Daredevils with tip ups???

[siemers]

hey ive herd guys using daredevils on there tip ups,does enyone know does it work? im kinda new wit tip ups

[waterbound]

They're probably using Windlass tip ups or something like that to jig it. I know that some of the spearing guys use spoons to bring in the pike with pretty good success. I would tip it with a minnow or minnow head to give it some scent and so the pike have a target to hit. If you try it let us know how you do.

[Brad B]

They do this to get around the more than one hook rule. the other way to get a round it is to use a quick strike rig. it is simply a wire leader with a treble hook at the end with a little spinner blade placed with in 3 inches of the treble hook. if it is more then 3 inches it won't be legal. the spinner blade make the whole thing into a artificial lure thus legal to use.

[siemers]

all rigth thanx guys i will let you how i do

[bassNspear]

siemers, welcome to fm, glad you are part of the family!

[ANYFISH2]

I have also used daredevils and other large jigging spoons for pike under tip-ups. We use them when fishing with frozen ciscos or smelt, they help to prevent the dead bait from floating. Also even in lakes, the spoons are almost always moving slightly.

[grate8]

is it ethcal to put a small blade on two trebles in order to "say" its a lure so that once can "get around" the law? sounds like cheating boyz!!!!!

[siemers]

thanx bass n spear, good to be on here

[MJ1657]

It is not getting "around" the law by putting a blade on a treble hook. That is wht the DNR says makes it legal. If you do a site search you will find this info.

[grate8]

the dnr says to put a small blade on trebles so that one can use trebs with live bait? even tho it is not used as a lure?

[Lunker]

Yup, and perfectly legal. When you buy the "quick-stike" rigs (two treble hook rig) they usually come pre-packaged with blades. For those who think it is a bad loophole, I think these rigs are more fish friendly cause you don't need to let them take it very long so less chance of a swallowed hook.

[Gordie]

Take the treble hook off of the daredevil, then tie to line, then put leader on split ring on bottom of daredevil, then hook and sucker and you've got a polish spinner. The sucker swims around and the spoon flashes the pike are intriged by it come over to take a look and FLAGS UP... set the hook and pull it in...

this set up works very well old polish secret so dont let it leal out....

[Jarrod32]

Just a side note...we use Mepps Syclops spoons in the ways described here, rather than a Daredevil type spoon...

[Gordie]

Yes I do the same I dont use Daredevils either they are a bit heavy I use the lighter spoons and there are a wide range of colors to pick from and I'm not saying thatdaredevils wont work its just that a sucker can swimm better with a lighter spoon when set up they way I described it.

[siemers]

so let me get this strait boys since im new at this, just using a daredevil is not a legal lure on a tip up??? or am i mis-understanding?

[waterbound]

A daredevle is a legal lure, but probably not a very effective one if it doesn't move, which is why a sucker or something is attached. Using a plain treble hook is not legal which is why somebody would use a daredevle so they can use the treble legally.

[Gordie]

yes the daredevil is a leagle lure for ice fishing I dont like to use the spoon as the lure I use it as an attractor so that is why I take the treble hook off and attacth it to the line then a leader 6-8 inch then a sucker as the sucker swims the spoon flashes and attracks pike simple but effective

[waterbound]

If you are going to do like elwood does and put a leader on under the spoon remember that the state wants the treble hook within 3 inches of the lure. I imagine elwood is using a sucker pin to hold the minnow because he is spearing and does not need a hook. A conservation officer isn't likely to have you pull your line up and measure the distance between the lure and the hook but they can. Using a single hook would solve the issue if you wanted a longer leader though.

[Gordie]

good tip water bound but I do use this set up under a tip and not spearing so I use a kalhe style hook and not a treble. for spearing the spoon is attached to a whole differnt set up.

[CrappieKilla]

or just use a plain old treble hook and put a small spinner blade on the line above it, the blade will move and flash as the sucker minnow swims around... you should try it grate8!

[Brad B]

crappiekilla,

my only concern with your set up is how do you keep the spinner blade within 3" of the treble hook. if your spinner blade is farther then 3" from the hook then it would be illegal. just something to think about.

[MJ1657]

A tiny split shot works well to keep it within 3"

[Steve Foss]

I used to fool with the spoon attractor as mentioned here, but the longer I fish, the more simple I want things so I'm not handling tackle all the time. The more complicated the rig, the more likely it is to get tangled up, and when it's -20 and the wind is whipping across the ice and your hands are frozen after landing and releasing a fish, anything that can tangle your line is BAD!

The spoon rig works very well on active fish but not on inactive/negative fish, and active fish are going to hit whatever live or deadbait you have down there anyway, so I eliminated the spoon. Didn't notice any decline in my catch rate.

Nowadays most of the time it's as simple as it can be: Sevenstrand wire leader (I make them myself) attached directly to a hook (no snap swivel) with a few heavy split shot above the leader to keep smelt/cisco from floating. Once they thaw in the water they no longer float. I quit using quick-strike rigs a few seasons ago partly because of the "keep it simple" philosophy, and partly because, after experimenting, I realized I was not gut-hooking any pike by using a standard hook. I keep my tip-ups close enough to me/each other that I don't have to run to get to them. I doubt they are 50 feet apart, and I generally position myself between them. When I walk quickly over I just tip the tip-up over and set the hook. I'd thought about using circle hooks to avoid the gut hook issue altogether, but the Kahle and standard styles of hooks are working really well for me.

But simplicity is just my philosophy. I know lots of folks really enjoy using different rigs, and discovering things yourself instead of taking others' advice can bring a lot of satisfaction.

Flag's up!

[Acemac]

Steve your my hero! You make it all sound so easy.

[Steve Foss]

You make it all sound so easy.

We are all together in our fishing addiction/codependency. Just call me the Fishing Enabler.

And it's only difficult if we make it so.