Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
123fish

Death Grip

19 posts in this topic

I was wondering how many guys use the method of dispatching birds that we call the Death Grip? Had a young man from S.D. show us this a few years ago. You take the crippled bird and take whatever hand you have the strongest grip with and and reach around the back of the cripple and put your thumb and forefinger right where the bird's wings meet the body (wingpits?) and squeeeeze. Pretty soon the bird's eyes close, the head goes limp, the wings usually start to flap and a few more seconds it's lights out. You know they are dead because they will be totally limp. This works pretty slick and sure beats wringing necks or banging their head on a rock or fencepost or whatever. Works on doves, partridge,roosters, ducks. Bigger ducks are tough because they have more lung capacity. Usually only takes a minute or two of hard squeezing on a rooster to put him out. Nice and neat. Be careful with the wing flapping part if they have a broken wing close to the body so not to cut yourself with the broken wing bone.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Never heard of it, and will never do it. If what you say is true, "Usually only takes a minute or two of hard squeezing on a rooster to put him out," that's too long, and the bird is suffering/suffocating longer than it should. Breaking it's neck has to be faster in this case.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Did "ringing" the neck become politcally incorrect these days?

Guess I could see doing something like that on a mounter, otherwise it's about three swings and into the vest for me...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've done the chest squeeze but still prefer to wring the neck. It's faster.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Seems long and unneeded. Wring the neck with a quick twist of the body and it's all over. My goal was to kill them to begin with right?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted By: hunterjames
i always just bite their head

An Ozzy fan I see! too funny.

....or the Rooster Commander.....LOL

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'll time it next time. Wouldn't do it if I thought the bird was suffering needlessly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am just saying if there is any delay at all it is more "suffering" than wringing the neck. They may flap a bit after the neck is broken but they are dead.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Pull on the head with one hand and pull the legs with the other hand. That is even quicker then twisting the neck and they dont flap. It breaks the neck really quick.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why don't you guys just shoot them in the head? That way there dead as soon as the dog get's there and they don't get spurred while bringing them to your hand. Pretty simple in my opinion!! smirk (said with sarcasm!)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Pull on the head with one hand and pull the legs with the other hand. That is even quicker then twisting the neck and they dont flap. It breaks the neck really quick.

Great tip 2thepoint, this is the method I use for feisty ones.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And I always pictured you as a "one shot, one kill" guy muc!!

Very dissapointed! grin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The only time I will guarantee death in one shot is the advances I make at Mrs Muc. I take a shot and she kills it dead on the spot!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just kill them as quick as I can after six stitches on the top of my hand a couple years ago. Stupid thing got me some how I kid you not.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i always just bite their head

Thats what I do too, superfast. My buddy used to have a dog that never retreived a live bird. Every bird had 4 holes in it from his teeth. It was a big lab, like 112# on the vets scale and this was late season. But I still was impressed when he put 4 holes into some canadas we shot one day.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Posts

