Vote for Bert - H.O.F. today

[solbes]

Too bad there's no fan voting. This guy needs to get in! His 13th try and there is a max of 15 attempts.

287 wins (27th all time), 3701 K's (5th all time), 60 shutouts (9th all time). He has 2 World Series and one 20 win season.

Last year he got almost 63% of the votes, but needs 75% to get in. He's in competition this year with Andre Dawson and Roberto Alomar among others.

[mrklean]

i was listening to 93x today and Randy was saying its this year or never for him cause there really arent any other guys on the ballet this year that are standouts so we will see

[zepman]

I hope he gets in this year...he certainly deserves to be there.

[solbes]

Anyone who is top 5 in Strikeouts should be voted in. I think at the time of his retirement he was 3rd all time?

Guess we'll find out fairly soon.

[LOTWSvirgin]

Well I vote for him anyways anyone else??

[Jakesbuds]

Do you think he will ever go a full game announcing without saying how many more days until his B-Day is? I cant stand that lol, but he should be in the HOF he has all the credentials and some IMO

[TR21HP]

Bert came up 5 votes short and didn't make the HOF again.

Andre Dawson was the only player selected this year. OUCH!

[Jakesbuds]

Just in, Bert only received 74.2% of the 75% needed to be inducted. He was 5 votes shy. Andre Dawson is this years only HOF to be inducted.

[B. Amish]

those voters sure are goofy about who they elect and when they do it.

[mrklean]

what a joke, that dude should be in the hall

[TR21HP]

He certainly has the numbers plus a couple of world series rings so there must be something else that keeps the voters away.

[Jmnhunter]

sounds like another goofy Hall Fame; just like the rock and roll hall fame, that is rediculous too, just check the list to see whos in that!

[B. Amish]

the reasons that you see why they don't vote for him are his win percentage, his no cy-youngs, and his lack of all star appearances.

[TR21HP]

B.Amish,

There are several pitchers in the HOF with lesser numbers, no cy youngs and all star appearances.

[solbes]

SHAFT!!

I started the thread because I was almost positive he'd finally get in. Dawson was great too; I can agree with that one. With no standouts this year, I don't understand why the writers didn't vote for Bert.

[B. Amish]

He certainly has the numbers plus a couple of world series rings so there must be something else that keeps the voters away.

[TR21HP]

B.Amish, don't get me wrong, I believe Bert should be in as well but when I see pitchers such as; Jim Bunning, Dennis Eckersley, Rollie Fingers, Ferguson Jenkins or Robin Roberts in with lesser numbers it just doesn't make sense.

[zamboni]

B.Amish, don't get me wrong, I believe Bert should be in as well but when I see pitchers such as; Jim Bunning, Dennis Eckersley, Rollie Fingers, Ferguson Jenkins or Robin Roberts in with lesser numbers it just doesn't make sense.

Eckersley and Bruce Smith practically invented the save, and before he was a closer, Eck was a very good starter, he belongs.

[TR21HP]

Zamboni,

I'm not saying they don't belong, what I'm saying is Bert had better numbers. Bert will probably get in next year so it matters little except to him.

[blue_healer_guy]

The reason he didnt get in numbers or not is that he cant keep his mouth shut about it. Its heard hear and all over the country from him why he should get in. Turns people off IMO.

[B. Amish]

what gets me about the voting is the way they treat pitchers and hitters differently. hitters can get in because of one or two stat categories or in the case of someone like ozzie smith, their defense. it seems like they scrutinize pitchers stats across the board way more than hitters.

bert should be in because of his k's and complete games - which by the way should get way more spotlight than a save.

[solbes]

Shaver said that 5 or 6 writers didn't turn in a ballot this year. That counts as a no vote, and could have been a deciding factor in his non-election.

I don't have a problem at all with Bert being a self-promoter in his bid. He deserves to be in and he knows it. I would do the same thing if I had his career. I do agree that it may turn other people off, but they should be thinking about his career.

[Juneau4]

What about Jack Morris? Won more games in the 80's than any other pitcher, 20 game winner 3 times -stll not in the hall.

[zamboni]

What about Jack Morris? Won more games in the 80's than any other pitcher, 20 game winner 3 times -stll not in the hall.

He should be in based on game 7 alone.

[solbes]

Originally Posted By: Juneau4

What about Jack Morris? Won more games in the 80's than any other pitcher, 20 game winner 3 times -stll not in the hall.

He should be in based on game 7 alone.

I agree with both of you. All you need to say is "Game 7" and you immediately think of Morris. Unfortunately he has a career 3.90 ERA which is hurting his votes.