Todays game

[harvey lee]

Pier-Mijares was just taking care of business. Young should be mad at the ump for the poor call with Thames trying to wreck Cabrera at second outside the baseline.

That caused all the issues.

Sorry Pier, I thought you were saying Young was correct with being upset with Mijares.

My bad

[Sifty]

Wow 4 errors.

Sifty

[fishin58]

I didnt get to see it and the radio/gamecast didnt do it justice. Was delmon mad at Mijares or telling him to peg the tigers?

[HOT SPOT]

Young= What a [PoorWordUsage] I would sit him Thats a good way to act. Oh ya How about that BIG E he had in the second in. [PoorWordUsage] poor d fence on his part looks like a JV high school player out in the field

[harvey lee]

Young was mad at Mijares. Bert B said Young needs to learn the game of baseball. You take one and you give one.

[fishin58]

Hot Spot go away and talk about JV, go back and get some spelling lessons. Delmon was also 3 for 4 on the day. And gets plunked because they did not want to face him.

Thanks Harvey, Gordo was not sure what was going.

[RJ]

OK - we split. Didn't really solve anything, except making your path clear. You need to win and hope we lose. We face Peavy and you get Grenke. Really hoping to avoid the game on Monday. magic number still 2. If we win one and youwin three, we play Monday, right? Hope we win two. LOL

I didn't get to see any of today's, as work was where I was at. I kept sort of watch on Fox Sports.com I think Fox Sports TV has a replay tonight. Might have to at least watch the last couple innings. More to come, I'm sure.

[AWH]

If they need a tie breaker game it would be at the dome, which would mean they'd have to delay it until Tuesday. Packers at Vikings Monday night.

Aaron

[greebs]

didn't see the game but heard postgame on radio and they interviewed cabrera. surprisingly he was only critical of mijares. gardy was also quoted as saying mijares should not have did what he did. kind of odd how this situation turned out. I too would have thought that gardy would have said something about young being in the wrong but he only sounded upset with mijares.

[blue_healer_guy]

You have got to be kidding Pier. There was no reason for the punk Jose or whatever his name is to throw at somebody's head in blowout in which Baker was missing inside all day. The reason young did what he did and its backed up by the ss and the manager is simply Jose dont bat! Young knew from the time he stepped in the box he was gonna get plunked and I dont fault him 1 bit for being pizzed. Your love afair with cuddy/young is out of control. Did you ever play the game or just take the 101 course at college?

[UdeLakeTom]

Don Baylor would have been laughing all the way to 1st base.

So Delmon got hit...is it the 1st time he was hit by a baseball???

The best part of the game after Baker went high with a breaking ball on Thomes and Thomes did a glare back, was Baker striking the dude out on a call 3rd strike.

[B. Amish]

do we know that young was yelling at mijares? my initial thought was he was yelling at the entire dugout for not getting out of the dugout.

but it makes sense that he'd be p-off at mijares. my favorite part was when the cameras showed nathan running in from the bullpen.... all by himself.

[PierBridge]

Yeah I get Majeres screwed up and should not have done what he did.

But what Delmon did has never been done in the history of the game. He got plunked in the calf for crying out loud and called out his own pitcher and had to be restained from attacking him...LOL.

Peter Gammons quote. "I've never seen anything like that 55 years of covering baseball"

I could go deeper but we'll just go with what Bert said he needs to learn the game of baseball and while that doesn't look like it's going to be the case we can only hope and dream it comes to fruition....

[Gary Crichton]

RJ yep we are right back to where we started and that is a good thing for you all. Now we need Windy's team to step up and you have had issues with the Sux this year, so losing 2 out of 3 is not a far fetched possibility. We have to find a way to beat Grenke on Saturday. Playoff game would be Tuesday as said the Vikings/Packer game is on Monday. It will be an interesting weekend, and be glad our teams are still in it, with 3 games to play.

For my take as I watched the replay last nite, it started with the take out slide on Cabrea at 2nd. Mijares is to blame mostly due to the location of the wild pitch. Hey throw at his knees with a changeup or a slider, not a 94 MPH fastball behind the batter. Do it right or not at all. Yes there was to be payback and that happened, although that was a pretty weak bench clearing incident. Not very intense at all. Young keep your mouth shut and take it you wussy. You have your discussion after the game and in private, NOT on the field in front of everyone to see. Please learn the game first and concern yourself with your defense. Learn how to get in front of the ball first. That was a very poor attempt at that ball, and thankfully the Detroit player did not hustle out of the box, or he would have taken third. IMO a very sloppy game on both teams.

