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AMSOIL NOT ON 2005 TC-W3 CERTIFICATION LIST


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Chanced upon the nmma.org HSOforum and was looking through the list of TCW2 certified 2 stroke oils and suddenly realized that Amsoil could not be found there. Even Walmart 2 stroke oil is certified but Amsoil is not on the list. That does not sound good at all. What is happening? I think I better stick with Yamalube. Wanted to post the link but I got banned the last time I did that. So check it out yourselves on the search engines.

Also, NMMA also certifies boats and trailers. For trailers, it seems that only Shorelander and EZloaders are the only popular brands on there. I could not see Karavan or others. This is just for interest.

2005 TCW3 CERTIFIED OILS

REG. NUMBER OIL NAME REGISTERED COMPANY

RL-31350 "SUPER S" PREMIUM OUTBOARD OIL SMITTY'S SUPPLY INC

RL-92013E 2 TEMPS MARINE TC-W3 MINERVA OIL SAS

RL-10580 2 TIEMPOS NAUTIC PLUS COMERCIAL ROSHFRANS SA DE CV

RL-02053 76 UNIMIX 2-CYCLE OIL CONOCO PHILLIPS COMPANY

RL-26638G 76 UNIMIX 2-CYCLE OIL CONOCOPHILLIPS COMPANY

RL-27047G ACE 2-CYCLE OUTBOARD ENGINE OIL OLYMPIC OIL COMPANY

RL-92221 ADNOC OUTBOARD SUPER ENGINE OIL ADNOC DISTRIBUTION

RL-05012F AMALIE PRO TWO-CYCLE TC-W3 AMALIE OIL COMPANY

RL-80086G AP LUBE 2T OB TC-W3 AP OIL INTERNATIONAL LIMITED

RL-66201 AQUA LUBE AQUA LUBE OF KENTUCKY

RL-94102B AQUA MAX-2 MORRIS LUBRICANTS

RL-20086B AQUA SPORT-2 MORRIS LUBRICANTS

RL-10140 AVIA OUTBOARD THEVIN & DUCROT LUBRIFIANTS S A

RL-30097E BARDAHL NAUTICO SUPER BIA TC-WE BARDAHL DE MEXICO SA DE CV

RL-35000 BP SEA & LAND BP LUBRICANTS USA INC

RL-50128E BP SUPER OUTBOARD MOTOR OIL LUBRICANTS UK LTD.

RL-25093 BRAD PENN LOW POUR UNIVERSAL 2-STROKE AMERICAN REFINING GROUP

RL-20593 BRADD PENN LOW POUR UNIVERSAL 2-STROKE AMERICAN REFINING GROUP

RL-57031D BURGAN 2-STROKE OUTBOARD ENGINE OIL TC-W3 KUWAIT PETROLEUM RESEARCH

RL-27038F CABELA'S SIGNATURE SERIES SEMI-SYNTHETIC OIL LUBRICATION TECHNOLOGIES

RL-29100D CALTEX SUPER OUTBOARD 3 CALTEX INTERNATIONAL TECHNICAL CENTER

RL-29105E CALTEX SUPER OUTBOARD 3 CALTEX INTERNATIONAL TECHNICAL CENTER

RL-29107E CALTEX SUPER OUTBOARD 3 CALTEX INTERNATIONAL TECHNICAL CENTER

RL-40463F CARQUEST 2 CYCLE ENGINE OIL IRVING LUBRICANTS

RL-00058D CASEY'S 2-CYCLE TC-W3 PINNACLE OIL INC

RL-81182 CASTRO SUPER OUTBOARD BP LUBRICANT USA INC

RL-20088E CASTROL FULL SYNTHETIC SUPER OUTBOARD BP LUBRICANTS USA INC

RL-92032F CASTROL OMD 23 LUBRICANTS UK LTD.

RL-92014E CASTROL OUTBOARD 2T LUBRICANTS UK LTD.

