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I have used it in several older 2 stroke outboards when mixed gas was required. I ran it as lean as 100:1 without problems. It works very well and the older finickey outboards just seem to run smoother on the leaner gas mixture.

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Ran it in my 25 horse Yamaha and it worked great. Easy starts was the best part. Im now running Amsoil 4 stroke oil in my 115 Yamaha 4 stroke and its good stuff. Nothing but good luck with it. I also use their lower unit lube and it seems to be working fine as well.

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I have heard a lot about how great the oil is for 2 cycle. As I understand, one mix will work for any 2 cycle engine, regardless of the recommended mix? But is there a different oil for outboards (water cooled) than for other little air cooled engines? I would sure like to get away from having 4 different gas cans for mixed fuel.

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I believe they do have a special oil for outboards. It is still 100:1 ratio. From what I was told that the outboards run cooler than other small engine because they are water cooled compared to air cooled. If you check the Amsoil web site I think that will answer any questions. There is probly a oil also if your motor has oil injection.

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I run the Cenex brand air cooled oil right now and I have noticed it smokes alot sometimes. I have a smaller 2 stroke mercury motor so is there any specific one I should get? Will there be any problems switching oils? Which places carry it?

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We use the red Dominator in the race bikes and have never had an oil related failure and extremely low wear. Use their Interceptor in snomo, jet, outboard, chainsaw, whacker with same results. I just wish the Interceptor had a coloring agent in it. Is Amsoil listening here?

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MrWalleye2005, You bought injector oil for your premix tank??? DON'T mix it up!! You should have bought Sabre Outboard 100:1 Pre-mix. From your other posts, you indicate that you run a 3 gal portable tank, and injector oil is the wrong stuff to be using for pre-mix. Call me @ 507-276-0422, I'll try to help ya out. Phred52

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I emailed Ams oil and they told me to take the hp injector back and get the Saber Outboard 100:1 oil. I looked at Gander in Mankato and they only had the hp injector and dominator Ams oil. I seen there was a Ams oil dealer at Heartland Repair so I just ordered the Saber threw them.

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I just purchased Amsoil 100-1 premix oil for all my 2 stroke engines.Is there anything I should know about this?It is for a whole variety of 2 stroke engines from what I read on the back of the bottle.

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jltimm, Which did you buy??? By what you stated, I'd guess you bought the "Professional". The correct Amsoil for the pre-mix outboard tank is the Amsoil Sabre Outboard Synthetic 100:1 Pre-mix 2-cycle oil". It has the additives that meet or exceed the requirements of TC-W3 and API-TC motors. It's designed with lower temperature dispersants for water cooled systems. On the other hand, Sabre Professional Synthetic 100:1 pre-mix 2 cycle oil" has high temperature detergents for small power equipment such as leaf blowers,chain saws, and weed whips, etc. I'd imagine the outboard would work in the saw, but more than likely, not the other way around (for long). I've run the "Sabre Outboard" in a '77 Johnson 35hp with only praise for the product. I've only recently (2 years) started using Amsoil in my other 2-cycles with no problems, at the 100:1 ratio. Chainsaw, weed-whip, and Ice-auger. I definitely have seen, an increase in power, throttle response and smoke/odor. Now my truck is in my sights!! BTW, I order from their HSOforum, GREAT service!

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This oil says Amsoil Pre-Mix 100-1.It says it is to be used in everything but high performance 2 stroke engines.It has the TCW3 and the other things you mentioned.It says it is recommended for outboards also.

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I just looked on there site and the Saber Professional 100:1 is not recommended for outboards, it is not a tc w3 oil. Saber Professional (ATP) is specifically designed for small engines including, but not limited to, chain saws, lawn equipment, blowers, chop saws, pumps, scooters and go-carts. It is also very good for use in motorcycles, snowmobiles and ATVs.

Saber Outboard (ATO) is specifically designed for outboard motors. It is also very good for personal watercraft, jet boats, motorcycles, snowmobiles and ATVs. Saber Outboard contains a heavy dose of lower temperature dispersant additives that excel at preventing varnish and deposits from forming in water-cooled motors. Saber Outboard is a very low smoke, low odor, low toxicity product that produces lower emissions at 100:1 mix ratios than oils mixed at 50:1. It is ideal for trolling motors as lean mix ratios reduce “oil loading” and plug fouling for rapid throttle response. Operators and the environment benefit from the use of Saber Outboard. It is recommended for pre-mix use where TC-W3 or API TC is specified.

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jltimm, I've been using that same oil you have in my outboards with great results, the bottles I get state that it's also recommended for air cooled engines also with the following ratings TC-W3, API TC, JASO FC. it also wors great in my strikemaster,weedwacker and in the chainsaw I run 80-1 if I'm cutting big stuff. I've yet to wear out anything I own. grin.gif

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I'm planning on using it in my Stihl chainsaws once I use up all my Stihl 2 stroke oil I purchased with the saws.Then,when I cut firewood,maybe I won't smell like 2 stroke smoke when I'm done?The Strikemaster will be using it as well.

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The owner of Twin Lakes NAPA auto store in Waterville Mn.told me he would have Sabre Amsoil by the middle of this week in pints, he also handles other amsoil oils.

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I have a Evinrude 2stroke 1989 110 VRO oil injected Motor.Can I use the sabal oil in that and can I mix the oil I have in my reserve now(evinrude oil) with that. Any help would be great.--- confused.gif

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I wouldnt recommend mixing different brand oils in a tank. I would run the tank dry and then put the other oil in. The hp injector oil is the one for oil injected motors. The Saber Outboard oil is for pre mixing with gas. Im not sure how well the Saber oil would work with oil injected motors, the hp injector one is specifically made for oil injection motors.

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Read the bottle carefully. It says "Recommended for TC-W3, API TC applications". It doesn't say it is TCW-3 certified. Anyone can go to the NMMA.org HSOforum, click on certifications, and see which oils are TCW-3 certified. Amsoil either doesn't want to pay for the relevant testing, or their product does not meet TCW-3 specifications.

Why do I care? My outboard was designed to run using TCW-3 oil, any brand of TCW-3 oil. AMSOIL has all this great R&D to design the best oil, but they can't get the ONE certification relevant to outboards?

Go on any off-shore fishing board and ask what those guys are running in their motors. They put a lot of hours on, they depend on the reliability of their motors - they are running TCW-3 oils.

Tim

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This oil says Amsoil Pre-Mix 100-1.It says it is to be used in everything but high performance 2 stroke engines.It has the TCW3 and the other things you mentioned.It says it is recommended for outboards also.


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