    • You be lucky if there isn't a nest in the seat, and pee all over the carpet....
    • If one were measuring the debt in constant dollars instead of nominal dollars, 5% inflation reduces it by 5% of the $20 Trillion.  That is a trillion dollars.    Is that hard to understand?   Debt is only significant in relation to GDP and ability to pay.   Consider a thought experiment.   You own a thousand dollar 30 year treasuries paying 3% which is the current going rate.   So the government owes you 30 dollars a year, and a thousand dollars in 2046.   If inflation were to increase to 5%, the value of your thousand dollars goes down by 50 dollars per year.   In 2046 you get 1000 dollars which is equivalent to $215 today.   Which is a bigger problem to pay, the $1000 that you are complaining about or the $215 that actually gets paid?      Inflation has its problems but it also fixes debt concerns.  
    • So the Pence thing wasn't at a local level?   That what you were saying?     And the difference between subsidizing out of state folks and in state folks is?  Johnson subsidized the california folks coming to new mexico for a few weeks, and pence is subsidizing, by a factor of 7 less, local people keeping their jobs.     Got any numbers as to how many jobs for how long created by the Johnson hand out to Hollywood? 
    • Some other small detail items before I get to the finished pics of the entire house.   Each bench has a built in UV jig glow light.  You never have to worry about finding your keychain light (or the dead battery they always seem to have) again!   The normal bench cushion back always seems to be falling down.   I had each cushion sewn with a tab, and then installed a grommet and a hook on the wall.       On the back side of each wheel well is a rod storage compartment for 4 rods, an ice scoop, a forceps, and a few small hooks for miscellaneous stuff.   I mentioned the under cabinet and under bunk lighting in another post, but here it is in action.   And another view of my charging cabinet, with rattle reel storage.   That's all for now.  Finished pics soon!
    • I've had others, but I am a Bushnell fan.
    • Version #1 of the lift bed was a marvelous failure.  Everything looked great while building and installing it.  It was probably the most precise piece I've ever built.  The trouble was multi dimensional binding, as was pointed out in an earlier post.     Version #2 works well.  The strut channel and trolley works great, and doesn't allow any binding. You still want to lift or lower evenly, but it is really forgiving.     This is set up with 4 locking positions.  2 storage, and 2 sleeping.  I expect this to become the most frequently used bed in the house, rather than dropping the table down all the time.    The extra head room with this in its highest position is wonderful!  It isn't a direct replacement for pushing a button on the Happi Jac, but at about $1900 less, it'll work very well.  
    • This will be a bit long winded, but by far the most frequent question I get is how to wire these.  I'll try to detail as best I can.     Starting from the outside of the house I have a regular 30amp RV plug, similar to this:   From this plug I have a heavy duty 10/2 wire running to my converter, which is a Progressive Dynamics PD4045.  The nitty gritty details can be found with a search, but to summarize, it powers all your AC components, and converts AC to DC power, and charges any batteries.     My only AC components are outlets, the heating element for the electric part of my water heater, and a future expansion for a roof mount air conditioner.  Everything else is DC, and I don't use inverters (which would be used to convert 12v battery power to AC).  My reasoning is that the inverters are generally inefficient, and I have a Yamaha generator that will run over 14 hours on a gallon of gas.  That equates to about $6 per weekend with the amount I use it.             AC wires from the power panel include 10/2 to both the future air conditioner, and the water heater.  All outlets are 12/2.   I also have 10 gauge wire running from the panel to my (2) 6 volt GC2 (Sam's Club) golf cart batteries.  These are connected in series with a very heavy duty 0 gauge cable to make 12 volts.     The DC side is a bit more complicated to explain.  I have it set up in 2 categories.  (1) would be frequently used or higher draw components powered directly by the converter, each on their own fuse in the power panel.  This includes furnace, interior lights, exterior lights, ceiling fan, hydronic pump, sink pump, water heater ignition, stereo, and hole lights.  These all have a + wire from the converter to wherever the switch is located, and then continuing on from the switch to wherever the main power wire is for each component (more on this later).           Behind the converter I have a simple metal grounding bar to make all the - connections, and I have one main - wire running back to the batteries, and also grounded to the frame.         Category (2) are less frequently used, or very low power draw, or items with their own switch.  I have classified these as "always on".  This includes my two front exterior lights (so I can flip them on from the outside of the house), tv antenna, roof vents, rear bunk overhead lights, under cabinet lighting, range hood, etc.  These are all powered from the converter on a single fuse (20 amp).   So that brings me to the bathroom wall.  Knowing that the connections are by far the most likely failure point, I want to minimize the number of hidden connections buried by the spray foam.  Each light or fixture has its own separate wire to either the power panel, or my connection point in the wall.  This was taken before I got everything tidied up for spray foam, but you can see the plywood panel in the bathroom wall.         The other side of it now looks like this:    All the wires are brought down from the ceiling through the bathroom wall, with the connections made here.  You can see each has a + and - terminal bar, and then there is one other main grounding bar at the bottom, with a heavy 10 gauge - wire that runs back to the batteries and is also grounded to the frame.   So that's wiring in a nutshell!        
    • Looks like the rust belt should of went with a better rustproofing package.........     Donald Trump may have positioned himself as the champion of American workers but Republicans on the Hill are already embracing his “do as I say, not as I do” modus operandi. Under the backing of Paul Ryan, the GOP leadership stripped a provision from a water bill Monday that would have required American-made iron and steel products to be used in infrastructure projects in Flint and elsewhere funded by the Safe Drinking Water State Revolving Fund (DWSRF). Democratic Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown blasted Republicans, who removed the “Buy America” provision (which passed the Senate with strong bipartisan support) while the House and Senate were reconciling the bills. In other words, GOP leadership scrapped it behind closed doors. “By stripping meaningful Buy America rules from the water infrastructure bill, Washington leadership is choosing China and Russia over Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin,” said Brown. “This was the first major test of whether Washington establishment Republicans would live up to President-elect Trump’s promises to put American products and American workers first – they failed, and American iron and steel workers will pay the price.” Now, Brown is teaming up with Democratic Sens. Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin and Bob Casey of Pennsylvania to insert the provision back in the bill. They want to reattach the provision to a nearly $12 billion Water Resource Development Act (WRDA), which authorizes dozens of infrastructure projects around the country and is on track to pass the House this week. “I’m not giving up on this fight,” Baldwin said in a telephone interview Tuesday. “Why would we pass a bill that only benefits Russian and Chinese steel corporations when we could be providing certainty to American manufacturers of steel and iron?” That sentiment was shared by some steel worker groups earlier this week: “From our end it’s a little baffling,” said Roy Houseman, a legislative representative for the United Steelworkers. “It’s been a program that’s been really successful, and it has bipartisan support. We’re just very confused by the Speaker, who’s not listening to the rest of his caucus.” In essence, “Buy America” sounds as nice to Republicans as it did to Trump, but in practice they would rather preserve the "Buy Chinese" option that Trump uses to build his skyscrapers.
    • If there are any twins fans left, I wonder if these new young bucks running the club have asked mauer if he would lift his no trade clause?  I think we know the answer.  I find it interesting to watch these winter meetings trades etc but we are never involved.  It seems like we are missing something as fans.
    • Sorry BD2 --I think the trout is the most dependent on everything Now the king of conservatism is a-----------------------carp   This could get interesting!
  • Our Sponsors