Toxic broadheads.

[leech~~]

Wow, anyone use these? Another bleed out video of a Moose hit by a Toxic broadhead at 12 yards. The design looks pretty interesting.

Viewer discretion is advised!

 

 

 

Edited January 8, 2016 by leech~~

[Scoot]

Just my opinion here, but I see this as a gimmick.  A standard fixed blade head, any standard fixed head, will provide a much more solid cutting surface that is far less likely to fail when it meets something hard (like bone).  Any head, including this one, will make very short work of a critter with a shot that doesn't hit bone and wipes out significant plumbing.  Definitely not for me and like I said, I see a gimmick with this. 

 

[leech~~]

On 1/8/2016 at 7:47 AM, Scoot said:

Just my opinion here, but I see this as a gimmick.  A standard fixed blade head, any standard fixed head, will provide a much more solid cutting surface that is far less likely to fail when it meets something hard (like bone).  Any head, including this one, will make very short work of a critter with a shot that doesn't hit bone and wipes out significant plumbing.  Definitely not for me and like I said, I see a gimmick with this. 

 

It seem to cut a pretty big entry hole. There are some more test videos of it on the tube. Each blade cuts it's own hole with all of them making one large entry wound. I'm not counting this one out yet.

[creepworm]

16 minutes ago, Scoot said:

Just my opinion here, but I see this as a gimmick.  A standard fixed blade head, any standard fixed head, will provide a much more solid cutting surface that is far less likely to fail when it meets something hard (like bone).  Any head, including this one, will make very short work of a critter with a shot that doesn't hit bone and wipes out significant plumbing.  Definitely not for me and like I said, I see a gimmick with this. 

 

Agreed!

[leechlake]

I think that most times we don't see an animals final moments and many times they aren't too far off of that.  I hate seing it and would rather live in ignorant bliss and have the animal run far enough away for me not to have too. 

I have no clue but I'd wager they have plenty of footage that is just "normal" stuff where an animal got shot in the lungs and ran away and died.  Frankly, that video would make me not want to buy the broadhead...gouriness, amped up music...no thanks.

I've made bad shots but my game plan isn't too buy a broadhead with the plan of making a horrible shot on a huge animal from 12 yards.  

[Scoot]

22 hours ago, leech~~ said:

 

 It seemed like you were looking for info about these heads, so I offered my opinion on them.  If you don't like it, please feel free to ignore.  If you want to try them, give them a shot! 

I've seen that video before- it's a cool video!  The things that really struck me about it, I already commented on.  First, the guy made a terrible shot at very, very close range.  Second, the penetration was pretty terrible.  I don't know why the penetration was so bad, but it was not good at all.  Obviously it worked out ok as far as getting a quick kill, but when hunting big boned animals like moose or elk the number one thing I'm looking for in a good head is penetration.  This is why I choose reasonably small fixed blad heads that are cut on contact, razor sharp, don't have a huge diameter, and don't have too aggressive of an angle- all of these things help with penetration.  With regard to that, that shot (and the related broadhead) was a real failure.  I know the blood bath that followed was impressive and will likely help sell some of the heads, but it really doesn't say anything helpful about the head IMO.  The design of this head is based on a pretty flimsy, curvy blade that simply can't compare in strength to a (good) fixed blade head.  As I mentioned before- do some digging online and you'll see a lot of people who understand broadheads (engineering of a good head, good head design) see pretty significant flaws in these heads.  However, it definitely piques a lot of people's curiosity.  If yours is sufficiently piqued and you want to try them, go ahead and do so.  I certainly have no horse in the race as to which broadhead you shoot.  Just trying to offer an opinion and some helpful info.  Of course, in life (and especially online), everyone has an opinion. 

I believe at one point these types of broadheads weren't legal in MN-- something about one plane cutting edges (can't remember the details).  That may not be the case anymore, but might be worth double checking on before you get them. 

[rkhinrichs]

Any broadhead will kill if put in the right spot! I remember the good ole days of the rage vs muzzy debate!!! Before they were owned by the same company.

[MattL]

There's alot of surface area with those blades which means they'll do some damage if placed in the right spot, but all that surface area is going to greatly reduce penetration. I'll continue to stick with the tried and true 3 blade fixed heads. 

[leech~~]

Agreed penetration is the #1 important consideration when picking out a broadhead.

Second to me is wound channel for good tissue damage and bleed out.

You can have a pass through shot and if it doesn't have a good wound channel, you can still lose that Deer if it doesn't bleed well heading out of the shot area to track it.

That is why we use soft point bullets for rifle hunting and not full metal jacket bullets because it's not always about penetration, but tissue damage.

That being said, I have no skin in this game and have always used a fixed 3 blade head. I just like to have an open mind and this head without a doubt leaves a nice big wound channel.

https://youtu.be/ttJG5B5S3NI

[Down2Earth]

Get a rage and move on.

[leech~~]

9 hours ago, Down2Earth said:

Get a rage and move on.

Tried Rage, didn't work to well. Just got me in trouble!

[Barbelboy]

Any broad head in the right spot will kill. I proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt this year. I killed my buck with a

rage broad head..........a practice rage broad head. I won't get into the specifics, but it was my mistake why it was on the bow, but I put the arrow right into his Aorta. He went 40 yards.

Bottom line, pick your favorite broad head, but practice a lot with your bow and only take good shots.

Edited January 12, 2016 by Barbelboy