[AWH]

More on "the incident". Apparently no one on the team would defend Mijares.

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Twins angry at teammate’s ‘selfish act’

By Jeff Passan, Yahoo! Sports

12 hours, 36 minutes ago

Buzz up! 49 PrintDETROIT – Delmon Young(notes) was furious. He writhed on the ground, his knee swelling from the 93-mph fastball that just ricocheted off it. When he stood up, he slammed his helmet. He wanted an explanation. Young turned toward the culprit. He jabbed his index finger through the air, took the heavy-footed steps of a man intent on delivering a beatdown and readied himself to charge and maim the responsible party.

Young took a fastball off his knee in the ninth inning Thursday against the Tigers.

(Getty Images)

Who sat in his own dugout.

Yes, it was that sort of a day at Comerica Park, the kind where the Minnesota Twins staving off elimination from the postseason comprised the third most interesting nugget of the day. Obscuring the Twins’ 8-3 victory Thursday that kept the Detroit Tigers from clinching the American League Central was first the hullabaloo created by an Internet-age whodunit – whether Twins catcher Joe Mauer(notes) had two days earlier stolen signs and passed them along to teammates, as alleged by a fan in his own Zapruder-like account of the incident. Mauer said no. The Twins denied it. The Tigers were dubious. The fan is sure he’s right.

By the afternoon, once the Mauer tumult died down, a new issue was bubbling, one far more toxic to a team trying to pull off a monumental comeback and still two games behind Detroit with three to play. Young believed that Tigers pitcher Jeremy Bonderman(notes) hit him in retaliation for a 94-mph fastball Twins rookie reliever Jose Mijares(notes) threw behind Adam Everett(notes) the previous inning … because he was mad the Tigers were stealing bases when trailing by six runs. Every Twin, in fact, from manager Ron Gardenhire down to the 25th man, faulted Mijares for Young’s throbbing knee. So when Young melted down, they stopped him – though if Mijares took a wayward fist to the jaw, no one would have blamed Young.

“I knew somebody was going to have to wear it,” Young told Minneapolis-area reporters. “You can’t throw behind one of their players … and expect nothing to happen. …

“He needs to pay attention to how baseball’s played.”

The postgame vitriol toward the 24-year-old Mijares was remarkable in its unanimity. Twins shortstop Orlando Cabrera(notes) said Mijares apologized. Others hadn’t heard any contrition. Either way, it wasn’t sufficient. Because of Mijares, a blowout evolved into an ugly situation that could have turned disastrous.

“It was a selfish act on his part,” Cabrera said. “Because as a team we’re here to win ballgames. We’re not here to get into fights or hit people.”

Both benches cleared as Young hobbled around. Home-plate umpire Angel Hernandez already had thrown out Tigers manager Jim Leyland for arguing. Now Bonderman was gone, and catcher Gerald Laird(notes) – who earlier in the day told Yahoo! Sports that the Twins are “really good at stealing signs” – mouthed off to Hernandez and got booted, too. No one wanted to fight, really, but an ill-timed word here or a machismo-filled posture there could have caused something benign to degenerate.

Tempers cooled. Young remained in the game and never got to Mijares, teammates ensuring they stayed away from each other. The Twins were apologetic for causing the mess. Gardenhire intimated as much to Leyland.

“We told him we screwed up,” Gardenhire said. “They did what they had to do, and it’s over with. They did the right thing.”

Only in baseball, mind you, is intentional retaliation via speed-limit-busting projectile hitting flesh deemed the right thing. Young praised Bonderman, in fact, for keeping the beaning on the lower half of his body. In the midst of such barbarism – one man ravenously going after another wearing the same uniform – the teams themselves stuck by a code.

As they fought for a playoff spot, their mutual respect played out in the oddest manner.

“It’s hard for me to believe we just played the biggest game of the year and won, and I’m sitting here having to describe what happened,” said Twins catcher Mike Redmond(notes), who apologized to Everett – a Twin last season – after Mijares buzzed him. “I don’t really know what to say. It’s up to him to figure out what he’s thinking.”

