Innovative sinker rigging

[MinnesnowtaWild]

Hey guys I want to try something new this year as far as my rig set up. I currently use the method that most people I have fished with use:

...line...no-roll...bead...swivel...leader...hook

The problem I have with sinkers on my main line is the fact that they tear up my braid and sooner or later it will cost me a fish. I have always cut 3-5 yards of line and retied everything before I would go out for the night but I want to try something different.

Just looking for input as far as what other people are using for rigging.

[MinnesnowtaWild]

One guy I know buys small snap swivels and attaches them before the swivel and then ties the snap to a bank sinker with 20 lb mono so it's easy to break off a snag. I tried it once but I had problems with the dangling sinker wrapping around my leader and would no longer slide as desired.

I also have a friend who uses the Team Catfish sinker slides, but they only work for bank sinkers and I already have a ton of no-rolls so I would like to keep them.

I was thinking about buying some really thin clear tubing and sticking them through the no-rolls and then cutting them at top and bottom. This would stop them from rubbing on the line but not sure if it would work.

What are you guys using?

[DTro]

Trade someone for bank sinkers.

I think I remember a post not too long ago with a zip tie and tubing.

[DTro]

Here ya go:

http://www.hotspotoutdoors.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2219128/No_Roll_sinker_slider#Post2219128

[Gordie]

I've tried so many differnt rigs and IMO the best has got to be the no roll in most applications and I know that the re-tie part of it sucs but its worth every second that it takes me. The time that it takes will pay off in the long run.

I have also run a swivel on my line and used differnt style sinkers. I pour my own prymid sinkers and use snp swivels on them but I have the snap side exposed so it can snap them to my line easyier. it does reduce the line fatigue but it still happens the river it self tears up the line also.

[blakeb]

alright stick with me, there are some Black plastic cable zip tie thingys.

more specifically there are small ones with a little bit of an extra tab with a hole in it, they are supposed to be to put a screw in to secure the tie to a... whatever have you.

now you may have to drill your no roll hole a little bit bigger but you can insert one of these zip ties thru the sinker and fasten it to itself. insert the line thru the hole that is supposed to hold to screw. there you go sinker mod for cheap

YOU UNDERSTAND? if i left anything to the imagination let me know ill get a pic.

[Borch]

Your post got me thinking. Yeah I know that's a scary thing. But with an eye screw and a sinker slide from cat connection and this is what I came up with. It's basically a no roll bank sinker.

[Gordie]

That dont look to bad Borch. Can I ask what the little T thingie is on the top side of it?

[MinnesnowtaWild]

Hmmmmm Blake if you could throw a pic up I would appreciate it.

Borch that looks like a great idea. If the sinker gets snagged up do those sinker slides break off or what gets damaged if anything? My only concern would be there's nothing to really give when you really need to yank it out of something that's completely stuck. I really like your idea though.

[ec30_06]

Hmmmmm Blake if you could throw a pic up I would appreciate it.

Borch that looks like a great idea. If the sinker gets snagged up do those sinker slides break off or what gets damaged if anything? My only concern would be there's nothing to really give when you really need to yank it out of something that's completely stuck. I really like your idea though.

I think the screw would come out of the sinker if you snag up.

[Borch]

That's what I was thinking Eddie. Than you could screw on a fresh no roll and be back in action. Time will tell which will give first I guess. If the sinker is snagged I would think that worst case at least you'd get your swivel and gammi hook back.

I originally picked up the slides for the 2-5 oz bank sinkers that I have but I'll have to try the no roll version to see how they work out.

[SteveD]

I made a Cat Tip of the Day on Hanging No-Roll Sinkers back in January which accomplishes pretty much what you are trying to do. I just turn my No-Rolls into a hanging sinker with a short piece of light mono and then you can hang it on a sinker slide with no problem. If the sinker gets hung up it will snap off and you just have to hang on a new one. Here is the link:

Cat Tip of the Day: Hanging No-Roll Sinkers

[blakeb]

yeah got my hands pretty full of two year old, thought i had the type of zip tie i was talking about in the garage, upon secondary inspection i was unable to find em, i will be posting youa pic once i go to menards on monday morning. Hold tight

[MinnesnowtaWild]

That dont look to bad Borch. Can I ask what the little T thingie is on the top side of it?

I guess it's there so that you can tie your line to it instead of using the slide so it's in a fixed position.

