8 - Point Restrictions Meeting In Perham

[alwaysonthemove]

Did Anyone go to the Meeting at the Perham Highschool Monday, about point restrictions for 240 and 241? I was not able to attend just wondering how it went?

[hockeybc69]

What the heck is this about???

[buckhunter21]

Never heard a thing about it. What was the meeting supposed to be about exactly?

[picksbigwagon]

I looked at the DNR HSOforum and didn't find anything about these meetings, I will keep on looking, if someone else finds them let me know where you found them and I will sticky them at the top of this forum....

[hockeybc69]

Doesnt QDMA have a chapter up in Perham??? Or is it Parkers Prarie?

I wonder if it was something to do with that, rather than anything DNR related.

[B. Amish]

Quote:

Regional deer hunters forum features DNR big game official

The Perham Sportsman’s Club will host a Deer Management Forum on January 11, 7 p.m. in the Perham High School auditorium.

The forum is in response to a number of requests for alternative deer management options in the Perham area, especially management unit 241.

Sportsman’s Club president Craig Swanson said, “the club is excited to host this forum. Our club has a mission statement of, Being All Things to All Sportsmen. This forum definitely falls in line with our mission and our desire to get the public involved with the outdoors.”

Presentations will be made by Perham area resident, Wayne Enger and Lou Cornicelli, Big Game Program Coordinator with the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources.

As state president with the Minnesota Deer Hunters Association for nearly five years, Enger gained valuable insight into deer management issues across Minnesota and described himself as a Deer Management Philosopher.

“After hearing so many opinions concerning deer management, especially in management area 241, it’s simply time to have the discussion. My intent will be to explain the many deer management options that have been offered and what the social impact might be for each. It’s a matter of describing alternatives and letting people decide what is right for them. When enough people share the same opinion, change can occur.”

Cornicelli comes with a significant background involving big game management in Minnesota and has been instrumental in adopting changes in deer hunting seasons through implementing public opinion. Cornicelli said, “I am anxious to hear comments from hunters and other stake holders concerning deer management preferences in the 241 management area”.

Representatives for the Minnesota Deer Hunters Association and Quality Deer Management have also been invited to provide a short explanation of their role in helping the public with deer management issues.

The public is invited at no charge.

[picksbigwagon]

So it wasn't a DNR roundtable then...........

[Code-Man]

Other states have a pt restriction for one side like 4 points on one side. I'm all in favor of doing something like this but who's going to enforce it?

[96trigger]

Sounds more like a lobbying effort (right or wrong, depending on where you stand) by the organization with the DNR being present.

It would be nice if a member who was at the meeting could share what was discussed, but I'm sure that would lead into debate about more or less restrictions. We all know where that will lead.

My personal opinion is that more change is coming, like it or not. People have a tendency to fear change, don't fear change, EMBRACE it.

[Code-Man]

It's working in other states why not listen to what's being proposed. Ya it might suck for 2-3 years but imagine what it would be like after that!

[hockeybc69]

Bring it on!!

[lungdeflator]

Well if nothing else came out of this meeting then at least they are meeting. I live in the northern part of the state but regulations like this have to start somewhere. We can just hope that others will follow suit

[Musky Buck]

I'm in the 240 area close to Perham, never heard a word about it till now. All I know for sure is the wintering herds in my 3 areas are down, way down in numbers, 1 spot no longer has a wintering herd and the other 2 spots numbers are lower than I've seen in my lifetime of 30 years of scouting the same swamps.

[fireman]

I was not able to attend, but the forum included a history of deer mgmt in MN, alternative deer mgmt options, results from past hunter surveys, and a current survey that will be sent to 1 in 10 hunters who hunt permit areas 240,241, 243 and 244. All who attended also received a survey.

The results of this current survey will determine if the 4 areas will have an experimental season, which would most likely include antler point restrictions.

Sounds like an interesting forum, wish I would have been able to attend.

Personally, I hunt in area 240, and would be very interested in APR in this area. Hope I or someone in our party, receives a survey.

[picksbigwagon]

Fireman, where did you get the information that the DNR will base it's decision on 10% percent of the hunters who hunt those areas and 100% of the members from QDMA chapter in perham who were at their own meeting in the first place? How many people were at this meeting and how much publicity about this meeting was there.

I don't think the DNR would do a survey with that kind of input.

[fireman]

This information was provided by a friend who attended. Sounds like there were about 125 people there.

[buckhunter21]

I know there was talk last year of 240 and 241 being a test area for APRs but it turned out to be just that, talk. I hope they finally pull the trigger on this and put it into effect by next year but I have my doubts. Nice to see they are maybe at least sending out a survey to get more input on it. I do think that 240 and 241 would be good areas to do an experimental APR regulation because they still have a pretty strong population at least in most areas and there is already a lot of people in those areas who pass up immature bucks already with Perham and Parkers having QDM chapters and I think Hillview management is in 241, so that would be a little easier maybe to go to APRs than an area that doesnt already have a strong support for seeing more mature bucks.

[fr0sty]

I hunt 240 also. I would be in favor. We and most everyone around us lets the small ones go already, so this would only help grow bigger deer.

I was not able to attend, but the forum included a history of deer mgmt in MN, alternative deer mgmt options, results from past hunter surveys, and a current survey that will be sent to 1 in 10 hunters who hunt permit areas 240,241, 243 and 244. All who attended also received a survey.

The results of this current survey will determine if the 4 areas will have an experimental season, which would most likely include antler point restrictions.

Sounds like an interesting forum, wish I would have been able to attend.

Personally, I hunt in area 240, and would be very interested in APR in this area. Hope I or someone in our party, receives a survey.

[hockeybc69]

We are also in 240.

Our neighboring properties are mostly there to get meat...

[RuttenBuck]

I hunt both 241 and 243 - bring on the change! We too have most neighboring properties on board with some form of management.

[BeezeHound]

I'm sure 1 in 10 is a pretty normal number for surveys, it would take for ever to compile all the data if they sent surveys to every hunter. 1 in 10 will still be thousands of opinions and they would get a pretty good idea of the general consensus.

[Musky Buck]

Bring it on. The 24 deer hunters in my family that hunt 240 would be 100% in favor because they are already doing it. Maybe just survey areas 240 and 241 ?

[vister]

that would be teriffic!! i hunt in 240, and we have a great quality whitetail herd in the area. our party, as well as most of the neighbors already are selective on which bucks are taken, as well as does. now if it was a law that everyone in our zone had to pass on them youngins, well, watch out record books!! very rarely do you see a mature buck with a puny rack. if we know that it is a mature buck coming our way, best be ready to shoot. most of the bucks taken in a 5 mile radius of my parents farm are 2.5 or 3.5 year old deer, with a good upper 130 class average and above.

i think everyone i know in our zone would be in favor of AR, other than my grandpa, who wants to be able to shoot whatever he desires, however, we got him a trail cam a few xmas' ago, and even he started passing on younger deer once he saw what was actually using his clear cuts!!

[buckhunter21]

I wonder whats going to happen to the pressure on public land if this does actually happen in 240 and 241? Is everyone gonna want a piece of the action once they see how well this works and put even more pressure on our public land since it will be the only area in MN with this reg its going to be your best bet for a mature buck. I just hope if thats the case the dnr quickly acts and puts a more widespread APR in the state. I guess we have to start somewhere bring it on!

[vister]

im on the eastern edge of 240. i dont know of any public land in that zone other than by almora, over by henning. but, that goes to show what i know!! all this talk has me excited thinking in a year or two, we just may get to see AR! sounds like most here are for it too. But, then again, it only takes one rotten potato to spoil a bushel!