Mijares changed quickly after the game and escaped the clubhouse without talking to reporters. Outfielder Carlos Gomez(notes) said he offered to translate for Mijares, a Venezuelan who speaks limited English, but Mijares “felt so bad he didn’t want to talk.”

“On the plane,” Gomez said, “he told me he’s going to say he’s sorry. I hope they listen. I’m not a veteran, but I know you have to forgive.”

It’s easier to do so knowing Mijares has a 2.05 ERA in 68 games as a left-handed specialist, and that the Twins almost certainly will need him this weekend against Kansas City. Detroit’s magic number remained at 2, meaning they simply need to win two games against Chicago to clinch the division. Or win one and hope the Twins slip Saturday against Zack Greinke(notes). Or back in by watching Minnesota lose a pair.

Should the White Sox sweep the Tigers and the Twins take two of three, a one-game playoff awaits Tuesday at the Metrodome, hosting its final baseball before the opening of Target Field next spring. The Twins don’t want this to be the dome’s last hurrah.

Which means they’ll have to take Gomez’s pleading and get past the Mijares snafu and the sign-stealing farce, then hope the Tigers’ fade reaches epic proportions. Should be easy for most. Except the guy limping off the plane.

“Gotta understand and learn how to play the game,” Young said. “It’s not the minor leagues up here.”

No, it certainly isn’t. In the minors there are no YouTube conspiracy theories and no games that will draw more than 40,000 people in an afternoon, no days like the wacky, wild Thursday that nearly redefined Twin killing

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Aaron

[fishin58]

Good take GC, Delmon was wrong for how he acted, but at least he had some fire in him. Pretty lame that the Twins took that laying down. Nathan was one of what 4 guys to actually show some emotion. i am not saying it should have went to blows but at least get out of the dugout and backup your player.

Detroit sure made the effort to get out there.

[SledNeck]

Yeah I get Majeres screwed up and should not have done what he did.

But what Delmon did has never been done in the history of the game. He got plunked in the calf for crying out loud and called out his own pitcher and had to be restained from attacking him...LOL.

Peter Gammons quote. "I've never seen anything like that 55 years of covering baseball"

I could go deeper but we'll just go with what Bert said he needs to learn the game of baseball and while that doesn't look like it's going to be the case we can only hope and dream it comes to fruition....

BOY. Someone might wish to change their post now..............

[harvey lee]

Maybe just too much pressure on the Twins to win and not get elimanated from the play offs. Maybe it does not matter as we would have to play the Yanks and I believe we all know what would happen with that series if we would go into it with our eyes open.

I would love to see the Twins make the play offs but to face the Yanks is probably more than we would wish for.

[AWH]

Spot on about the Yankees. What have the Twins won, something like 3 out of the last 25 against them? As much as I'd love to see the Twins get in the playoffs, I've thought all along that the Twins and Tigers were simply fighting for the right to get swept by the Yankees.

Aaron

[Jakesbuds]

But the Yankees are the all-time greatest CHOKE ARTISTS in the playoffs so if, and that's a big if, the Twins make it, they may have a chance.

[AWH]

That's true. But the Twins can't seem to beat that team even when the odds seem like they're completely in their favor over the last hand full of years. It's the one team that seems to have our number no matter how the teams have been playing or where the games are played. But it's gotta change sometime!

Aaron

[AWH]

I don't know that I'd call them the all time greatest choke artists though. They've managed to win it all just a couple times. The Braves of the last 20 years would rank higher in my book!

Aaron

[Jakesbuds]

I don't know that I'd call them the all time greatest choke artists though. They've managed to win it all just a couple times. The Braves of the last 20 years would rank higher in my book!

Aaron

You are right, they are at the top or a very close second according to books but they seem to have that knack to make it a spectacular choke. I guess to me it's more bittersweet to see them choke than anyone else seeing as they have all the money and talent in the world and just can't get it done when it counts

[harvey lee]

I do believe they will be in the World Series this year but I guess we will just have to wait and see.

I have no problem playing them in the first round but it will be a HUGE uphill battle to be honest. Heck when was the last time we even won a game in their park?

[HOT SPOT]

About Young getting hit- maybe none of the twins care about him.

let him stick up for himself. Look at that E he had com on you got to have that. I like his bat but he seems like a Manny in the process with about 1/3 of the bat