was booed by Philadelphia fans when selected in the 1999 draft (they wanted Ricky Williams . . . and we see how that turned out); he was labeled a "company man" by former teammate Freddie Mitchell (the brash under performing wide receiver that labeled himself Fredex); he was the subject of controversial race based remarks by Rush Limbaugh; he took a gut punch from a Philadelphia NAACP president that claimed McNabb was disserving the black community by not scrambling as much; he endured the unforgettable soap opera with the NFL's biggest diva, Terrell Owens; he's been the subject of the annual jabber by unappreciative Philadelphia fans because apparently being one of the best teams in the league each year isn't good enough; and the last blow was dealt by the Eagles organization seeking to trade its best player while he's still performing at a high level.

Perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't get it. I can't think of a quarterback that has compiled as many superlatives as Donovan, yet has had as many detractors. Since acquiring McNabb in 1999, only the Colts and Patriots have more wins than Philly. The Eagles have been in the playoffs eight times in his eleven seasons. Over that period, McNabb led the Eagles to four consecutive NFC East division championships from 2001 thru 2004, five NFC Championship Games and one Super Bowl. He's been his team's leader and a model citizen within his community"

[BRULEDRIFTER]

I sure would like to know of any instances where McNabb can be accused as ever being a jerk myself. Where are you basing this opinon from?

Things that make you go Hmmmmmm.... ????

Goblue,

I'm not sure I can agree with this statement....

that being said it makes sense to deal him. They got good value in return, and this is a deep draft. They need to completely re-tool the team and it is a perfect time to do that

McNabb was their franchise! Considering they made the playoffs and are a playoff contender year after year how is NOW a good time for re-tooling? Wouldn't the Eagles be better off continuing to build around McNabb to increase their chances of making another SB run?

The Eagles messed up getting rid of him, IMO. Kolb may pan out, but why take that chance now?

Very interesting move to say the least. The Philly fans are going to be kicking themselves in the coming years!

.... or maybe not.... we'll see!

[goblueM]

for some reason Eagles fans just like to complain. Its completely irrational. He's a good guy on and off the field, and despite being treated like dirt by many fans, has never said anything negative about Philly. He's a classy guy.

On top of that, he's talented. Most teams would kill to be as good as them over the last decade.

as far as value and good decision to trade him... with his contract status and the depth of this year's draft, I think a high 2nd round pick was excellent compensation. McNabb is getting older, and his contract status was up. He is going to want a big payday, and I don't know that it is worth a large contract. In any case the Eagles would either have to let him go for no compensation, or shell out a big payday. This way they avoid that contract while getting something out of the deal.

I don't think the Eagles have it in them to make a Super Bowl this year, even if they had kept McNabb. Westbrook is gone, Dawkings is gone, they've cut Shawn Andrews and traded Gocong. Clearly in rebuilding mode and with the strenght of the draft this year and the state of the CBA i think it is a wise decision

I think Kolb will be just fine for them. Reports are the younger offensive skill players are close to him already, and I watched him in college and in his limited action last year. He'll be adequate this year and could turn into a star.

[BRULEDRIFTER]

Well said! I guess I can't argue with that logic at all.

[zamboni]

It isn't just Eagles fans, Philly is classically known as its fans being tough on all its hometown athletes.

But I am going to go one farther, it seems like all fans out east are tough on their teams. NYC, Boston, Philly, Pittsburgh, etc.