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The story said the truck was in 17' of water, that is way out there in that lake, not a channel or anything like that, Pearl Lake is pretty much a bowl. Local story said the truck broke through at a spot where a wheelhouse had been set up, the driver was on or very near the path, (no plowed roads on this lake). Lucky Guy!

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I heard that the house was froze in, and a "chemical" was used to free it. I also heard that the DNR doesn't aprove of using chemicals in or on our lakes and that they are looking in to that possibility...

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I was just referring to this post from earlier this winter:

http://www.hotspotoutdoors.com/forum/ubb...Ice#Post2512684

Because apparently, some people think it is perfectly fine to use salt or chemicals to free up frozen down houses.

"pefectly fine"? "chemicals"? Please.

I think some people just like to make a big deal about nothing. It's easier to get on a soap box that way.

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Maybe someone used a bag of solar salt to remove their frozen in perm and that's where he fell through? whistle

Why stop at just one bag? Might as well pick up 3 or 4 bags just to be sure you got her loose.

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My intial comment was basically a joke, but as usual on here, someone had to be an antagonist and make a bigger deal out of the comment than was necessary.

I'm not a biologist, so I can't say that the salt itself is bad for the lake. The salt weakens the ice, and if a perm has sat for weeks/months in one spot, the ice there is already thinner than the area around it. It's just my opinion that there are safety concerns if someone uses salt to break loose a frozen in house.

We use solar salt on jobsites when hills get too icy to drive our boom lifts up and down safely. We rarely use more than half of a bag on a hill. It doesn't take long to melt the ice, and the area stays soft and muddy for days afterward.

I heard that the house was froze in, and a "chemical" was used to free it. I also heard that the DNR doesn't aprove of using chemicals in or on our lakes and that they are looking in to that possibility...

It would be nice to know if this truly was the case.

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I didn't mean to be antagonistic. I was tying to pass on what I had heard. People wanted to know how the ice was thin or bad for a truck to drop in.

It most likely was salt that was used.

I'm sure the guy who has to pay to get his truck out is [PoorWordUsage]. I know I would be especially If someone dumped a lot of salt on the and created a soft spot. And didn't mark it

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Sorry if I was wasn't clear there. I was referring to the guy who quoted me twice after your post.

I thought your post kinda proved my point, which is why I ended my post saying I wish I knew if it was true.

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Sorry if I was wasn't clear there. I was referring to the guy who quoted me twice after your post.

I thought your post kinda proved my point, which is why I ended my post saying I wish I knew if it was true.

You said that some people think it is "perfectly fine". I was simply pointing out that that is not the case. It was suggested as an alternate to blasting at the ice with a high powered rifle.

You then made a reference to dumping "a bag" of salt on the ice which also was never mentioned. The gentleman posting about salt said that it only took a couple scoops to free a large permy.

I'm just trying to keep the salt conversation in perspective and not let folks blow it way out of proportion.

I've never used salt on the lake and never intend to. It just annoys me when people exaggerate what was said, which is exactly what you did with your post. You tried to make the salt posts sound much worse than they really were...then on top of that you came back and accused me of trying to blow it out of proportion...please.

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The use of salt was also suggested as an alternative to freeing the house up the old fashioned way, with sweat and beer. So if they don't think it 'perfectly fine' to do it, why even mention it? I also stated that it was my opinion that it was unsafe, not factual.

You then made a reference to dumping "a bag" of salt on the ice which also was never mentioned. The gentleman posting about salt said that it only took a couple scoops to free a large permy.

I'm just trying to keep the salt conversation in perspective and not let folks blow it way out of proportion.

I've never used salt on the lake and never intend to. It just annoys me when people exaggerate what was said, which is exactly what you did with your post. You tried to make the salt posts sound much worse than they really were...then on top of that you came back and accused me of trying to blow it out of proportion...please.

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Blowing it out of proportion? Not really, I just made the joke, then when asked if people really did that, I added the link and stated that some people thought it was an ok idea. As for accusing you of blowing it out of proportion. I made a joke, and you made a bigger deal out of it than should have been made.

You said, "Some people think it is PERFECTLY FINE to use salt or other chemicals to free frozen shacks".

Since nobody said it was perfectly fine and nobody suggested using other chemicals you are either making stuff up or blowing it out of proportion.

This thread is about a truck falling through the ice near St. Cloud. If you want to further discuss the effects of salt on the ice lets take it back to the other thread.

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