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Another help me chose an auger thread... SO frustrated


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I'm pretty sure Joe is either.A. mechanically inclined and would not even have a clue as to be able to run such a fine gas auger, without walking to the nearest guy fishing and ask for help. Or B. he drives himself a slick Suv that if a drip of fuel were to ever fall on the upholstery his other half may just take his fishing privileges away....just a hunch

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I'm pretty sure Joe is either.A. mechanically inclined and would not even have a clue as to be able to run such a fine gas auger, without walking to the nearest guy fishing and ask for help. Or B. he drives himself a slick Suv that if a drip of fuel were to ever fall on the upholstery his other half may just take his fishing privileges away....just a hunch

Um... You should probably figure out what " Mechanically Inclined" means before you try using it as an insult in an instance like this....lol nice try

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One thing I think would benefit sales from potential buyers is to offer a battery replacement program. If Strikemaster and Ardisam offered a free battery replacement every 4 years, no sooner, no later, no questions asked warranty I feel a lot more guys would be prone to buying them. Including me. I just cant image spending $150-$300 on a battery every 3-5 years.

I wonder if a design could be done that could be cost effectively rebuilt by a place like batteries plus? I know L/I batteries have circuitry other battery types don't but there has to be a way they could design a cartridge type kit for less money.

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With NiCad batteries on their way out and most everything moving to Lithium, I'm confident these batteries will be "rechargeable" in the near future by places like Batteries +
but you said earlier you would "bring it down to a Batteries+ store, and they replace the cells inside..." which is it? Can they or can't they?

So to be sure you won't run out of juice you better buy a second battery out of the gate complete with another binky.

That's another $140 to $200 on top of the price that's already higher than you can get a gas auger.

I have used 1/4 of a tank of gas this year and drilled more holes than I could ever fish.

I'm surprised the ions aren't blue because you have to be a smurf to use one. Those things are short!

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Go read before you reply.... I specifically said " IF I had a battery issue in 5 years I would bring it to a place like Batteries+ and get it recharged". I'm confident it will be a cheap easy fix for them by then with pretty much all battery powered tools and yard equipment exclusively use Lithium now. $200 for an Ion battery? Msrp for a spare battery is $150, you're a sucker if you pay msrp for anything nowadays as a 30 second search online saves you $$ and no sales tax, or wait a few weeks and get one on clearance for around $110...$110 over 5-7 years is cheap.

The short auger joke is just plain stupid....why carry a 48" auger for the 1st half of the ice season when it's not needed, once the ice gets thicker mid January/ February then I throw my extension on, saves on weight and makes it easier to handle/store...

The more you reply, the more you lose this argument....

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FYI Joe the " not so " didn't make the post. Basically what it comes down to is personal preference. Sure it would be nice to have an auger for every occasion, thin ice, thick ice, wheel house or portable fishing. I have to admit electric products have come a long ways over the past years, but hands down the gas will always out perform battery powered anything.

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I've always said, if you drill more than 40 holes then a gas auger wins out, but less than 40 holes and gas augers don't stand a chance...get a spare battery and an electric wins out over gas for 95% of ice anglers...those who drill more than 80 holes a day is pretty rare...

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Why use an auger nowadays? Isn't it easier to drive down a channel and just fish the hole your truck makes? whistlecrazy

In all seriousness, I have an older jiffy lite model 70? That I get when I was 16. Runs like a champ still, but recently (5 years or so) got a newer jiffy 2500 and love it. Nothing happened to it yet. Well, the cheap fuel line they use on them was replaced with tygon. Not a "one pull" starter, but 4 or 5 after sitting in the back of my truck the entire winter.

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Go read before you reply.... I specifically said " IF I had a battery issue in 5 years I would bring it to a place like Batteries+ and get it recharged"

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I quoted you so I'm quite sure you said "replace cells" not get it "recharged". Its on page 4 if you want to read it again for yourself.

Whose arguing? I'm just poking holes in your opinion.

Just curious when was the last time there was a recall on a gas auger? Since strike master just recalled their electric.

BTW its not a matter of the length of the shaft to get through depth of the ice its standing at awkward positions and bending over to drill. So add a 12" extension to the $140 additional battery. Wow this is getting spendy. Then in a few years you have to buy two more batteries or have the "cells replaced" as you hope will be the case. Sounds brilliant.

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Why would I add a 12" extension, the auger comes with one....you can get a 24" extension if your panties start riding up when drilling a hole...replace/recharge battery cells....both are options that ultimately do the same thing.... So you're saying gas augers have never had recalls? Lol, you're a joke, stop sniffing your auger fumes...

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6" Nils hand auger. First and foremost you need to get through the ice. I have never used anything easier by hand and sure others will agree. Even with 30" of ice I could drill a couple holes by hand without a heart attack and fish some gps coordinates for an afternoon. I bought mine on clearance for 90$ 3 years ago. I just seen some in stock going for 109$. Have to be on the ball when these go on sale. They go fast.

