I am in a knot slump!!!

[Mr. Sheephead]

Lost 6 expensive ice jigs this past weekend. Two were pike the rest were bad knots. I am using .004 dia. 2 lb pound test p-line that I believe is good line (not old) for blue gills. The first two were a palomar knot. I think the palomar weakens the line above the knot. I need some knot help. I do always wet the line. Any tips would be great.

Thanks

[BartmanMN]

Palomar knot is a good not. Try keeping it loose until down to they eyelet, then sync it up. That way you are not thinning out the line above the knot.

[Evobassfish]

Its not the knot. When using that light of a line you gotta make sure everything is working properly together. Gotta make sure the drag is set properly on the reel.

[JoeTC]

Is it fluorocarbon pline? If so, I'd try a pitzen knot, otherwise you may just not be tying a good palomar. If you think the line is weakening above the knot you're probably sinching the tag end before the main line.

Joe

[slick2526]

Lost 6 expensive ice jigs this past weekend. Two were pike the rest were bad knots. I am using .004 dia. 2 lb pound test p-line that I believe is good line (not old) for blue gills. The first two were a palomar knot. I think the palomar weakens the line above the knot. I need some knot help. I do always wet the line. Any tips would be great.

Thanks

have had the same problem when I am using a palomar and I believe what you say also about weakening the line above the knot. Anything under six pound test I stick to the trilene knot with mono or any type of non braid or super line. Maybe I am not tightening mine correctly either But I have used the knot with lots of other lines and no problems.

[stpaulslouch]

have had the same problem when I am using a palomar and I believe what you say also about weakening the line above the knot. Anything under six pound test I stick to the trilene knot with mono or any type of non braid or super line. Maybe I am not tightening mine correctly either But I have used the knot with lots of other lines and no problems.

I also recommends the surgeons knot when using tungsten or other small jigs.

[skillet]

Your such a Thunderpumper. I like to use the knot on the back of the Fiska package. Not sure what its officially called. I have found it to be very strong and it seems to reduce some of the spinning of the jig. Of course we already had that discussion this past weekend. Any one else try that knot?

[B-man715]

Your such a Thunderpumper. I like to use the knot on the back of the Fiska package. Not sure what its officially called. I have found it to be very strong and it seems to reduce some of the spinning of the jig. Of course we already had that discussion this past weekend. Any one else try that knot?

I think they have the Palomar knot on the back.

[Esox_Magnum]

I use a Trilene knot on everything and never an issue as long as the line is good

[3pronghook]

are you nicking the line when youre removing fish? hook removal with a forceps? doesn't take much on 2lb line.

[picksbigwagon]

I have been tying a hang man's noose for a knot for about a decade, never had a problem, never lost a lure ( knock on wood). But I also use a palomar with braided line and anything above 10#

[Mcfin]

Use heavier line.

[gill man]

I also use the Trilene knot for anything I tie to any line (other than my musky leaders to 80 lb braid) and I rarely have knot issues. With light line, I think it's very important to make sure the knot stays wet and to also tighten it down slowly and carefully to make sure the line above the knot doesn't abraid at all.

Tucker

[Pleasant]

I am another one that uses Trilene knot exclusively, another knot that is awesome is the Six-turn San Diego jam, but it is very difficult for me to tie it with old, cold fingers

[two cups]

I was using fluorocarbon line as a leader in my fish house as leaders for the rattle lines. For about 2 or 3 years I tried different knots, brands of line and I would keep on breaking the line on some of the hook sets on walleyes. It happened enough times that it really got me mad. I tried everyone's ideas from here. Finally I just went back to Trilene mono line and I don't break it on the hook set. My theory is that the fluorocarbon lines do not work good in the cold, I have no trouble using it in the summer as leaders. Even if my theory is wrong about the cold, I really don't think my catch is less using mono. There is not anything worst than when the rattle reel goes off and you are hoping the line or knot will not break, with momo that thought had disappeared. Rick

[NKLCOLT1911]

use braid 6# braid is 2# dia mono equivalent

[Farley]

I use palomer knot on lots of my jigs. I havent had a knot fail since I learned to use the tag end more when tightening and make sure everything is comming together good before cinching tight. its the strongest knot (95% tensile strength). if its thinning the line then you are tightening it before the knot is close enough to the eyelet.

Dont forget to lube!

animated knots by gorg (sp?) (google it) is a great HSOforum.

[Invader440]

Only knot I've ever used is the improved clinch and I've never had a problem with it failing.

[MaxGoldman]

I have only used an improved clinch on mono and flouro and have never had issues. Palomar knot for all braided, I've never tried a palomar for anything but braid, definitely one of the easiest to tie though, I may have to test it out on other lines.

[eyeguy 54]

drag right and trilene knot on all my stuff. what ever knot you tie lick it before you cinch it. reduces the heat.