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nofishfisherman Grand Master

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He's hitting .389 I believe, how can he not be in the Allstar game? If AJ is selected over Mauer then there is something wrong with the system.

He's still shy of MVP consideration becuase his RBI's are still low for an MVP, but in a few years I think there will be a real shot at it possibly.

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rundrave Grand Master

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yes Mauer is on a roll I want to see .400 really bad, not for the entire season but just for him to hit the mark, and I need to start drinking land-o' lakes milk! haha

I think Mauer, Santana and Liriano all deserve to be named to the ll-Star team this year. But Guillen, who gets the privilege of selecting the All-Star reserves for winning the World Series last year, plans to load the team with Sox, meaning deserving players all over the league will be left out.

But we cant blame Ozzie, though, he's just following a trend Joe Torre shamefully started a few years ago when he stocked his teams with underachieving Yankees.

It's bad enough that the fans pick the starters (Jorge Posada leads Mauer in voting [PoorWordUsage]????), and now the managers are making a mockery of the process as well.

Tom Kelly picked the 1992 AL team, and while he easily could have decided to send Brian Harper, Shane Mack or Greg Gagne to what would've been their only All-Star game, he picked only Chuck Knoblauch and Rick Aguilera. Because he knew others were more deserving.

It's too bad none of today's managers are able to show the same restraint.

Either limit the number of players that can come from one team, or strip the managers of the privilege.

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He definately should be at the All Star game, and it wouldn't surprise me to see Ozzie go with AJ. Though I did read an article and I can't remember on what site, that Ozzie may get some "strong suggestions" that MLB to go with Mauer. Though given his current relationship with the commissioner's office I'm sure he'll go with AJ anyways.

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He's hitting .389 I believe, how can he not be in the Allstar game? If AJ is selected over Mauer then there is something wrong with the system.

He's still shy of MVP consideration becuase his RBI's are still low for an MVP, but in a few years I think there will be a real shot at it possibly.

Im gonna call you on this one because guess how many RBIs Ichiro had in his MVP season in 2001...

anyone, anyone?

69

Doesnt matter if he was leadoff or not 69 is 69. Mauer's catching position will factor in for sure. If Mauer can keep up the hitting and he finishes 10 points higher than the next guy in BA, he'll be on the shortlist if not tops for MVP.

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nofishfisherman Grand Master

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If you just look at the stats Ichiro shouldn't have been the MVP in 2001 anyways.

Giambi hit .342 only 8 points behind Ichiro's .350, Giambi also hit 38 HR's and 120 RBI's compared to Ichiro's 8 HR's and 69 RBI's.

The main reasons Ichiro got the MVP was becuase of his hit total of 242, he is one of only 3 to ever have over 240 hits in a season, and Seattle went 116-46 in 2001 which helps make a case for him as the best player on the best team.

Mauer is hurt in his MVP chance becuase he is not on the best team in baseball like Ichiro was, and he is not on pace to have over 240 hits like Ichiro did, in fact he trails Ichiro by almost 20 hits already.

Since MVP awards go to the person who helped their team the most they almost always go to the best player on one of the best teams from the regular season. So since the Twins are barely over .500 an argument can be made for how important was Mauers great season since it didn't help the twins get to the playoffs.

He will need to do something extraordinary to get the MVP this year, like hit .400 or close to it.

I say give him year or two and when the twins are again at the top of the league like I think they will be then if he is still hitting like this then he will have that shot at an MVP award. For now lets just hope he makes an allstar game.

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Not saying Mauer will win the MVP this year, I don't think he will, but how about Kirk Gibson in 1988 .290 avg 25 hr 76 RBIs. Granted this was 1988, but that year Gibson was the MVP to his team.

Voters might not look at a player like Gibson today and even give him any consideration, but we can never say never if Gibson won it maybe, just maybe Mauer could too. I think for him to win it the Twins would have to pull off the near impossible and somehow jump over the sox and the tigers take the division and go the world series! I can dream right! grin.gif

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Nofishfisherman--The system has been broke for as long as the fans have been voting. To their credit they get most of the players right but some are obvious popularity contest winners. There has to be a better way. If Selig is going to continue to give the All-Star victor World Series home field advantage then someone other than the fans should determine who goes.

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nofishfisherman Grand Master

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Like I said, it can happen for a player not on the top team to win the MVP but it sure isn't the norm. You had to go back 15 years to find 2.

Both of these players were also in the middle of their career and had established themselves as great players. A-rod has been refered to as the best player in baseball for years.

I just think that Mauer has to overcome alot to become MVP this year. He is on a small market team that is not even in a playoff race right now. He is a young player who hasn't proven himself over a few years yet, and besides his average none of his other stats are jumping out at me as MVP type numbers.

It pains me to say it but I think he will be overlooked this year unless he either hits near .400 for the year or if some of the other top players get hurt.

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besides his average none of his other stats are jumping out at me as MVP type numbers.

OBP - .458, best in the league and one of if not the most important stats in baseball.

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Windy City Walleye Hunter Grand Master

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Guys,

I have to agree 100%. I am tired of seeing Boston and NY players who are not even in the top 3 of their positions continue to get into the game. Until the last few years, I just kind of blew it off but now that it matters (home field) I think that the voting by the fans should be eliminated. It is a joke when the World Champs don't have a player in the top 2 spots at any division and the Mauer thing is criminal. I am just thankful that Ozzie has the power to get some of our guys in there who do deserve to be there. I is just evening the field and continuing a trend that has been going for several years. Tomorrow should be interesting. Ozzie does have a vested interest in winning the game so I can guarantee that Big Bad Bobby Jenks will be in Ozzie's holster when the game is on the line with his 100 MPH fastball and his "uncle charley" that is just filthy after seeing a 100 mph pea for a few pitches. I guess we will have to wait till tomorrow and see. Windy

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Although it was AJ that got the Sox the title (just ask LA) last yr, Ozzie and the Sox are cursed as being a good all around "team", so if it is really an allstar game and not a game where the champs play the other league's allstars, Ozzie has got to take Thome with Jenks and Mauer.

Best signing for sure last season. Williams for GM of the year?

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