JohnMickish Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 The wife and I are looking at getting either a Prius or an Escape hybrid. Does anyone here have any first hand knowledge of either? We are kind of leaning toward the Escape right now. How long are the batteries supposed to last on these things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DTro Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Quote: Not everybody that owns a hybrid is doing it strictly for the MPG's. Some people are doing it to try to reduce the need for forign oil and maybe try to to something a little "green" to compensate for the 14mpg monster I use to tow the toys around with. You could just go ahead and buy some carbon offsets Heck I found a site that you can purchase a ton offset for as little as 5.50. So for about couple hundred dollars a year a guy could be carbon neutral. Problem solved. Me? I'll just keep on keeping on and not let the mainstream media make decisions for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CJH Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I believe the 07 VW was discontinued, the 08 is the new diesel, and is supposed to be out in May the last I heard. Its supposed to get mid 40's in the city and mid 50's on the highway, so its actually more efficient than a hybrid in the combined cycle (until they are fully electric rechargeable). So you would be saving more oil than in a hybrid. Its great there are going to be more options out there for efficient vehicles. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Glockwinger Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 [quote You could just go ahead and buy some carbon offsets Heck I found a site that you can purchase a ton offset for as little as 5.50. So for about couple hundred dollars a year a guy could be carbon neutral. Problem solved. Me? I'll just keep on keeping on and not let the mainstream media make decisions for me. That is a great post! Not hybrid, but E85...when I bought my last car, the sales guy asked if I wanted an E85 car. In the end I got him to tell me that they actually got worse gas mileage on average than a standard gas engine. Do your research and buy what is best for you, not what the Gore machine with all the carbon offsets is trying to sell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 JohnMickish Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 Yes, a vehicle running on E-85 will not get the same MPG's but the fuel cost less, and there is less foreign oil in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 shamrock7 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Bought a 2008 Camry Hybrid in Novemeber. Wanted the fuel economy of the Prius but just could stomach the looks of that car. Gets really close to book MPG of 34 Highway didn't do much city driving so can't comment on that. We have gotten up to 44 MPG. Took the car on a 5000 mile road trip to Florida. We were impressed with the overall ride of the vehicle. Have a Suburban sitting in the garage also so expected nice ride and got it. We were told by the salesman (known) that they have yet to replace a battery on a Toyota so they do not know how long the battery will last. As previously stated, if you get in and just drive it like your old car, you will not get the mileage. But, if you use your instrumentation , you will really improve your mileage. Overall. Worth the money. IMOBurns less than 1/2 the fuel of the Suburban but doesn't have room for the 3 large dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Powerstroke Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I am glad that you made the statement about buying a hybrid being a statement against foreign oil.I believe that to be the main reason to own a hybrid or to switch to E-85. They do not save as much money as buyers would like and rarely do they perform the same. I agree because it would be one of my reasons. I would use domestically made fuel or hybrid to reduce my use of fuels in general. As many know, most of the US oil comes from Canada and S. America. Unfortunately in our worldwide economy it still is effected by world oil markets. Unfortunately I would want my hybrid to be at least comparable to the extra investment, so that is why I pass on it. Yes it is making a statement, but its not a sacrifice I'm willing to make. Also, the prius has only been around since '01 (maybe late '00) so battery changes should start coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kodiak Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 how do you heat an electrical vehicle in the winter and keep the windows clear, there is no coolant to heat?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BobT Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Electric heat I would imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 fishwidow Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Can't speak to other hybrids, but the Ford Escape does have a 4 cylinder gas engine. When the defroster of A/C is on the gas engine runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Capt. Don* Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 There is a dc/dc converter from the battery to the electric traction motor, this conversion creates a great deal of heat and needs to be cooled, there are two separate cooling systems, one for the engine, one for the converter which is used to provide cabin heat when running on electric power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jeremy airjer W Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 So that how they do it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The wife and I are looking at getting either a Prius or an Escape hybrid. Does anyone here have any first hand knowledge of either? We are kind of leaning toward the Escape right now. How long are the batteries supposed to last on these things?
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