Moose-Hunter Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Howdy All... My buddy and I went out for a few panfish yesterday and found this ol' girl just finning just under the surface over deep water. Sorry for the bad photo, all we had was a cell phone cam... I wish we could have put something in the shot to give her some scale. She was a BIG fish. Easily in the upper 40's... From what we could see, this fish had not sustained any damage like a prop strike, as in there was no damge to her skin at all. We were able to get very good looks at both sides of her. What was odd is that she had a very pronounced bend as if she had been hit by a boat. She was able to swim out of sight, but then returned to near the surface a few minutes later. not really floundering, but not in a big hurry either. We stayed in the area for 20-30 minutes and she eventually swam out of sight. And the plot thickens... Later in the day, we heard that someone had caught a "big muskie" in one of the local crappie holes. From the reports, the anglers kept the 'ski out of the water "way too long" for a photo shoot and had a tough time resusitating the fish when it was finally released. Could this be the result of bad fish handling? A boat hit? A genetic defect? Other than the "bend", she appeared lazy but heathy... We called the DNR when we were with her but got no response. What do you think happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOHKAY Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Just a genetic defect in my opinion. I've seen muskies with similar defects with a bend in the back that points their tails downward. There's also the more common snub-nose defect where the top of the jaw is shortened. Funny how she's grown that big and seems healthy from the picture. I guess those defects often don't effect eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugoBox Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 No need to appologize for that photo. Very cool for sure. So if a guy hooked that fish I wonder if the fight would be any different?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallyGator12000 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 I've caught some walleyes that look exactly like that, each one came from a different lake (one metro, one north-central MN, and one BWCA), and over the course of quite a few years. I always assumed it was a birth defect, like a fused back or something. I can tell you they all fought just the same, I didn't know they were any different until they were up to the boat. Tasted just fine too.Never seen a musky with it before though...cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 This one isn't nearly as kitty-whompus as the one you got the pic of, but here's one my nephew caught that had a crooked tail. It was actually more crooked than the pic shows it though... No way to know what happened, but I figured it was dropped on the bottom of a boat. Again, no way to confirm that, just what popped in my head when I saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianLucky13 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 I've seen a lot of weird and goofy things but that might take the cake!! Thanks for sharing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogtosser Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 we caught a pike on Mille Lacs that looked like the first one, it was very healthy just bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad coin Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 wrong sleepnumber??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perchking Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 That is one cool photo, thanks for sharing.PK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmuskie Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I have seen 2 muskies like that before. The first one was in the net before we realized anything was odd. The second one I caught on a figure 8 - after I realized that it could only go in a circle one direction. It couldn't turn the other way but really wanted to eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldie11 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 AWESOME fish wouldnt mind catching it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutned Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I did fisheries work for about 10 years, mostly out west. What you're seeing could be the result of electro-fishing. Although not common, if a fish gets zapped "too hard" by electrofishing equipment, the electricity running through their muscle tissue will cause the muscles to contract so violently that the fish's spine will fracture, or occasionally basically rupture an entire vertebrae. This generally results from one of two things. One possibility is that the personnel were unfamiliar with the equipment or water conductivity and therefore using too much power. This can happen even with fairly experienced operators because conductivity varies from water-body to water-body, as well as throughout the season on the same water-body. It is usually noticed very quickly, but a few fish might get shocked too hard in the first few minutes of sampling. Another possibility is that the crew got into a dense pod of fish and were netting like crazy and due to the large number of thrashing fish, didn't see one of the fish that got shocked early and hard. Although electro-fishing is generally a good, safe sampling technique, occassionally these things will happen. My understanding is that it is rarely fatal. You will generally see these deformities in larger fish, as their greater surface-area "collects" more energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim carpenter Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 could be from handling. Could be genetics. Could be from a near death experience from another fish when it was a fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sackett Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I caught one in Cass that was a carbon-copy of that. It was an old fish on the decline by its looks but maybe it was of normal age and just had a really tough time catching food. Had it been able to straighten out it would have been in the 50s. No noticeable scarring either, really believe it was just something from birth or sometime in its first years that caused it, but who really knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutned Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 These fish have been shocked. I'd about guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfreak Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Very cool pic. The electro-shock idea makes sense. I know that can even happen to humans when they get hit with a large electrical current. A body will seize so violently it can break the back. So I'm sure if it happens to people it can happen to fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoChris Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I caught a smallmouth that had a stunted back like that before. No noticable damage.... must have been a growth defect or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseshoeChain Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I've caught a couple with bent backs, they haven't seemed to be suffering, although they tend to be a little skinny.I took a friend to Mille Lacs one day. He caught his first muskie... 53 inches!! It had a very crooked back... mostly bent downward instead of sideways like the one in the picture.This fish seemed healthy, but lean. It also did not fight very hard, just wallowed a lot. It was also maybe the most docile fish I've ever handled, both in the net and in the boat.Very interesting about the shocking theory... sounds sensible.I kind of assumed it was caused possibly by some sort of damage at a young age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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