DRH1175 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Are the Fly rod combo's here to stay or a fad? I am looking to buy one to add to my rod collection. However I was talking to a rod expert who thought it was really just a fad. They become quite clumsy in deeper water. Clam and Genz sells a combo. Yet when you talk to Dave Genz or watch his fishing clips he is always using a spinning rod. I could see where they may be nice in 10 ft of water or so. What's everyones honest thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mww24 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 The schooley style reels have been around a while. I dont think its a fad. They have their place in a rod arsenal if you ask me. For finicky shallow panfish they fit that niche. would I use one to fish crappies 30 ft under the ice. Probably not. But 20 feet and less I think they will be here to stay.id be willing to bet genz is on TV with a genz spinning combo because they sell more than fly reels. Hes going to plug what his company sells a lot of to keep those sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esox_Magnum Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 My go to in less than 15' is a Okuma SLV 2/3 fly reel, for deeper applications I just got a Black Betty 6061 with 2:7:1 retive... I can see myself going to more of these type reels and getting away from the typical spinning gear....I think they are here to stay but wont be for everyone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whateverzbitin Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I enjoy using them in shallower water. I have had no issues in water up to around 15 feet or so. It might take a few more seconds to drop, but I would rather not have to deal with line twist. I don't really see it as a question of being a fad. Fly reels aren't going away, so if you like that style you will always be able to do it weather they are selling combos or not. Unless there are significant budget issues at play I would give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I have been using the EC for a few weeks now open water. It has been a real pleasure to use so far. I nothing bad to say about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamms-scooter Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I have used schooleys a while and mainly fish 25 ft and less. I ws thinking of a black betty this year but only see one at the stores with the 1 to 1 retrieve. Any good place to get the better retrieve esox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esox_Magnum Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Not that I'm aware of other than the online classifides, the 6061 was a limited run and only enough were made to fill whatever dealers wanted to order in August, all retailers I know that got them pre sold the majority of them the few left over sold out fast.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishin4fun_MN Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I have 4 total In-line/Fly reels and only plan to use 3 this winter as I do not have enough rods. I will not be eliminating my spinning and/or casting reels that I have. I will be needing them for deeper lakes and larger game fish such as walleye and northern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunniewally Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 SMALL BAIT CASTER WORKS MUCH BETTER IN MY OPINION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esox_Magnum Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I tried the small baitcasters,big issue is finding panfish rods in a casting rod wasnt impressed hence the switch to fly type reels.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishin4fun_MN Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I had a custom casting rod made and even then I couldn't tell the difference as I think the rod maker got confused about what I wanted. Used it as a gift to my father and he seems to love it. If you want a good rod for a bait caster, I would recommend a custom...be a lot easier than trying to find one. I think Clam Jason Mitchell rods come in both spinning and casting versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esox_Magnum Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 mush easier to find a good spinning rod at the bait shop and know exactly what your buying, plus jigging with a baitcaster was a little odd feeling...I prefer the pencily grip style of a spinning rod for betterlure control... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog1101 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I use my fly reel in water up to 20 feet or so. I wouldn't go back to a spinning reel for this sort of application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
live4chrome Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 The 241 frabils let you fish deep with a 2.4 : 1 gear ratio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Cloud Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Im 5 years into the "fad" and dont see it ending for me I really enjoy ice fishing with fly reels. Use em up to about 30 ft of water at times. With multipling reels like the BB 6061 and thier ability to fish deeper easier, I wont be using my spinning reel rigs too much. That being said, they are not for everybody or every situation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberfish Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I have used Schooley reels for panfish for almost 30 years. went to spinning reels for a while in the mid 1990s, then switched back to the shooleys for the most part, so using all spinning reels was the "fad" for me, though I still use them for heavier presentations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garett Svir Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I have always been a spinning reel guy. I picked up a Black Betty at the St. Paul Show and finally got to fish it the other day. I must say that I really liked it. I think that for me the fad is here to stay. I have tried using small fly reels before but found them so uncomfortable to hold. Many of these new models have a large foot on the reel and can be held like spinning gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbfenatic Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I have the BB not the 6061 and used it once....have not used it in the following 6 trips out. Within 2 minutes I had it so messed up I I had to break off, set it aside, and grab a spinning reel....and I was in a shallow spot catching gills and crappies so no time to mess with it. I use left hand and the drag set is on the same side, set it to the proper drag but when reeling it would also adjust the drag to lose and then it wrapped around the drag knob. Going to have to give it another try when I am set up in a more permanent situation and play with it.....might have to switch the handle to the other side and see if that helps but then it will be only rod with right hand reel...oh well; I bought into the hype and need to decide whether it becomes part of my arsenal soon or an hsolist item for $15!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyFishin Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I have used schooleys a while and mainly fish 25 ft and less. I ws thinking of a black betty this year but only see one at the stores with the 1 to 1 retrieve. Any good place to get the better retrieve esox? I called their 800 number and talked to Matt, seems Scheel's is getting 6061's right now. They weren't on the list of guys taking pre-orders and didn't show up at the Ice Show in St. Paul...apparently they have a fair pile of them in a few locations. And to the original OP, I've used the Spooler and original BB twice now this season, both of which I enjoyed. Took a bit more getting used to, and I'm not if it's the lack of line twist or just something new that I enjoy...but I do know that I'm a fan of this style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sheephead Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Inline reels are the real deal. However, they are not even close to where they need to be. When a company gets it figured out. This with out a doubt is the wave of the ice fishing future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathogen Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I jumped on the bandwagon and got an Okuma SLV 2/3 fly reel. I know a lot of guys love the fly reel for ice fishing but for me it was just a flash in the pan and I rarely use it. I didn't think the benefit outweighed the hassles. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Uran Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 More than a fad for me, I enjoy using the reels, I think the benefit of not having your jig spinning will make your line, especially your light line last longer. Also the added benefit of having a jig that doesn't spin in front of a negative mooded fish helps also. Shallow water, and a light, micro presentation is the keys to these though. I don't want to be fishing deep basin fish with them, especially when they are active and aggressive. So far I like my Clam Ice Spooler for what I use it for, and I like my Black Betty also, but I'm leaning towards the Clam Ice Spooler due to the drag features. I've used the BB a few times it has a tendancy to tighten or loosen the drag as you are reeling up, I haven't seen that in the Clam Ice Spooler yet. Heck, I even caught a 7+ lb. northern on it the other night, on 2 lb test! It's definitely an adjustment from using spinning reels, but they do have their time and place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateurfishing Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 why would you label it a fad? just cause its not for use does not mean its a fad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathogen Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Maybe fad was a poor choice of words, perhaps I should have used 'trend'. Only time will tell. I apologize if I ruffled any feathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainbutter Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Here to stay. I hate spinning reels for a variety of reasons, but still get a lot of use out of them, and I know I'm not alone.Give the inline reels 5 years and you're going to see some very well-made tools that have most of the unforeseen kinks worked out.You're going to see some improvements that take away some of the "for shallow water only" arguments as well I bet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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