RL-81183 CASTROL SUPER OUTBOARD OIL BP LUBRICANTS USA INC

RL-26060F CENEX MARINE XTREME CHS INC

RL-92333D CHEVRON 2-CYCLE OIL TC-W3 CHEVRON TEXACO GLOBAL LUBRICANTS

RL-70172F COASTAL TC-W3 WARREN UNILUBE INC

RL-40464G COBRA 2-CYCLE IRVING LUBRICANTS

RL-0056B CONOCO HYDROCLEAR XHP 2-CYCLE ENGINE OIL CONOCO PHILLIPS COMPANY

RL-80113E CONOCO POWER TC-W3 ENGINE OIL CONOCO PIHILLIPS COMPANY

RL-26639G CONOCO XHP 2-CYCLE ENGINE OIL CONOCO PHILLIPS COMPANY

RL-21182 COSMOS TERA 2-CYCLE COSMOS OIL LUBRICANTS COMPANY LTD

RL-56672F ESSO AQUAGLIDE EXXONMOBIL MEXICO S.A. DE C.V.

RL-60107F ESSO AQUAGLIDE EXXONMOBIL CORPORATION

RL-30101E ESSO AQUAGLIDE EXXONMOBIL CORPORATION

RL-56673 ESSO AQUAGLIDE EXXONMOBIL CORPORATION

RL-50130G ESSO AQUAGLIDE EXXONMOBILE CORPORATION

RL-30570 ESSO OUTBOARD OIL IMPERIAL OIL LIMITED

RL-00102E EVINRUDE/JOHNSON XD-25 OIL BOMBARDIER RECREATIONAL PRODUCTS INC

RL-00108E EVINRUDE/JOHNSON XD-30 OIL BOMBARDIER MOTOR CORPORATION OF AMERICA

RL-00191E EXXON SUPERFLO 2-CYCLE SUPREME EXXONMOBIL CORPORATION

RL-27045F FINA OUTBOARD MOTOR OIL LUBRICANTS USA

RL-24011 FIRE STAR PINNACLE OIL CO

RL-92201 GALP OCEANUS PETROGAL

RL-90550D GALP OCEANUS BIO PETROGAL

RL-20393 GULF PRIDE 2-STROKE AMERICAN REFINING GROUP

RL-92002B GULF PRIDE 3000 GULF OIL INTERNATIONAL

RL-20594B GULFPRIDE MARINE-G AMERICAN REFINING GROUP

RL-29112E HAVOLINE TWO CYCLE ENGINE OIL TC-W3 CHEVRON TEXACO BRASIL LTDA

RL-92334D HAVOLINE TWO-CYCLE ENGINE OIL TC-W3 CHEVRON TEXACO GLOBAL LUBRICANTS

RL-10081C HAVOLINE TWO-CYCLE ENGINE OIL TC-W3 CHEVRO TEXACO GLOBAL LUBRICANTS

RL-42010 HiTIDE 2i BP AUSTRALIA PTY. LTD.

RL-50391 IGOL DOLPHIN TC-W3 IGOL FRANCE

RL-90043C IGOL DOLPHINE TC-W3 BIO IGOL FRANCE

RL-93301 INA-OUTBOARD PLUS MAZIVA-ZAGREB D O O

RL-90041 INTER 2T RAC X3 (OR-81432) MAURAN SA LUBRIFRIANTS

RL-40462F IRVING 2 CYCLE + IRVING LUBRICANTS

RL-60392F ITASCA SYNTHETIC BLEND 2-CYCLE OUTBOARD ENGINE OIL TC-W3 WARREN OIL COMPANY

RL-60104F ITASCA UNIVERSAL 2-CYCLE OUTBOARD ENGINE OIL WARREN OIL COMPANY

RL-32032E JAYACO 2 CYCLE MOTORCYCLE OIL IMPORTADORA LA PLAZA

RL-92805 JET X-TREME 2T BUCHER AG LANGENTHAL

RL-99905 JET X-TREME BIO 2T BUCHER AG LANGENTHAL

RL-50457F KAWACHEM HIGH PERFORMANCE JET SKI ENGINE KAWASAKI MOTORS CORP, USA

RL-50456F KAWACHEM JET SKI OIL KAWASAKI MOTORS CORP, USA

RL-26640G KENALL FT-1 2-CYLE TC-W3 ENGINE OIL CONOCOPHILLIPS COMPANY

RL-05570 KENDALL GT 2-CYCLE TC-W3 ENGINE OIL CONOCO PHILLIPS COMPANY

RL-93101 KLOTZ TC-W3 KLOTZ SPECIAL FORMULA PRODUCTS, INC.

