Adrian Peterson- Runner Up NFL Offensive POY

[zamboni]

Drew Brees is this years NFL Player of the Year, with Peyton Manning and Adrian Peterson in a tie for runner up. I am pretty confident a bad case of fumbleitis the second half of the season cost AD the top honors.

[Sandmannd]

I'm sure that's all that cost. Still, tied for second with Peyton puts him in good company. He is an elite player for sure.

[kr8r.tom]

that and he gets stuffed way to many times.

[Schloogs]

Drew Brees is this years NFL Player of the Year, with Peyton Manning and Adrian Peterson in a tie for runner up. I am pretty confident a bad case of fumbleitis the second half of the season cost AD the top honors.

Fumbles or no fumbles. Brees had the better offensive year, over 5,000 yards passing is pretty impressive. The single season record came down to his last pass which he turfed. Second, is still quit an honor though.

[PierBridge]

I highly doubt the fumbles changed any votes at all.

Sounds about right all things considered.

[fishinphilth]

Cant believe T-Jack didnt get a vote!

[Sandmannd]

He got a couple, looke at the eating crow threads!!

[FISHINGURU]

the funny part is aaron rodgers had better numbers then peyton lol.

[zamboni]

I beg to differ with any of you that say Petersons vote totals were unaffected by his fumbling. For one thing his numbers dipped because Chester was inserted more often on 1st and 2nd downs than he had before the fumbling started

[zamboni]

the funny part is aaron rodgers had better numbers then peyton lol.

In 2 categories- TDs (by one 28-27) and yards (4,038 to 4,006). Manning had a higher rating, completion percentage and threw fewer picks than Rodgers.

[PierBridge]

I beg to differ with any of you that say Petersons vote totals were unaffected by his fumbling. For one thing his numbers dipped because Chester was inserted more often on 1st and 2nd downs than he had before the fumbling started

His numbers didn't dip at all.

But lets say they did..how about we say AP had 20 carries eliminated under your theory which is crazy high. That would translate into 100 yards rushing which IMO wouldn't effect anybody voting for the Offensive Player of the Year.

This isn't the MVP voting in which fumbles could effect the Voting if AP's Fumbles had cost us a Division Title maybe which he/they didn't anyway.

[FISHINGURU]

Originally Posted By: FISHINGURU

the funny part is aaron rodgers had better numbers then peyton lol.

In 2 categories- TDs (by one 28-27) and yards (4,038 to 4,006). Manning had a higher rating, completion percentage and threw fewer picks than Rodgers.

want to get technical do ya lol?

he's got him in yards, yards per game, tds, rushing yards, and rushing tds..he's basically a rookie and played on a bad team this year.

about the peterson thing...you guys should know the league, announcers, and the media, ect, are all about the qb's

don't forget to add the qb rating is only 1.2 of a difference and the completion difference is only 3.2%.

there's a handful of qb's in the league with similar or better #'s then manning and he plays on a better team with a better o-line.

rodgers was just an example off the top of my head...rivers would be another one but them are guys people don't talk about as much because peyton is peyton.

they should do all these awards and voting after the superbowl...if your a guy that dominates through playoffs and carries your team to the promise lands you should be mvp of the league.

about the peterson thing...you guys should know by now the league, coaches, announcers, media, ect, all have a thing for the qb's.

[zamboni]

He had him by ONE TD, not too many yards, and Peyton was never one to run with the ball. EVER. Did you mention Erins 10 fumbles this season?? And by the way, alot of Rodgers TD passes were within the 10 yard line. Why?? Because Grant had an off year compared to most RBs in the league- ask any fantasy owner that had him on their team. There were alot of first and goal situations the Packers were throwing on. First and goal from the 5 and Peytons handing off to Addai or Rhodes, Rodgers typically threw the ball. That adds up in TDs. I wish there was a way I could look up avg yards per TD throw, Peyton had him by a ton, guranteed.

And yes, in the case of Peterson, when a player stands on the sidelines his stats usually do go down. Tell me he wasn't in on first and ten because he didn't fumble, gimme a break.

[Croix]

Not to mention when your on a bad team you throw alot because your down and TD's and yrds are easy to come by. I could throw against a prevent defense that will give you 10 yrds on each throw. Rogers got alot of garbage time to fluff up his stats.

[otto_man]

Garbage time? The Packers won 6 games and lost 7 by four points or less, tell me where the garbage time comes into play?

[ikatcher]

the award is called the mvp, to compare no's of a q.b. that won 12 games to one that won 6 doesn't make alot of sense. and if you think that shouldn't matter when it comes to q.b. ask any viking fan. you can hide an ave player at any other position but not the q.b.

[zamboni]

the award is called the mvp, to compare no's of a q.b. that won 12 games to one that won 6 doesn't make alot of sense. and if you think that shouldn't matter when it comes to q.b. ask any viking fan. you can hide an ave player at any other position but not the q.b.

