1lessdog Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I built a spearing house this summer and am getting ready to go. The problem is I have never been in a house or seen it done other than videos. Anyone want to give me some advice on how to do it. Do you throw the spear or drop it? Decoys or live bait? Any help would be nice. and if someone would like to go and show me the ropes let me know Thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Relive your memories take a Kid Hunting and Fishing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 What part of the state are you spearing in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnspearingguide Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Sent you a Personal message.everyone, be safe on this early ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrklean Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 What kind of spear do you have also? I have found the laser cut ones you don't want to throw, or at least the one I had every time I tried to throw/push it I would always have it sail on me. The Amish made one I have now I can throw at angles not problem. As far as decoys it never hurts to have both a live and fake, at times one will out perform the other. Others will chime in and give some great advice also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I use live and artificial at the same time. Lots of different opinions there and I don't think there is a right answer.Make sure the head of your spear is in the water before you release it. I give mine what I would call a moderate push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archerysniper Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 The easiest way to explain it. Just like your shooting pool and you want to tap it in, just a soft push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor_guy Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 We all start somewhere. Look at the threads here, lots of information. If you don't see answers feel free to ask, people here are happy to help and won't give you grief like some other places. The best way to do it is to see it. Find others in your area who can show you the ropes. If you are in the metro area we get together on fish lake in Harris several times a year. Otherwise see if you can catch up with someone on here and spend an afternoon with them learning the how's and whys of set up and presentations. Welcome to the obsession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1lessdog Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 I live outside Moorhead. I know of a lake by Barnsville that has some big Northerns in it. As I have cought many 10 to 15 lb fish out of it. And in the camera at 14 to 15 feet its real clear. So if I was in 4 to 5 ft should be clear. Or do you think i should go deeper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Spearing shallow is a little easier to judge fish and shots tend to be easier. That being said nothing wrong with spearing the deeper water. Is there a weed line or sharp transition by chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikestabber Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 As others have said, get someone who knows the ropes to go with the first time or two. Offer to help them set their house up so you can learn how that goes, too (picking a spot, blocking your house up, banking it, etc.).You can read these forums until you're blue in the face, and granted, it's all good advice, but you will learn more in 5 minutes with an experienced spear fisherman than any hours of reading would ever produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1lessdog Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 There is a weed line as I like to get in it as we catch lots of Bass in that area. And the Northers are always cruising through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 There is a weed line as I like to get in it as we catch lots of Bass in that area. And the Northers are always cruising through. That's where I would set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor_guy Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 That's where I would set up. Winner winner pike for dinner!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvm1 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 How deep do you guys spear? I always set up in 10-12 max, can't see much otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwal Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Too bad We are so far apart I would gladly share sometime in the shack with you. MJ post mentions some good point on fish location. When learning I would try to find a spot on a weed edge that is not to deep to lessen your learning curve on which technique dropping pushing or throwing works with your spear. Deep water and a laser spear can be very frustrating as they want to plane one way or another if thrown or pushed. I am a big fan of using a teaser to spin a spoon or painted golf ball and I always have a wood decoy down. If the fish ignore the spoon I go to 2 decoys. Mwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I've sat as deep as 20. Lake my perm ends up on I usually end up in 12-16 feet or so. It goes from a solid wall of weeds to that depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwal Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Try joining the Mn Dark house & Angling Assn. They may have a chapter in your area with friendly people ready to help you learn. I was fortunate to have a retired guy take me under his wing when I was a teenager in the 70's. He would see me staring at my bobber in the brutal cold waiting for a pike. Remember in MN the State where nothing is legal tip ups were outlawed until the 1980's so you just stood there watching your hole freeze. Anyhow he invited me into his spear shack to warm up and I saw him spear a pike. I was hooked and built a house the next season and he taught me about spinning prince albert cans to attract pike and carved me my first decoys. The only color you need according to him was red and white. Been spearing ever since. Ever grateful that some old timer took the time to be nice to a random kid on the ice. So I make it a point to return the favor when I can. I am introducing my 9 year old Nephew this season and my son's 25 year old buddy. Doing this is the only way we will keep this ancient tradition going.Mwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikestabber Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 The only color you need according to him was red and white. That's great... My Grandfather, who taught me to spear and to carve, had about 10 decoys he had made and those were the only ones he used. He had one that was some type of green, white, and yellow (which we never used). The other nine were red and white! He's speared more and bigger fish than anyone I know. He never used a sucker, either, as they "just get eaten by the hammer handles and are a waste of money." While I do run both a live and a fake, I can't argue with his success over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1lessdog Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Another couple of questions. I have a 7 x 14 wheel house and I have a life time lic on the trailer. And a 3 yr lic on the house. I built a 7 x 14 trailer this summer to spear out of and put a 4 man portable up when I get to the lake. I know I need a lic on the trailer. But do I need a lic for the portable? I have lived in Mn for a few yrs but never fished with a portable. And I have a fishing lic but I also need a spearing lic?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 If the portable is left unattended overnight it needs to have a license. Yes you need a spearing license. It's only $5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye43 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 If you spear in deep water or near a sharp drop off, only run your decoy 8 to 10 feet down. A pike will come from any dept for a meal. You don't need to run your decoys deep, just so you can make a good throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 If you spear in deep water or near a sharp drop off, only run your decoy 8 to 10 feet down. A pike will come from any dept for a meal. You don't need to run your decoys deep, just so you can make a good throw. Good post.To the op pike look up not down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archerysniper Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 And keep your cell phone tuck into a inside pants pocket, anything you drop will end up down the spear hole. I ended up doing the polar plunge for my phone on Mon to get it back, the Samsung galaxy s5 really is water proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor_guy Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I'm thinking it's wise to bring a life jacket if you fish with arch. Anything in his house is fair game to go down the hole. Phone, heater, stools, it can all decoy a fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikestabber Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 If you spear in deep water or near a sharp drop off, only run your decoy 8 to 10 feet down. A pike will come from any dept for a meal. You don't need to run your decoys deep, just so you can make a good throw. I have literally run my decoys 4' down in 22' of water and had good success. Food for thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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