Barry Bonds

[genegodawa]

Thanks for the props Windy.

I remove myself from this discussion as I don't really care anymore...nyuk, nyuk...but I will enjoy the debate amongst youze guyz.

[PierBridge]

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Ozzie,

I hear what everybody is saying and I guess I look at the results from what somebody is doing. Griffey does have a sweet "power" swing, makes for some huge taters but his avg says that he is not making contact as many times as the others in the group. I would say the best pure free throw shooter in basketball would have to be Rick Barry and he shot underhand. Again, high percentage, ugly looking but pure motion, nothing compared to MJ or Bird but higher percentage.

Windy

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Agreed......

[ozzie]

the egg!!!! it just appeared and hatched into a chicken and there you have it!!!

[blue_healer_guy]

Ok windy, this may end this debate. Let's say your coaching a senior in high school, never played ball before. Are you gonna teach him to take 2 runnings steps to hit the pitch, or tell him to be balanced, stride, and rotate the hips.

[genegodawa]

and swing with his eyes closed while putting one foot in the bucket!

[mitch]

What about Joe Mauers swing? I think his is one of the best in baseball.

[PierBridge]

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Ok windy, this may end this debate. Let's say your coaching a senior in high school, never played ball before. Are you gonna teach him to take 2 runnings steps to hit the pitch, or tell him to be balanced, stride, and rotate the hips.

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I'm guessing he'd teach that nonsense Ichiro does...

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

What, you guys never watched Happy Gilmore??? Sweet golf swing with the two step shuffle, LOL

Windy

[genegodawa]

"Step into it!"

I can still hear my Frosh coach yelling encouragement like that from the 3rd base coaches box - but that was our signal to bunt!

[blue_healer_guy]

Honest to God Windy, after my post earlier I knew you were gonna come back with Happy Gilmore!

[honker23]

Two undeniable facts regarding this issue. Bonds has a sweet swing, and he took steroids.

I haven't seen a contact percentage stat, so I don't care if a guy has a horizontal swing plane for 2 ms longer than Bonds if he's just hitting a dribbler to short. Bonds is technically a great hitter with a near perfect swing in my opinion.

Ichiro has good hands and speed, but not a great swing. By the way didn't Knoblach have a flat swing too.

I guess the big hurt never really impressed me much either.

On a side note, if we are talking hitting without A-rod, we're forgetting a pretty good ball player with the ability to hit any pitch in the zone to all parts of the park.

[goman]

you are all right he cheated. The record should be broken by someone who works hard and dosent take steriods

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

I will second that, Go Man!

Windy

[Coach Dog]

But guys, Barry said himself, "The record is not tainted at all. At all. Period." I laughed my butt off when he said this. If you looked in his eyes when he said this, I think he even tried not to laugh.

[PierBridge]

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A-Rod would be fine by me. You never ever hear his name mentioned in the same sentence as steroids.

You guy's are sadly mistaken if don't you think A-Roid has been on the Juice in his career

Well, Well what do we have here!

[SledNeck]

I would bet over 50% of players between 86-2003 have taken something thats banned in baseball now.

[blue_healer_guy]

35%

[SledNeck]

maybe 50% of starters? 75% of DHs?

[genegodawa]

-0-% of FM chat guys over age 50.

[PierBridge]

100 percent if you are talking greenies "Speed" and 90 percent if your talking creatine and the like.

[Windy City]

Geno,

Looks like some serious "fishin" going on in here! LOL I am just turning 50 this May but you can count me into your catagory too!

[SledNeck]

judging by what is the FM standard for "steroid use"

here is another cheater

OH MY look at the weight gain!

[MILLELACMANIAC]

40%

[genegodawa]

OK, over 49 Windy.

[thatoneguy]

Sledneck - not even close. There's a difference between adding some pudge (see also Hrbek, Kent) and growing muscles on your muscles - to say nothing of the severe acne, growing head and other indicia. Try again.