Save your change, recycle, ten dollars a week into a kitty etc until you have 360$ for Tanaka TED-270PFDH. Only thing I have done to it is replaced the stock champion spark plug to a NGK just on preference. Industrial Grade.

Sure many people are not fans of 6" hole. For my permanent I recently purchased a 10" ion bit and having my friend machine an adapter to spin it with the Tanaka. Figured if a battery can spin it so should the Gasser.

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Bought the Strikemaster Honda 10" at the end of last season and haven't looked back, it's been an awesome auger and I don't miss the Electra. Don't notice any fumes in the house, NOTHING like the 2 stroke was. I think it's the perfect auger for someone who likes to hole hop AND has a hard house.

Thanks Redliner for posting!! You were in the same boat as I was!!!

So the four stroke, burning gas only, doesn't 'fume up' your house??

Anybody else have any experience with the Strikemaster Honda? The online reviews are all over the map, some people like it some people hate it.

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I have the Strikemaster with the Honda, it's amazing. I had the 2 stroke lazer before this and it runs way better... It's quiet, odorless, and doesn't leave any black residue. A 3 year old could pull start it, it's that easy. I just about have it down to where I can have it running on one pull, sometimes 2. The idea of replacing batteries is just funny to me

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I have the Strikemaster with the Honda, it's amazing. I had the 2 stroke lazer before this and it runs way better... It's quiet, odorless, and doesn't leave any black residue. A 3 year old could pull start it, it's that easy. I just about have it down to where I can have it running on one pull, sometimes 2. The idea of replacing batteries is just funny to me

Brian, do you run your Strikemaster Honda inside a fishhouse??

How long has Strikemaster been putting these Honda engines on augers?? I thought the Solo engines were supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread but now they're using the Hondas??!

Don't get me wrong, I love my Strikemaster Lazer-mag, its 15+ years old and still starts on the third pull every time, cuts like a top, I'd hate to see it go down the road but I would really, really like to get down to one auger.

Not many bad reports on the ION, I just feel like I'd be compelled to get a second battery right away so I wouldn't run out of battery, then the idea of spending hundreds of dollars again in 3-4 years to replace batteries galls at me.

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Where is this replace the battery in 3-4 year information coming from? (people who don't own Ion's)

There have already been countless original Ion owners who've responded that their battery runs just as strong today as it did the day they bought it...this is year #3 for them...I'm on year #2 and same thing, just as strong... Ion battery engineers have said the battery lasts 700+ charge cycles....I don't know how much you get out on the ice, but lets say for easy math & arguments sake a ridiculous 100 days per ice fishing season, that's easily 7+ years or 28,000+ holes drilled before the battery will START to lose effectiveness....again this is based off of 40 holes through 24" of ice... If you drill more than 40 holes an outing, either get a spare battery to max out at 80 holes or buy a gas auger....

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Joe do you own any other tools with lithium batteries? If you do you should already know how ridiculous your 7+ years calculation is.

I have multiple tools that use lithium batteries. Some tools almost 10 years old while others are less than a year. The 10 year old tools are on their 3rd set of batteries. That's roughly 4 years per. Not a great avg. When I bought the drill it was advertised as "1000 charge cycles". Well, nowhere near that. Not even half I am sure.

Battery life is getting better and its great there are a multitude of options for consumers to choose from. Each has a multitude of plusses and minusses.

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I'd say to anyone that is having problems with black streaks from 2 strokes on your walls is that you are running your auger way too rich or you have low quality/old oil in your motor. Go try some Amsoil and you will totally eliminate it. I've never had that problem and I drill in a house all the time and I'm not running mine very lean. Mine is around 55 to 1 and runs great. I just open the windows when I drill and in a couple minutes the smoke and smell is all gone. Wouldn't trade my Lazer Pro for anything. You can really tell a difference with the 3 hp when you are at the bottom of the hole, especially now that there is more ice.

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Where is this replace the battery in 3-4 year information coming from? (people who don't own Ion's)

Anyone with experience with Lithium Ion knows that the batteries perform well, last long on one charge, and charge fast... BUT they do not have a long lifespan. I wouldn't even worry about the number of charge cycles that the company claims, it's not going to be accurate. I have had lots of experience with both DeWalt and Makita Lithium Ion tools, and there is NO way that the average battery lasts over 4 years. My old Ni-HM Makita tools still have batteries that will take a charge, but I would never expect the new style batteries to go over 3-4 years (because I have never seen it, on probably 12+ lithium ion batteries).

Maybe a little company like Ion has something figured out that the multi-million dollar tool companies don't know, but if I was a betting man I would gladly take the under on an over/under bet of a 4 year life span on an Ion battery.

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