Fantasy scoring points (your opinions) please...

[rundrave]

I wanted to bring up this question to see what some of you guys think.

We are in the process of setting up our fantasy season here at work and cant decide on point scoring for touchdowns.

The issue is with points rewarded for a player scoring a touchdown. Currently we have it set up with 6 points for a passing TD and 6 points for a rushing TD.

Some prefer to have it 4pts for a passing TD and 6 points for a rushing TD. Reason for this would be that several QB's will probably throw 30+ TD's in season (or 46 like last year) and the best RB is maybe going to score 22/23 TD's.

In my opinion I like the 4pts better because the draft plays a different role now, if you dont get to draft first and select a QB first like Manning or Culpepper and passing TD's are 6pts, your pretty much out of it before the season even begins.

Having a 4pt passing TD makes the other players you draft alot more valuable then having one guy scoring all your points for you. I think it just makes things a little more interesting.

Just like to here your thoughts. Why cant the season begin tomorrow! I cannot wait any longer.

[dwag70]

My work league is 6/6 and it went fine. Mannings Team was out first round on playoff and dante team lost in the Champ game but that had to do with all the running yards he gets.25 yds 1 pt passing 10 yds ruch rec will give more points to the RB also If you draft good it wont matter or add a 1pt for receptions that can bring the RB position up plus

[fishyguy]

I would give less for a passing TD. Giving the same amount of points would make a average QB worth more than a top tier RB. I would hate to think a Joey Harrington or Rex Grossman would be picked ahead of Duece McCallister or comparable. We do 3 for a passing TD and and 6 for a rushing TD

[Down to Earth]

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I would give less for a passing TD. Giving the same amount of points would make a average QB worth more than a top tier RB. I would hate to think a Joey Harrington or Rex Grossman would be picked ahead of Duece McCallister or comparable. We do 3 for a passing TD and and 6 for a rushing TD

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I've played in many leagues that awarded 6 points per passing td and I've NEVER seen a quarterback of the likes of Harrington or Grossman taken before a RB like McAllister or even close to McAllister. Even in my auction league RB go for higher prices than QBs and all tds are 6 points there as well. The only QBs you will see taken ahead of a 1-3 round pick running back is Manning, C-Pep, and McNabb(though I would never take McNabb in the first two rounds).

On that note, I say just put it to a league vote. If your comparing it to RB your not really comparing apples to apples. Either way whether you go with 4 or 6 points, you will still have a majority of QB's out point RBs. Value isn't for the most part found in how many points they score compared to other positions its in supply in demand. Most leagues start 1 QB compared to 2 RB. Depending on league size you can see why RB will still be the hot position come draft day.

[DTro]

Even with a 6/6 a good RB is more valuable. There's a long list of QB's that will score on a weekly basis. The list of consistent RB's is miniscule compared.

[LMITOUT]

Our league went to a performance based scoring system this year and I'm not sure if I'm on board with it yet.

0-20yd TD = 5pts

21-50yd TD = 6pts

51yd+ TD = 7pts

This is for passing, rushing, and receiving TD's. What does everyone think of that scoring system??

We also get 2pts for each 25yds passing, 1pt for every 10yds rushing and receiving.

[james_walleye]

I like being in a yardage league personally. Ours is 1 point for every 10 yards for rushing and recieving and 20 yards = 1 point for the QB. The reason i like the yardage leagues better is that if you have a horse and he doesnt score a TD you still will get points for yardage. Im trying too put my thoughts into words here so you guys know where im coming from. When you get into the playoffs and you have been one of the frontrunning teams all year its awfully tough too get beat out when a guy on the opposing team has 3 carries for 5 yards and 2 TD and you have a guy that has 25 carries for 140 yards but doesnt get a TD. Or a reciever has 2 catches for 19 yards and 2 TD and you have a guy with 8 catches for 115 yards but no TD's. It seems too keep things more "true" in the playoffs and in the whole league over the whole season. The teams that should go on and make the superbowl more often than not do. I hope that explains my thoughts well enough.

[Farley]

I wouldnt say you are "out" if you dont get a top 3 QB in a 6/6 leauge. Put it this way, there are probably 4 to 6 RB's or so that score EVERY week, this is the first tier. QB's there are a top 3 in my opinion that make up the top tier in that position. If you have first pick and take a QB, you will have to take a 2nd tier RB by the time it comes back to you. You really cant rely on just your QB to win your matchups every week. A 2nd tier QB will score you probably 6 less points per week on average (in a 6/6 scoring system) than a 1st tier QB. If you have a 1st tier RB, that makes up your 6 points and then some.