RL-30102F LABRAX NAUTICA PETROBAS DISTRIBUIDORA SA

RL-93340 LAGUNA BIO 2T BUCHER AG LANGENTHAL

RL-30065B LUBRA 2T TC-W3 LUBRICANTES DE AMERICA S A DE C V

RL-03053 LUBRIMATIC PINNACLE OIL INC

RL-26078G MAG 1 WARREN DISTRIBUTION INC

RL-30161 MARINA 2T PLUS COMPAHIA BRAZILEIRA DE PETROLEO IPIRANGA

RL-33400 MARINE TERRAIN 2-CYCLE ENGINE OIL THE VALVOLINE COMPANY

RL-27048G MASTER MECHANIC 2-CYCLE OUTBOARD ENGINE OIL OLYMPIC OIL CO

RL-26080G MFA OIL TC-W3 2-CYCLE OIL MFA OIL COMPANY

RL-50131G MOBIL OUTBOARD PLUS EXXON MOBIL CORPORATION

RL-56670E MOBIL OUTBOARD PLUS EXXONMOBIL CORPORATION

RL-60105F MOBIL OUTBOARD PLUS EXXONMOBIL CORPORATION

RL-56668D MOBIL OUTBOARD PLUS MOBILE KOREA LUBE OIL INC.