NOLA Saints went 8-8 this year.

[ikatcher]

my bad, i was refering to the manning/rodgers stats, only 1 q.b. has ever passed for more yds, thats pretty impressive, all those awards yr in and yr out go to players on winning teams. i think q.b. numbers are overrated, you make a 5 yd pass and the receiver runs it 75 yds for a touchdown, shows up n the stats the q.b. threw a 75 yd td pass.

[FISHINGURU]

He had him by ONE TD, not too many yards, and Peyton was never one to run with the ball. EVER. Did you mention Erins 10 fumbles this season?? And by the way, alot of Rodgers TD passes were within the 10 yard line. Why?? Because Grant had an off year compared to most RBs in the league- ask any fantasy owner that had him on their team. There were alot of first and goal situations the Packers were throwing on. First and goal from the 5 and Peytons handing off to Addai or Rhodes, Rodgers typically threw the ball. That adds up in TDs. I wish there was a way I could look up avg yards per TD throw, Peyton had him by a ton, guranteed.

exactly thats my point...just like all the stats i mentioned and you countered with how they were so close then you come back and tell me what peyton beat him at and those are real close...similar stats almost identical.....what about rivers?

did you mention peyton don't run? oh yeah you did so he would have less chance to fumble...not to mention manning plays behind what is reguarded as one of the best o-lines in the nfl if not the best...how was green bays o-line this year?

i'd say the recieving core over there in indy is a little better then in greenbay lol....what do u mean on the goal manning is handing off...thats a good one...he audibles out of run calls so he can throw td's...he's the king of that move.

grant had on off year because he's over rated, bad o-line and because everyone had to worry about favre giving grant room to run....who ever was dumb enough to draft grant in fantasy had it coming...look what happened when favre goes to the jets...jones had 1 td last season...take a peek what he had this year...did he all of a sudden get so much better?

does yards per td throw even have a point? maybe thats why there is no stat line for it....rodgers got him in total yards, yards per game, and tds for the season ( even more if you add rushing td's)....that means on average he threw for more yards in every game and tds throughout the season.

anyway i couldn't care less about rodgers or mannings stats...it was just an example that it is funny rodgers had better or "similar" stats since your bent about it along with another handful of qb's in the league and got MVP....sure he deserves it but most of the others weren't even mentioned....like rivers...his team is still in the playoffs and LT has played like dung this year ask anyone in fantasy lol.

[Jim Uran]

Garbage time? The Packers won 6 games and lost 7 by four points or less, tell me where the garbage time comes into play?

Watching the Packers is considered garbage time.

[Scott K]

Happy Birthday Leechbait! And you are correct

[FISHINGURU]

the award is called the mvp, to compare no's of a q.b. that won 12 games to one that won 6 doesn't make alot of sense.

exactly...either does giving the MVP to a player that has similar or worse stats to a handful of other players at their position while they are sitting at home on their couch watching the playoffs and the superbowl...doesn't sound like the most valuable player in the nfl to me lol.

[zamboni]

Guru, Rodgers didn't fumble a ton on running plays, he fumbled snaps and in the pocket, didn't you watch the last Vikes/Packers game?? He made a ton of bad decisions, and I really don't see him becoming a Pro Bowler or HOFer anytime soon.

Grant really isn't overrated either- he had a sensational year 2 seasons ago, and the Packers pretty much had Rodgers throwing every down this season and not giving him much of a chance of getting carries. Grant would be a starter on any team in the NFL, but I think the Packers wanted Rodgers to throw alot more to boost his confidence. And yes, they did throw on alot of short yardage TD plays this season instead of giving it to Grant.

[FISHINGURU]

if you don't like rodgers thats cool with me but he put up pro bowl type numbers his 1st year as a starter...greenbay just sucked this year....i'm not even a rodgers fan i just have to give him credit.

2 years ago? grant didn't even play football 2 years ago unless your counting the 07 season as 2 years ago and if you are thats the season i'm talkin about with favre...and even then thats far from a sensational season...unless you call 956 yards and 8 tds sensational.

i don't know where you come up with the idea that grant didn't get the ball much this year or didn't get opportunity....he was 5th in the league for rushing attempts...so only 4 more rb's in the nfl had more chances...his yards per carry were one of the worst in the league though.

gets a little tougher to run when teams don't have to game plan against favre and your oline stinks aye?

[zamboni]

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2 years ago? grant didn't even play football 2 years ago unless your counting the 07 season as 2 years ago and if you are thats the season i'm talkin about with favre...and even then thats far from a sensational season...unless you call 956 yards and 8 tds sensational.

He didn't play as an every down back until midway through the season, and yes after you consider that, he had a pretty great season.