Who should the Vikes draft?

[YiGGiN4SLoBS]

Kareem Mckenzie, David Deihl - super bowl champs T's Jermon Bushrod- Saints LT, Matt Light- Pats LT Bryant "i beat small guys with clubs" Mckinney Ravens LT Bryan Bulaga- Packers LT

You MUST consider all these players "invaluable studs" then right? These are the best teams in the league, surely theyd have one...

Since your so good at bringing up former draft picks james walley....

REMEMBER the last time we took a LT high in the draft?? BRYANT FRICKIN MCKINNEY

BOY that sure worked wonders for us! Remember that cant- miss- never-gave up a sack in college LT?? LOL

Maybe its me that should get the tylenol. U all have swayed my opinion ZERO

Good Debate though boys, its been fun

[goblueM]

debate? more like playing chess with a pigeon

[james_walleye]

Oh slam...I've been had. I lose. It's kinda like when you argue with your 7 year old and you can never seem to win......ya its like that kind of losing. It's like yes we have to do spelling words tonight....

[YiGGiN4SLoBS]

Yeah ok Goblu, u really took me to school in your own mind...

We all want the vikes to get better and we all agree the o line needs an upgrade. 3 is too high for a Tackle for me, we'll agree to disagree

[YiGGiN4SLoBS]

Oh slam...I've been had. I lose. It's kinda like when you argue with your 7 year old and you can never seem to win......ya its like that kind of losing. It's like yes we have to do spelling words tonight....

Oh, so im wrong about Mckinney James? He was sure an "invaluable stud"... really turned our franchise around

Gosh U guys are so smart, I wont make you argue with a "7 year old" anymore james.

Gimmie a Tackle at 3!

[james_walleye]

I might be wrong, but even more recently we drafted a reciever at 7 that was an even bigger bust. Blue can you Google that for me? Can't seem to remember......

Blake! For the 5th time go get your book, its time to read!

[goblueM]

I didn't take you to school, that would imply you want to learn and have the capability to factually analyze something. Also, I don't want the vikes to get better, I'm a lions fan. I'm objectively analyzing the best pick for the Vikings.

Kalil is a no-brainer pick for the Vikings. good teams are built in the trenches. You can't find a single NFL analyst that would advise against selecting a stud LT in the draft

[YiGGiN4SLoBS]

I might be wrong, but even more recently we drafted a reciever at 7 that was an even bigger bust. Blue can you Google that for me? Can't seem to remember......

Blake! For the 5th time go get your book, its time to read!

What is it with you bringing up wr busts all the time? Im not the one thats pigeon holed into drafting 1 position, LT, with the 3rd overall pick here. I said any skill position with 3 or trade down for offensive line help and thats been my point the whole time. Is it really that unreasonable where i need to be compared to a 7th grader? I dont think so

[LMITOUT]

San Fransico also did it...huge turn-around for them after 2 1st round O-Lineman picked.

And even more importantly, a competent head coach.

All of the blue chip LT's in the world won't matter with this inept coaching staff.

[james_walleye]

Pigeon holed into 1 position? You got me confused with someone else son. Everyone, everywhere agrees Kalil is the best non qb prospect in the draft. He's also low risk. The best non qb in the draft just happens to also be a huge need. It's a no brainer.

I bring up WR info simply to refute what you say about OL.....in case you didn't realize how much you bring up supposed reasons to not draft an OL. Maybe u already forgot bringing up mckinnie as a bust 2 minutes ago....LOL.

[YiGGiN4SLoBS]

And even more importantly, a competent head coach.

All of the blue chip LT's in the world won't matter with this inept coaching staff.

[YiGGiN4SLoBS]

Pigeon holed into 1 position? You got me confused with someone else son. Everyone, everywhere agrees Kalil is the best non qb prospect in the draft. He's also low risk. The best non qb in the draft just happens to also be a huge need. It's a no brainer.

I bring up WR info simply to refute what you say about OL.....in case you didn't realize how much you bring up supposed reasons to not draft an OL. Maybe u already forgot bringing up mckinnie as a bust 2 minutes ago....LOL.

Everyone, everywhere huh? Well i better stop all this non sense about trading down and amassing more picks and maybe getting 2 lineman instead of one OR a skill position and a lineman. Lord knows that would be insane.

My goodness, you would think I said "draft a kicker with the 3rd overall pick"

[james_walleye]

You haven't been here long enough to see that I've written about 20 times that trading back and getting picks would be the favored option. I'm not into speculating about things that probably won't happen though.....hence the reason I'll go with kalil until that pick is traded.

[YiGGiN4SLoBS]

Ok then let me ask u this- If Kalil is so highly regarded- would a team not want to trade up to our position to get him? Could we not trade back and get the stanford tackle and more picks? I would be much more comfortable doing that. Is it hypathetical? yeah, but its certainly feasable.

