CONDENSATION?

[Tyler23]

got a clam voyager this year used it for the first time this weekend and it seems to have a awfull lot of condensation? we had the windows open and closed. there was zero wind.. what can i do to eliminate this?

[minnbowhunter]

Quite breathing so much,really the only way to get rid of it is to insulate the roof on the inside.

take a look at this http://www.hotspotoutdoors.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/2100122/Searchpage/1/Main/228308/Words/foil+/Search/true/Re_Too_much_moisture#Post2100122

[RebelSS]

Unfortunately, not much, unless you insulate the inside of the entire house. Cold out, warm in, surface between will condense moisture unless insulated. As you stated, not much breeze...that's when it will be the worst. I keep the top of each door on mine open about 1 foot...you lose warm air as it rises, but it also takes the moisture out with it. One trick I do when setting up is always check wind direction,and face one of the doors "into" the wind, with the other end open, forcing air circulation to carry the moistue out.

[wolfman-k]

You could also try a small fan-computer or one that is sold for fishhouses.

[Tyler23]

does everyone have this problem? that dont have the completely insulated house....

[Gissert]

I have it. Not much you can do about it. I set my house up in the garage, then run the heater to dry it out.

[RebelSS]

I do, too..since day one. The more you run heater, the worse it is. About the only time I don't is if it's around 30* and sunny. My house is black, which really soaks up the sun and saves on the propane.

[Tyler23]

i am gunna get a fan and some refleix or w/e its called and hoping it takes care of most of that problem. it gets kinda annoying

[Todd_J]

I got it bad... Some days it's like a flippin downpour. Do your best to move the air around, open the door every now and again to swap the moisture-rich air for cold dry air, or keep the heater off.

I have taken to putting on my rainsuit when I take off my snowsuit.

Cheers!

[eyemaster]

I would keep the air circulating anyway to keep fresh air coming into the house.

[no bait nate]

i've got an otter lodge and it happens bad. i usually just bring a towel with and wipe down the inside as i need to and always before i leave. it really sucks when ya to out the next morning early and your shack is frozen together from all that moisture and ya can't get it set up. then just throw the towel inside to dry and take it along the next time

[dillon]

I just used my new Voyager this weekend and couldn't believe the amount of condensation on the walls. The water ran down the walls and got into the zippers which froze them shut. The running water froze and formed a sold line of ice where the canvas walls met the plastic tub. I had to bring the house into the cabin, thaw it out, and wipe it down or I don't think that I could have opened it the next day.

I think the problem is that wall material doesn't breath. Does anyone know if Clam is using a different fabric than in the past?

I also had problems with the bolt heads snapping off while putting it together(not over tightening)and then again while fishing out of it. It seems like they used poor quality bolts that are too hard and brittle.

I returned my Voyager for a refund. I my opinion, until the condensation problem is solved, this fish house is a piece of junk.

[Maverick]

90 percent of the condensation comes from your propane heater. This past week was very cold, so most of us had the heater on high. Propane gives off a ton of water vapor during the burning process. When the vapor leaves the stove it is hot and rises then it hits that nice cold ceiling and "wham" freezes instantly. The only way, besides insulation that helps is to circulate the air inside the house and let some of the warm vapor escape before freezing.

I have a hub type house and I hang a Coleman Tent Fan in the middle and put it on high. I also crack the door and both windows some. As soon as the temps get back above zero we won't see as many problems, but below zero and it's a rainstorm inside.

[tchow]

Have the Clam Nanook and did the roof with Reflectix. Buddy had his new Big Buddy Heater out. It was about -12 to -15 without the Windchill. He had Heater on low setting and with Fan running. There was some condensation on the sides but not much.

Heater was set near the front door. He took out a Temp Gauge and set it up near the top. Temperature inside was a nice 22 deg C

[Dave]

got a clam voyager this year used it for the first time this weekend and it seems to have a awfull lot of condensation? we had the windows open and closed. there was zero wind.. what can i do to eliminate this?

Sell it and buy a Canvas Craft NorpacR2

Sorry, had to say it.

[skolfoppa]

I have reflectix in my yukon and still fight the battle with moisture. The computer fan helps, but I have to be dilligent in changing the angle and direction.

Dave- CC will be in the HSO store in no time with your plugs. Do you work there or just invest in the company?

[Dave]

Dave- CC will be in the HSO store in no time with your plugs. Do you work there or just invest in the company?

I invested the cost of my double-flip.

[rcatcherman]

It's just like a house over insulated. You need good venting.

[Insp Gadget]

yep, that's the answer, leave the zippers cracked open, what ever, you need to let the water out, only answer. Had several, different degrees. need to change the air.

That doesn't mean you have to have a cold draft, just from the start, leave a top zipper open a bit and allow for some air flow somewhere. the colder it is out, the more you need to let it out.

[Mr. Sheephead]

I have noticed they have changed the clam tent. It is thiner and the black out material looks like it would condensate. I now have my answer. Thanks for the heads up. I have a clam scout with the original tent material no black out, and it has never had condensation. I am looking to upgrade to a two man and will not buy a product that has condensation. You would think they would test for that before they put it on the market. You should not have to use a towel or a fan in your portable. Do the Frabils have condensation? It looks like they would with their tent material. I am going to wait to see if these companies address this problem. Clam just needs to keep the original tent material and dye it black instead of rubberizing it or what ever they did.

[Maverick]

On another thread someone said that they put their heater on a piece of plywood so that the snow does't melt in front of it. That got me to thinking about how much moisture is created by a big Mr. Heater running on high in cold weather. Last time I was out, there was significant melting in front of my heater. It must have put a ton of moisture in the house. I am sure there are lots of causes for condensation, but next time out I am going to bring something to put the heater on to prevent melting or set the heater up on something like a milk crate. I think it might help.