RL-56666C MOBIL YAMAHA EXON MOBIL CORPORATION

RL-40101G MOL ALBATROS TS MOL-LUB KFT

RL-29102E MOTEX 2T OUTBOARD CHEVRON TEXACO TECHNOLOGY GHENT

RL-20087C MOTEX S OUTBOARD CHEVRON TEXACO TECHNOLOGY GHENT

RL-34200G MOTEX S OUTBOARD CHEVRON TEXACO TECHNOLOGY GHENT

RL-26070F MOTOR F1 SNOW INJECTOR OIL CANADIAN TIRE CORPORTATION

RL-37000 MOTORCYCLE INJECTOR OIL VALVOLINE COMPANY

RL-26072F MOTORMASTER F1 PREM OUTBOARD OIL CANADIAN TIRE CORPORATION

RL-26074F MOTORMASTER OUTBOARD OIL CANADIAN TIRE CORPORATION

RL-90640 MOTUL 600 OUTBOARD 2T MOTUL SA

RL-56607 MOTUL MARINE 2T PLUS MOTUL SA

RL-56623 MOTUL OUTBOARD 2T MOTUL SA

RL-32100 MULTIPURPOSE 2 CYCLE ENGINE OIL VALVOLINE COMPANY

RL-20111 NATIONAL TC-W3 PINNACLE OIL INC

RL-57200G NAUTIC PRO BOMBARDIER RECREATIONAL PRODUCTS INC

RL-92015E NAUTIC PRO HIGH PERFORMANCE 2-CYCLE OUTBOARD OIL BOMBARDIER RECREATIONAL PROD EUROPE NV

RL-26009C NAUTILAS/ADVANCE SHELL CANADA PRODUCTS LTD

RL-30940 NAUTILUS BIODEGRADABLE OUTBOARD SHELL INTERNATIONAL LIMITED

RL-31157 NAUTILUS PREMIUM OUTBOARD SHELL INTERNATIONAL LIMITED

RL-80063 NAUTILUS PREMIUM OUTBOARD SHELL INTERNATIONAL LIMITED

RL-80162 NAUTILUS PREMIUM OUTBOARD SHELL INTERNATIONAL LIMITED

RL-80761 NAUTILUS PREMIUM OUTBOARD SHELL INTERNATIONAL LIMITED

RL-81420 NAUTILUS PREMIUM OUTBOARD SHELL INTERNATIONAL LIMITED

RL-90045F NAUTIMAR BIOSYNTHETIC FL SELENIA SPA

RL-20097F NEPTUNA 2T BIO JET TOTAL LUBRIFIANTS

RL-00182F NEPTUNA 2T RACING TOTAL LUBRIFIANTS

RL-00198F NEPTUNA 2T SUPER SPORT TOTAL LUBRIFIANTS

RL-95101C NISSAN MARINE PREMIUM OUTBOARD MOTOR OIL TOHATSU AMERICA CORP

RL-29115F NP SUPER STREAM OUTBOARD MOTOR OIL TRINADAD & TOBAGO NATIONAL PETROLEUM MKTG CO

RL-92017 NYCOLUBE 249 NYCO

RL-34000 OUTBOARD 2-CYCLE MARINE OIL THE VALVOLINE COMPANY

RL-20084B PENNZOIL MARINE 100% SYNTHETIC OUTBOARD 2-CYCLE OIL TC-W3 SOPUS PRODUCTS-SHELL LUBRICANTS

RL-27003G PENNZOIL MARINE PREMIUM PLUS SHELL OIL PRODUCTS US

RL-27042F PENNZOIL MARINE PREMIUM PLUS 2-CYCLE SOPUS PRODUCTS-SHELL LUBRICANTS

RL-26024F PENNZOIL MARINE XLF SOPUS PRODUCTS-SHELL LUBRICANTS

RL-27004G PENNZOIL MARINE XLF SHELL OIL PRODUCTS US

RL-27002G PENNZOIL OUTDOOR MULTIPURPOSE SHELL OIL PRODUCTS US

RL-27043F PENNZOIL PREMIUM OUTBOARD MULTI-PURPOSE 2-CYCLE SOPUS PRODUCTS-SHELL LUBRICANTS

RL-27001G PENNZOIL SNOWMOBILE SHELL OIL PRODUCTS US

RL-27041F PENNZOIL SNOWMOBILE OIL SOPUS PRODUCTS-SHELL LUBRICANTS

RL-20075E PENRITE MARINE OUTBOARD TWO STROKE OIL PENRITE OIL COMPANY PTY LTD

RL-24436 PERF PLUS 2-YCLE OUTBOARD MOTOR OIL SAFETY-KLEEN, LUBRICANTS DIVISION

RL-50156 PETRO-CANADA PREMIUM OUTBOARD MOTOR OIL PETRO-CANADA LUBRICANTS

RL-32031E PETROLUB AQUALUB TC-W3 DISTRIBUIDORA NICARAGUENSE DE PETROLEO SA

RL-60173 PETRONAS OUTBOARD SPECIAL PETRONAS LUBRICANT UNIT

RL-26641G PHILLIPS 66 INJEX 2-CYCLE TC-W3 OIL CONOCOPHILLIPS COMPANY

RL-20150D PHILLIPS 66 INJEX 2-CYCLE TC-W3 OIL CONOCO PHILLIPS COMPANY

RL-34201E PHILLIPS 66 SYNJEX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE MOTOR OIL CONOCO PHILLIPS COMPANY

RL-20981 PHILLIPS 66 SYNJEX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE TC-W3 OIL CONOCO PHILLIPS COMPANY

RL-20391 PITT PENN PREMIUM 2-CYCLE TCW3 PITT PENN OIL CO

RL-56609 POLO ALASKA TC-W3 LUBRICATING SPECIALTIES COMPANY

RL-80088G POWER MARINE TCWIII EMIRATES GENERAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION

RL-42000 PROECO 2818 TC-W3/W-CYCLE ENGINE OIL COGNIS CORPORATION

