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I don't care if someone sets up next to me. If fishing isn't that good I am going to move anyway. If the fish are biting great. The only thing that irks me is people arriving at the lake late - during prime time - and making a boat load of noise. I don't own the lake so that person has a much right to use the water as I do. I always try to setup a good distance away from others but I am not going to be a big baby if someone sets up close to me. I will either move or live with them fishing in the same area as me.

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First off I am not addressing this to any one person so do please not take offense.

I understand the law is ten feet the lake is public etc. We are fortunate there is such a law or some would be drilling holes in your boots.

For many the sport is a means of getting away from the crowds and relaxing. I think courtesy is a bit more important than the law.

Any Golfers here ?

Some Golf courses are also public and as far as I know there are no State mandated ten foot separation laws for this sport.

Yet you do you not have people following ten feet behind you and asking you for tips and hanging out all day trying to checkout your equipment and what works....

You do not have people driving their carts around you when you are trying to putt. Or ten feet away using profanity when you have the kids along.

You do not have have people camping out on the 18 honey holes trying to improve their putting or starting from the green cause it is less work and their odds are better.

I am not singling anyone out but many people fish to get away, be alone and enjoy solitude. Many prefer not to have people drilling ten feet from them when there are fish on the graph. If you want to walk over for a visit I am sure many will not mind. But for many fishing is more like golf it is a individual pursuit and they do not want outside interference to effect the outcome of their game.

I am not a golfer but if we all treated fishermen with the same respect golfers show each other (some) things may be a little better out there.

To answer the original question I would not setup any closer to a house than they have setup from other houses in the area. Unless I know them and can out run them.

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You also have to pay to play on each course, each time, with a planned tee time that you call ahead for. Those few things tend to wean out most of the rudeness.

Plus you have to wear those funny pants.

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I am not a golfer but if we all treated fishermen with the same respect golfers show each other (some) things may be a little better out there.

I'm a golfer, and I can assure you that rudeness and inconsiderate people run wild on public golf courses as much as they do on the lakes. You're examples are oriented to prove a point with fishing. But groups playing slower than they should, driving carts across your fairway as you ready to swing, yelling from the next tee box as your lining up to putt, tossing empty beer cans all over, and so on. I see one case of this nearly every round I play.

To get back on track, I'm in the boat of being "THAT GUY". I prefer solitude, because I know my son gets excited when he hooks a nice fish, and I prefer no one else to know he has. That being said, if he's not with, and I decided the night before to fish a certain piece of structure, I am going to find a spot that is probably 20-30 feet from the nearest porty/perm, but still on or near that structure.

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For many the sport is a means of getting away from the crowds and relaxing. I think courtesy is a bit more important than the law.

And I think for many others the sport is a means of getting out and being with fellow fisherman and friends. The lakes around me all have permanent shanty towns that from talking with people spring up every year on the same lakes in the same spots. These friends and families do this so they can go out on the ice and hang out together, fish together and have a good time. I'm with these people.

I guess where you'd rather have the lake to yourself I'd rather have it full end to end with people to socialize and have a good time with.

With that said I still fish where I want to fish and try and stay at least 20-30 feet from other shacks unless it is a perm town then I figure if they set up 10 feet from each other they probably don't care if I set up 10 feet from them either. But I am apt to stroll over and start up a conversation at some point more than likely, guess that's just me.

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The diagrams are great...but with my well known limited math skills, the pics do better help me comprehend this complex geometrical and mathematical territorial fishing dilemma.

But ya know...if you added.....lets say...50 Garden Gnomes in 10' intervals to illustrate the interlopers creeping up on the perms unaware, that might also help me get the bigger picture of the problem here.

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I would assume each house will be allowed at least one vehicle when occupied ?

Would it be possible to add trucks to this drawing so I know where to park ? You may consider adding a few tip-ups while you are at it.

Looking at this precision diagram it is now clear that by exceeding the 10 foot standard in my selfishness I am impacting many other structures and fishermen and destryoing any sense of community and fellowship on the lake. For that I apologize.

I will add a tape measure and a chalk line to my tackle box and try to be a better neighbor. =)

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If another stays 20-30ft away from me, thats fine. The lake is there for all to enjoy. I do not own an area and noone else does either.

I have had others set up within talking distanse from my portable and see no issue with that at all.

Heck, I am out there to enjoy the day and if another can also catch some fish, great.

The last thing I personally would do is come down on him or her.

I do know there are some who believe if they have a house on the lake that all others shoud stay out of sight from them. Not me.

Funny Harvey, I set up about 40' from you one Saturday afternoon last winter out on Horseshoe. That was still a little iffy for me, so I hailed you first and asked if it was OK if I set up there, and you were nice enough to say yes. Legally I could have just set up and not said boo to you, but I cared enough about your experience to make sure that I wasn't wrecking your day to have me set up that close by.

It gets said a lot on here that you can't fix stupid; I think that it's equally true that you cannot legislate courtesy. If people spent less time keeping track of what they're legally entitled to and spent less time being selfish jerks, there would be less of these stories.

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The diagrams are great...but with my well known limited math skills, the pics do better help me comprehend this complex geometrical and mathematical territorial fishing dilemma.

But ya know...if you added.....lets say...50 Garden Gnomes in 10' intervals to illustrate the interlopers creeping up on the perms unaware, that might also help me get the bigger picture of the problem here.

41-kcWD2uRL.jpg

wink

I think you on to something here Ed. 50 garden gnomes around the house and no one is going to come near you. laugh Sure is a heck of a delema we got going.
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I'm surprised no one has mention generators yet. I love it when someones generator is so loud you can feel the vibration in your shack. But I'm sure the fish aren't affected by that.

I still can't make up my mind on the noise. I know there have been times when fishing was slow and I'd go start up my truck (noisy diesel). Almost instantly after starting it we'd have fish showing up on the vexilar.

Sometimes I think it can be too quiet.

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I still can't make up my mind on the noise. I know there have been times when fishing was slow and I'd go start up my truck (noisy diesel). Almost instantly after starting it we'd have fish showing up on the vexilar.

Sometimes I think it can be too quiet.

Agreed - I've noticed the same thing when somebody fires up an auger. Suddenly the flasher is full of fish for a few minutes. I've also noticed it right after I drill my own hole and put the ducer down. I mark a bunch of fish, then after I setup they are all gone.

I think in certain situations the noise absolutely does attract the fish. In other situation it might scare them away...I think it just depends.

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