It's all up to the guys in the leauge I guess, dont take offense, this is just my opinion, but I think the only thing you are doing in a 4/6 scoring system is making everyone use the same draft strategy, at least for the first round or two, by taking RB's first.

But to contradict myself, the year I won our FF leauge, I had 10th out of 12 picks, took Peyton Manning first then Marvin Harrison. Ended up drafting Jamal Lewis in the 5th round (this was his 300yd in a single game season, also the season Manning threw 6 TD's in one game) and ended up trading Michael Pittman and Pennington for a hurt Marshall Faulk halfway through the season and he also lit it up at the end of the season when he came back. Manning, Lewis, Faulk, Harrison, Galloway, Elam and Pack def was my starting lineup through the playoffs. MAn, that was a dream team.

[Tripleplay]

I personally play in three leagues with varied passing scoring setups. One league doubles touchdown points for scores over 50 yards and has passing touchdowns at 6 points (12 points for the big ones!), another has passing TD's at 5 pts and the last at 4pts. Each league has nuances that affect the scoring for QB's as well, such as negative points for interceptions in the 5pt league. The 6pt league also only gives yardage points of an extra 3pts at 250yds passing and then in 50yd increments so less yardage scoring for sure (also team QB's not the individuals so you can survive injuries). What I can say is that I prefer the 4pt scoring for a QB or the 5pt with the minus 2 pts for interceptions.

Historically, the 5pt league usually has QB's as 8 or 9 of the highest scorers at the end of the season. I still don't go out and grab a QB early usually because fantasy football is based on the "differences" when comparing each position so would I rather have a Deuce and take the number 8 or 9 QB, because Deuce is worth a certain amount of points each week over what I might end up with a lower rated RB instead.

If your league goes with 6pts per passing touchdown it may push up Manning and Culpepper into the top 10, but then those teams have to live with what they are going to get for their top RB and certainly they will have some issues at #2 RB. Alot depends on where Culpepper goes. If he goes at #9 or 10 then that owner will likely get a pretty decent top RB and can probably stretch on one of the rookies in the third or fourth rounds which doesn't sound to bad right now. If Manning goes top three, then the RB's should be pretty well picked over which will even it out for the other owners.

I saw ESPN had only Manning in the top 10 on Sportscenter last night which meant 9 RB's in the top 10. Not sure what their scoring system is but it definitely isn't 6pts for each passing TD or he'd have been alot higher.

Less than two weeks to the first draft and I'm sure getting fired up.

[james_walleye]

I dont know that a 4/6 draft strategy makes everyone take RB's anymore than a 6/6 does. Lets face it if you dont take a RB in the first 2 rounds the probability is your in big troubles. Not impossible, but pretty tough too have a winning team without a RB in the first 2 rounds. Sure you can get a sleeper later on like a Mcgahee last year but he didnt touch the field until the middle of the season. My strategy has always been take what comes too me in the first round, the last 3 years its been Moss at about pick 8 or 10, but in that case i went RB in the 2nd round. I guess i dont feel the 6/6 would change this because all QB's are going too have higher scores. I've always felt that a passing TD shouldnt score as high as a rushing or recieving TD. Its a pretty regular thing too see a QB throw 3 TD but too see a guy get 3 rushing or recieving is special, hence those TD's should be worth more in my opinion.

[Jarrod32]

I play in two different leagues, and one uses 6 points for a passing TD, and the other uses 4. Where the passing TD is worth 6, the top QBs tend to work their way into the top 10 with the top RB, and the mid-tier QB (four through about 12 or 13 on most draft boards) get mixed in with the next few dozen players.

When the passing TD is worth 4, the top few QB's tend to work their way into the top 20 overall, and the rest are fourth or fifth round picks (because there are so many comparable). I guess I don't have a strong preference either way, but I do like the 4-point for passing TD a little better.

We used to double points for 50+ yard scores, but that got pretty ridiculous. Now we go 'half again'. That is, if a TD is worth 6, one over 50 yards is now worth 9 (instead of 12). I think that is much better.

As far as yardage, I don't think it's either here nor there. If you give a point for every 10 or 20 yards rushing/receiving, everyone's starting lineup will get their yardage points...cancelling each other out in head to head. Whether you have it or not, it's still an even playing field.

But without yardage, then guys like Alstott (TB) and Crockett (Oak, but maybe not this year) will be valuable. One of my leagues has never done yardage, (except that we give a 3-point bonus for a 100 yard rushing/recieving game), so guys like Alstott have been fairly high picks (Tom Rathmann of the 49ers in years past was always a favorite for his goal line carries).

Either way is fine with me...because everyone goes in on an even playing field.