RL-80115D PROTEC 2T SUPER OUTBOARD ENOC INTRNATIONAL SALES LLC

RL-51030 Q8 OUTBOARD KUWAIT PETROLEUM RESEARCH

RL-20873 QUAKER STATE RACING OIL 2T COMERCIAL IMPORTADORA SA de CV

RL-27044F QUAKER STATE SMALL ENGINE SNOWMOBILE TCW3 OIL SOPUS PRODUCTS-SHELL LUBRICANTS

RL-15010 QUICK SILVER PREMIUM PLUS MERCURY MARINE

RL-11370 QUICKSILVER MERCURY MARINE

RL-99904 QUICKSILVER PREMIUM MERCURY MARINE

RL-93353 QUICKSILVER PREMIUM (BRAZIL) MERCURY MARINE

RL-32250 QUICKSILVER PREMIUM (MEXICO) MERCURY MARINE

RL-99997D QUICKSILVER SAUDI ARABIA MERCURY MARINE

RL-42121G RACOR SUPERIOR SYNTHETIC BLEND 2-CYCLE OIL RACOR DIVISION PARKER HANNIFIN CORP

RL-29018F RAVENOL OUTBOARDOEL RAVENSBERGER SCHMIERSTOFVERTRIEB GMBH

RL-29019G RAVENOL WATERCRAFT FULLSYNTH. 2-TAKT RAVENSBERGER SCHMIERSTOFFVERTRIEB GmbH

RL-93701E RESOLUTE 2-CYCLE TC-W3/FOR FLEET WHOLESALE SUPPLY CITGO PETROLEUM CORPORATION

RL-92402B ROCK OIL MP3 SPORTS ROCK OIL COMPANY

RL-27046F ROYAL OUTBOARD MOTOR OIL TC-W3 ROYAL MANUFACTURING CO INC

RL-26022F SHELL NAUTILUS 2-CYCLE OUTBOARD SOPUS PRODUCTS-SHELL LUBRICANTS

RL-27005G SHELL NAUTILUS OUTBOARD SHELL OIL PRODUCTS US

RL-27037F SIERRA ECONOMY 2-CYCLE OIL LUBRICATON TECHONOLOGIES INC

RL-27036F SIERRA TC-W3 PREMIUM 2-CYCLE ENGINE OIL LUBRICATION TECHNOLOGIES INC

RL-80752D SINCLAIR ARTIC FIRE 2-CYCLE OIL SINCLAIR OIL CORPORATION

RL-26061F SNOW MAX CHS INC

RL-30100 SNOWMOBILE 2 CYCLE ENGINE OIL VALVOLINE COMPANY

RL-63031 SONIC DYNAMIX PLUS FEDERATED CO-OPERATIVES LTD

RL-92507 SPC MARINE SUPER 2T PETROLEUM COMPANY LIMITED

RL-33300 SPEEDWAY 2-CYCLE ENGINE OIL THE VALVOLINE COMPANY

RL-99196 STA-MIX OUTOARD LUBRICANT SPECTRUM CORP

RL-00101E STARBRITE PREMIUM TCW-3 KINPAK INC

RL-00100E STARBRITE SUPER PREMIUM TC-W3 KINPAK INC

RL-72371D STEARNS PREMIUM 2-CYCLE ENGINE OIL STEARNS PACKAGING CORP

RL-34001C SUNOCO 2-CYCLE ENGINE OIL THE VALVOLINE COMPANY

RL-30064B SUPER 2T GONHER DE MEXICO S A DE C V

RL-50090 SUPER HORS BORD III HAFA LUBRICANTS - SOFRA

RL-26079G SUPER TECH WAL-MART STORES INC

RL-93700B SUPERGARD MARINE PLUS CITGO PETROLEUM CORPORATION

RL-60560 SUPRA 3 EDUARDONO S A

RL-31352 SURE GURRD SMITTY'S SUPPLY INC

RL-22000 SUZUKI OUTBOARD OIL AMERICAN SUZUKI MOTOR CORPORATION

RL-00197G SYNTHE NAUTIC ARMORINE S A

RL-26006C TC-W3 2-CYCLE OIL SHELL CANADA PRODUCTS

RL-96001 TEBOIL SPECIAL OUTBOARD SUOMEN PETROOLI OY

RL-29109E TEXACO OUTBOARD TC-W3 CHEVRON TEXACO BRASIL LTDA

RL-95102C TOHATSU PREMIUM OUTBOARD OIL TOHATSU AMERICA CORP

RL-26081G TRACKER MARINE PRO WARREN DISTRIBUTION

RL-34170 UFA 2-CYCLE ENGINE OIL UNITED FARMERS OF ALBERTA CO-OP LIMITED

RL-18003D ULTRA OUTBOARD MOTOR OIL ULTRAMAR

RL-18002D ULTRA SNOWMOBILE OIL ULTRAMAR

RL-32257 UNIL OPAL OUTBOARD TC-W3 UNIL S A

RL-11880 VEEDOL FUERA DE BORDA SUPER 2 TIEMPOS 50 BP LUBRICANTS

RL-13110 WAKE RUNNER TC-W3 2-CYCLE BG PRODUCTS INC

RL-26023F WAL-MART SUPER TECH OUTBOARD 2-CYCLE SOPUS PRODUCTS-SHELL LUBRICANTS

RL-27006G WALMART SUPER TECH OUTBOARD SHELL OIL PRODUCTS US

RL-00151F XCEL OUTBOARD & 2-CYCLE OIL TC-W3 AMALIE OIL COMPANY

R-03451C XTREME PURE-FLO PREMIUM OUTBOARD TC-W3 CROSS OIL REFINING & MARKETING/UNIMARK COMPANY

RL-10541D YACCO OUTBOARD 100 2T YACCO S A S

RL-90044D YACCO OUTBOARD 1000 2T YACCO S A S

RL-20363G YAMALUBE 2 CALTEX INTERNATIONAL TECHNICAL CENTER

RL-83000 YAMALUBE FOR OUTBOARDS CITGO PETROLEUM CORPORATION

RL-29113E YPF 2T NAUTICO YPF S.A.