[zepman]

Very feasable and maybe the best way to go. Who knows. The price would have to be right. Do you really trust the Vikings to make those extra picks count...history tells us no. Spielman has been pretty good with his first pick...from there it all goes downhill. Take the sure thing in Kalil!

LMIT...I agree. But he was given a pretty decent "core" to work with. Those O-Lineman that Singletary drafted WERE the difference in Alex Smiths and the 49'ers season.

I'm not sold on Frazier...not sold on Ponder either. Do we even know if Ponder is the better option than Webb right now...I'd rather watch Webb run the show at this point.

[james_walleye]

Ok then let me ask u this- If Kalil is so highly regarded- would a team not want to trade up to our position to get him? Could we not trade back and get the stanford tackle and more picks? I would be much more comfortable doing that. Is it hypathetical? yeah, but its certainly feasable.

But why would a team trade away those same picks we are drooling for when they could keep the picks and just take the Stanford tackle where they sit.....

[PurpleFloyd]

I am with Yogi that I would not draft a Tackle that high. If there are no other skill players that are worthy of the pick I would trade back. I am not a fan of drafting Blackmon that high either but Claiborne looks like the real deal and could help both out secondary and be a punt returner,which is also a position we are in dire need of an upgrade.

If they don't think Claiborne is worth the 3 slot then i would trade back and get a few additional picks or players.

[B. Amish]

the draft could be interesting this year with the new rookie wage scale. i think teams will be more agressive in trading up because they won't have to unload ooodles of money to sign them.

and you can't call mckinnie a bust when he's still in the league and has played at a pro bowl level. busts are guys that don't play for more than a couple years.

[YiGGiN4SLoBS]

The best offensive line ive ever seen the vikings have was anchored on the left side by Todd Stuessie.... Randal McDaniel, Jeff Christy, Dave Dixon and I cant remember who the other guy was, doesnt matter. All I know is Todd Steussie was more known for false starts and holding penalties then being a stud LT.

I agree with you guys that we need to upgrade the oline and u could be right that Kalil is the "no brainer" pick. Im just not comfortable taking a tackle that high and until i see Kalil just completely stonewalling the likes of Julius Peppers, Pierre-Paul, ect.. ect.. i wont be. I believe we can upgrade the o line later in the draft.

[FutbolGuru]

I believe we can upgrade the o line later in the draft.

If the Vikings think they can upgrade the oline later in the draft, I beleive they will. If they don't, they're going to draft Kalil... it's unfortunate that we're in this situation... but it is what it is. We need to upgrade the oline for the 2012 season or Ponder will get killed... again. If the Vikes feel Kalil can step in and provide help on day 1, and they don't feel there is another olineman who will be available in RD 2 or a FA out there who can do this, they're going to draft Kalil.

I agree with you on the philosophy that taking an olineman at 3 overall is stupid... but our situation sucks and we may not have another choice.

[Scott K]

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All I know is Todd Steussie was more known for false starts and holding penalties then being a stud LT.

Which is a huge improvement over the siv we had their last season. Their job is to protect the QB, not allow everyone through to nail your QB. At least Stuessie would block them, he would just do it a little early once in awhile

[FutbolGuru]

The other thing with getting an LT... it allows us to use Chuck Johnson at Guard... 2 positions with 1 pick. This could really help out the Oline as a whole. It's not just about Kalil vs Julis Peppers...

[Scott K]

Julious Peppers is old now, and nowhere near the threat he used to be. Although that Detroit team has some QB killers on it.

[FISHINGURU]

The topic will be more interesting after we see what we do in Free Agency.

[collegepaul]

I'm not the one thats pigeon holed into drafting 1 position, LT, with the 3rd overall pick here. I said any skill position with 3 or trade down for offensive line help and thats been my point the whole time.

IMO with the third overall pick, the Vikings (or any team for that matter)should be drafting a player that is one of the best players in the entire league at whatever position they play; otherwise you've overdrafted a player.

If the Vikes only stick to "skilled positions" only, they'll end up passing on other top talent which affects how good the entire team is. IF...the Vikes were to draft Blackmon with the third pick, I could list lots of other veteran receivers that are just as good or better than Blackmon is. Because of that, the third pick feels way too high for a guy like Blackmon. Don't get wrong, I think he'll be a really good reciever but there's other receivers in the NFL doing the same thing. That doesn't make the Vikes any better than those other teams just equals.

The general consensus with Kalil is that he's going to be a top left tackle in the league because of his background, athletic ability, etc. And if Kalil does become a top tackle in the league as expected, that would vindicate him being the third overall pick.

Trading down and passing up on the best players possible at any position is what doesn't make any sense. That's implying the Vikes should've traded down for more picks instead of drafting Adrian Peterson. Afterall, 7 is too high for a RB, right?