[Borch]

Originally Posted By: elwood

That dont look to bad Borch. Can I ask what the little T thingie is on the top side of it?

I guess it's there so that you can tie your line to it instead of using the slide so it's in a fixed position.

Could be. I was curiuos as to why it was there myself.

[Borch]

I made a Cat Tip of the Day on Hanging No-Roll Sinkers back in January which accomplishes pretty much what you are trying to do. I just turn my No-Rolls into a hanging sinker with a short piece of light mono and then you can hang it on a sinker slide with no problem. If the sinker gets hung up it will snap off and you just have to hang on a new one. Here is the link:

Cat Tip of the Day: Hanging No-Roll Sinkers

You're a few steps ahead of the rest of us Steve. Looks simple and effective.

Thanks.

[Gordie]

Originally Posted By: SteveD

I made a Cat Tip of the Day on Hanging No-Roll Sinkers back in January which accomplishes pretty much what you are trying to do. I just turn my No-Rolls into a hanging sinker with a short piece of light mono and then you can hang it on a sinker slide with no problem. If the sinker gets hung up it will snap off and you just have to hang on a new one. Here is the link:

Cat Tip of the Day: Hanging No-Roll Sinkers

You're a few steps ahead of the rest of us Steve. Looks simple and effective.

Thanks.

When it comes to thinking things out Steve is the man. That guy has a ton of great ideas.

[proguide]

Forgive me for thinking that there is way to much thought going into this. For the record I hate braid. I find the disadvantages compared to mono far outweigh the advantages. For the cost, difficulty to break out of a snag and the problem of abrasion I have chosen to use mono across the board.

It seems to me by looking for a way to modify a no-roll sinker with hangers, slides and gadgets kind of defeats the purpose of a no-roll sinker. I guess to have the advantages of a no-roll I would 1. Deal with tying each time, or 2. tie in a few yards of florocarbon or mono so you have an abrasion resistant line for your no-roll to slide on without having to tie all the time. I realize this defeats most of the work of the braid and creates a knot in the line but seems in my puny little head to be the way to get the maximum out of your no-rolls.

Another option is trade me your no-rolls for the bank sinkers I poured earlier today.

[MinnesnowtaWild]

The thing is, most of the bank sinkers I own or have had in the past have been just as bad as the no-rolls. It is easier to file down in the eye but still.

Steve, I don't think I ever saw that tip of the day. Thanks as always. Definitely a great idea.

[MinnesnowtaWild]

Too bad I just got my Catfish Connection order, otherwise I would get those sinker slides. Maybe I'll get the ones at Bob's if I end up getting another rod for my baitcaster.

[MinnesnowtaWild]

Stopped in at Moore's and picked up two packs of Team Catfish sinker slides so I'm going to come up with some solution.

[bobbymalone]

That dont look to bad Borch. Can I ask what the little T thingie is on the top side of it?

I thought it was to tangle up your line

I always snap it off. Also thought it could be a remnant from the manufacturing process.

I use the CF connection sinker slides as well, but I pair them up with a flat spoon sinker or a bank sinker when I need to go above 2 oz.

Team CF is overpriced, but you do what you have to do I guess.

[DTro]

The Sea Striker Duo Lock sinker slides are a lot cheaper, and pretty much the same thing as the TC slides.

I also agree that you can really over complicate things pretty easily with all these components.

The reason I like to use the slides is the quick change out of sinkers on the fly and also can remove them for transportation (keep from damaging rods).

[MinnesnowtaWild]

Yeah, a bit. But I had already placed and received my order from somewhere else and didn't want to pay shipping on sinker slides.

I also bought a TC 3/4 ton rod that I'm pumped to test out.

[Surreal Deal]

Yeah, a bit. But I had already placed and received my order from somewhere else and didn't want to pay shipping on sinker slides.

If you can "ship" yourself out to Rogers, Cabelas sells the Sea Striker slides for $8 for a 25-pack. They also have another brand there which didn't look as good as the Sea Strikers and have bad reviews on their site.

I took Steve's advice and rigged my no rolls with mono and beads for use with a slide. IMO this does not "Defeat the purpose of a no-roll," as the weight is still going to lay nice and flat on the bottom just as it would if it were threaded through.

I also like Borch's idea with the eyelet threaded into the hole, basically converting the no-roll into an oblong version of a disc sinker.