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I actually contact NMMA on this and I guess the company hasn't submitted the 2 stroke oil for testing and approval. AMSOIL 4 stroke oil was submitted and accepted for the 4 stroke oil approval, but not the 2 stroke synthetic.

I've used it for several years now and I wouldn't use anything else.

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Actually I'm impressed by your thoroughness. The only interest in Amsoil that I have is that it's a product that works well. I have never had a problem with any Amsoil product, and I have used several including 2 cycle oil, which perfomed extremely well in several outboards that I previously owned, and the gear lube, which does very well even with water contamination. Seems that when a motor gets old and tired, the synthetic promoted cleaner combustion and there was much less plug fowling. As for the rating, if you are concerned that it might void a warranty then use something else because ther are many substitutes. But engine damage caused by Amsoil 2 cycle oil, whether it carries the rating or not, is extremely unlikely.

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HERE IS SOME INFO ON AMSOIL HP INJECTOR OIL. I RUN THIS IN MY OPTI AND I HAVE NO COMPLAINTS, KNOW I FEW OTHERS THAT SWEAR BY IT...........

Superior performance in DFI outboard motors

Prevents piston and combustion chamber deposits

Prevents "ring jacking" common to DFI outboards

Low smoke, low odor product

Contains up to 30 percent more additives for "super clean" operation

Prevents wear for long engine life

Prevents rust

Multi-functional and recommended for use in many two-cycle motors

Low aquatic toxicity

Recommended for use as injection oil or at a 50:1 pre-mix

HP Injector is a precise synthetic formulation that exceeds the lubrication demands of modern two-cycle motors. Today's two-cycle outboard motors operate at higher temperatures and at leaner oil and fuel ratios than older motors. This difficult operating environment requires proper lubrication technology to keep motors running long and strong. HP Injector is a premium lubricant engineered with AMSOIL synthetic base oils and MAXDOSE advanced additives. It contains up to 30 percent more additives than other TC-W3 two-cycle oils for "super clean" operation. And because AMSOIL synthetic oils are more durable, they are perfect for lean mixture operations. In addition, this AMSOIL exclusive product produces low smoke and odor and has low aquatic toxicity properties, making it ideal for boats.

HP Injector improves engine life. It prevents engine damage from deposits that cause ring sticking and ring jacking (carbon build-up behind the ring, forcing it outward), a phenomenon that occurs in modern DFI outboard motors. HP Injector reduces wear. It has excellent lubricity properties and provides a good lubricating oil film, protecting pistons and bearings. HP Injector inhibits rust, an important feature where motors are subjected to water. HP Injector provides superior performance in direct fuel injected (DFI), electronic fuel injected (EFI) and carbureted outboard motors, as well as other recreational equipment.

Applications (see Two-Cycle Recommendations Chart)

HP Injector is recommended for use in all two-cycle outboard motors including, but not limited to, Mercury® EFI & Optimax®, Johnson® and Evinrude® FICHT® and E-TEC™, Yamaha® HPDI, Nissan® and Tohatsu® TLDI®, Suzuki®, Mariner® and Force®. Also recommended for use in all two-cycle personal watercraft and jet boats, as well as snowmobiles, motorcycles and ATVs.

Use as injection oil or as 50:1 pre-mix (2.6 oz. per U.S. gallon of gas) where NMMA TC-W3 or API TC oils are specified. Compatible with mineral and synthetic TC-W3 type two-cycle oils, however, mixing two-cycle oils should be minimized.

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Several years ago I switched to Amsoil for my 175 EFI. I noticed two things, one is that my oil bill got a lot more expensive, the other is that boat mechanics generally think it belongs in snowmobiles but not in boats. I never noticed any benefits like less smoke, cleaner or smoother running, more power, less oil consumption, or any of the other claims the company makes. With my new boat (175 Opti) I am not using Amsoil.

BTW, I've got 2 gallons of Amsoil 2 stroke injector oil if someone wants to make me an offer for them .....

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Geez, I've got a 175 EFI Merc and I would not put anything else but Ams. It's a world of difference IMO. Merc oil $19/gallon - Amsoil $22. I'll pay the difference.

PJ, if you are up in my neck of the woods I would gladly offer to take it off your hands. grin.gif

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