? for Nils owners

[HANS76]

This is my 3rd year of owning a nils auger. My 1 and only complaint is that it is hard to start if it has sits for a week without running. What procedure do you use to start yours? Sometimes mine takes 10 to 15 pulls to fire. How many time do you push the prime ball, choke, etc?

[Surface Tension]

Push the primer till you see gas running back to the tank. Usually a few times is all.

Full Choke and then take the choke off after it starts. If it is really cold you might have to half choke after it starts for a short time.

[HANS76]

Thanks Frank. What you explained is what i do. The plug in it is 3 years old, how often do you change them? I have also sent my blades to you a few times. You do a great job and i think they are sharper than new when you get done with them! I will be sending you one this week for sharpening. Thanks!

TJ

[croixflats]

I'll prime it 3 or 4 times and do have choke sometimes a full choke all the time at start up. Still learning the ins and outs. If it does not fire after the 3rd pull a 2 or three maybe 4 pumps next round it pops off. I do 3. Some maybe shocked at this but to me it is a trade off knowing gas wont sit there going bad.

Funny story: I received mine and I went to start for the break in. Well I cranked and cranked no start dont know what led me to this I turned it off and it popped off right then and there. Well, the leads were backwards. Unfortunately I have not changed them so every time I have to convince myself I had not changed them. I suspect if I do change them I still will have to convince myself I did.

[Surface Tension]

HANS76, Thanks and I'm glad your happy with the blades.

I'd change the plug. Even though you might not have a lot of hours on the auger, cold starts and short run times are the norm with augers and therefore foul from that.

In real cold temps my Nils starts on the 2nd or 3rd pull.

[hawkeye43]

My nils this year is hard starting. I started it 8 or 9 times this summer, it started on the 4th or 5th pull. Now it a bear. I changed the plug and the gas. I don't what to do now, any ideas???

[Surface Tension]

Could be time for a carb cleaning and kit. Very easy to get at and the linkage is easy to get back together.

[Jim Almquist]

The way I start mine is to hit the primer bulb 2-3 times and put it on full choke and pull and if it has not fired by the third pull I will put it on half choke and it fires right away. I still have the original plug

Might have to look into changing that one of these days

[ONE BIG POLACK]

please dont complain how these bad boys start... We could always trade... Your Nils, my Mora... LOL! My buddy had his out on the ice today... MAN DO THEY RUN/CUT SMOOTH - like nothing else! I loved it, but didnt want to break into my 401k to buy one!

[HANS76]

I noticed if I squeeze the throttle while pulling it over it starts 1 or 2 pulls every time. Does this mean dirty carb?

[Crappyfisherman]

Had the same problem,think it was because I got lazy and mixed regular gas this fall. Went and got some non-oxy 91 octane and after I ran the new gas it was fine.

[Great Outdoors]

My nils this year is hard starting. I started it 8 or 9 times this summer, it started on the 4th or 5th pull. Now it a bear. I changed the plug and the gas. I don't what to do now, any ideas???

In the spring, just before putting your auger away, start it and let it warm up. Turn it off, then pour out all gas in the tank. Start it again and run it on high speed until you run the fuel line and carburetor dry. Never leave gas in the carb or tank in the summer.

If you do this, you won't have any trouble when the ice fishing season comes around.

Always run 91 octane, non-oxygenated gas!!!

[hawkeye43]

I had the carb rebuilt and cleaned, still takes 15 to 20 pulls to fire. Once it runs awhile it will start on the 2 or 3 pull

[HANS76]

Hawkeye i cant believe that didnt cure the problem! Do you ever try holding the throttle wide open while pulling it over? That works for me, but you shouldnt have to do that. Seafoam?

[Jim Almquist]

I had the carb rebuilt and cleaned, still takes 15 to 20 pulls to fire. Once it runs awhile it will start on the 2 or 3 pull

Can you see the gas move when you are hitting the primer bulb ?

[aczr2k]

Draining all the gas out isn't the answer, first year I did that all my fuel lines dried up and broke, and of course Tanaka uses a metric fuel line thats not readily available. Now I fill it up with 91 and sabre and stabil or seafoam, run it until warm, and shut it off. Pull the plug spray some fogging oil down the cylinder and put the plug back in. I will start it up and refog it a couple of times during the summer it only takes 10 minutes. No problems since, I will dump the gas before winter and put in fresh.

[DTro]

Draining all the gas out isn't the answer, first year I did that all my fuel lines dried up and broke, and of course Tanaka uses a metric fuel line thats not readily available. Now I fill it up with 91 and sabre and stabil or seafoam, run it until warm, and shut it off. Pull the plug spray some fogging oil down the cylinder and put the plug back in. I will start it up and refog it a couple of times during the summer it only takes 10 minutes. No problems since, I will dump the gas before winter and put in fresh.

I've been doing the same exact thing.

[Great Outdoors]

Draining all the gas out isn't the answer, first year I did that all my fuel lines dried up and broke, and of course Tanaka uses a metric fuel line thats not readily available. Now I fill it up with 91 and sabre and stabil or seafoam, run it until warm, and shut it off. Pull the plug spray some fogging oil down the cylinder and put the plug back in. I will start it up and refog it a couple of times during the summer it only takes 10 minutes. No problems since, I will dump the gas before winter and put in fresh.

I've done that for many years on many different engines, outboards, chain saws, auger engines, chippers, log splitters, weed eaters, etc. and never had any problems.

Your engine came from the factory without any gas and the lines weren't dried up and broken when you first got it, were they????

I find it hard to believe that running the system dry could do that.

Something else must have caused that to happen.

[Surface Tension]

I noticed if I squeeze the throttle while pulling it over it starts 1 or 2 pulls every time. Does this mean dirty carb?

It could mean that your low speed circuits in the carb are dirty.

Are you using the choke too?

How well does it idle?

You can use both methods of storing and they are way better then doing nothing.

Drain, run dry, and then fog.

Non oxy gas, stabilize, and fog.

[Northlander]

I ALWAYS leave good gas and Amsoil Saber in my Nils. I go out several times a summer and run it for 5 minutes or so.

I change the spark plug every year wether it needs it or not.

My Nils I start by priming until I see the gas moving through the line to motor (usually 2-3 pumps) then pull 2 times on 1/2 choke and it usually goes between 2-5 pulls depending on how long it has sat. I run mine almost daily so I dont let it get a chance to get dirtied up or have old stale gas in it.

[FISHINGURU]

I pump my primer about 5-6 times and put it on full choke, pull it anywhere from 3-10 times depending how cold it is or how long it's been since I ran it. Once it pops off I put it to half choke and it starts on the next pull.

[Esox_Magnum]

Same as most, prime 3-4 times pull 3-10 times on full choke, when it fires flip choke off and drill holes. Once warm a light pull will restart.

[aczr2k]

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I find it hard to believe that running the system dry could do that.

Something else must have caused that to happen.

That's funny because the first thing they told me at the small engine place was "You drained the gas out didn't you?" Apparently not that uncommon...LOL

[harvey lee]

I also never drain out my gas in the tank and have never had an issue with a Jiffy, Nils or a Strikemaster. I do fire it up a few times in the summer.