Roll Tide

[BartmanMN]

I can't believe C. Jones was third sting QB for OSU. He looked good and was cool as a cucumber out there.

[Big Dave2]

You cannot have it both ways BigDave. You either live by the record and how the committee votes or agree with the playoff system.

Looks to me like YOU are the one trying to have it both ways. You are the one claiming that the playoff system discredited Alabama from having been in the top 4 in the first place which is carp and you know it. You are the one in love with the playoff system but yet you won't accept the data that was collected. The fact is Alabama was right there with Ohio State, Oregon and FSU were not. We will never know about TCU.

[CaptainMusky]

Looks to me like YOU are the one trying to have it both ways. You are the one claiming that the playoff system discredited Alabama from having been in the top 4 in the first place which is carp and you know it. You are the one in love with the playoff system but yet you won't accept the data that was collected. The fact is Alabama was right there with Ohio State, Oregon and FSU were not. We will never know about TCU.

Um, NO. Where have I ever stated I had any problems with the teams selected to be in the playoff? I havent. YOU are the one who said FSU and Oregon shouldnt have been there, but were also against the playoff thing in the first place. In YOUR system (pre playoff), FSU would have earned the right to play in the championship game. So, which is it? You are against the playoff or not? You cannot have it both ways which is my point. I could care less about the 4 teams they selected. Personally I think TCU may have earned their shot to be included, but I have no major issue with the 4 they did include. I certainly wouldnt have kicked out Oregon or FSU because IMO they deserved to be there. FSU certainly didnt do anything to exclude them.

Where have I said I am in love with the system? Started drinking early today?

I think its a better representation of finding a true champion vs just handing a trophy over to 1 of 2 arbitrarily selected teams, YES.

[CaptainMusky]

The fact is Alabama was right there with Ohio State, Oregon and FSU were not. We will never know about TCU.

By this argument it should have been Alabama, Minnesota, Ohio State and ??? in the 4 since the Gophers were "right there with Ohio State". LOL

[Big Dave2]

]Um, NO. Where have I ever stated I had any problems with the teams selected to be in the playoff? I havent. YOU are the one who said FSU and Oregon shouldnt have been there, but were also against the playoff thing in the first place. In YOUR system (pre playoff), FSU would have earned the right to play in the championship game. So, which is it? You are against the playoff or not? You cannot have it both ways which is my point. I could care less about the 4 teams they selected. Personally I think TCU may have earned their shot to be included, but I have no major issue with the 4 they did include. I certainly wouldnt have kicked out Oregon or FSU because IMO they deserved to be there. FSU certainly didnt do anything to exclude them.

Where have I said I am in love with the system? Started drinking early today?

I think its a better representation of finding a true champion vs just handing a trophy over to 1 of 2 arbitrarily selected teams, YES.

Sorry, after re-reading your initial post I think I misinterpreted it. Been home sick the last 2 days, things are still kind of foggy. Lol.

[CaptainMusky]

You're forgiven. THIS time. :-)

[hawgchaser]

How do you figure Alabama shouldn't have been in the top 4? If anyone it was Oregon and Florida state that didn't belong.

Sorry if I misstated my position. I meant that, by the NCAA selection criteria, Ohio state should not have even been in the 4 team playoff. They jumped from #6 to #4 after blowing out Wisconsin. The selection criteria specifically states "without incenting margin of victory." What a shame if OSU had been left out. My point is that opinion as to who should or should not be in the "playoff" should be irrelevant. All the rankings should be "for entertainment only." The NCAA already has the model in the FCS selection process. 20 of the top 25 ranked teams were in the 24 team playoffs; 22 elimination games were played in order for (#2) NDSU and (#7)Illinois State to meet in the Championship game.

As entertaining as the FBS "playoffs" were, OSU won a 4-team tournament, while NDSU won a national championship.

Can you imagine the revolt if, at the end of the prep season, the Minnesota High School League selected 13 "fine folks" to appoint the 2 teams to play for the state championship. Do you think that revolt would be quelled if they then expanded the championship selection to 4 teams and skipped all the tournaments leading up to the "championship" game?

Despite the money payed out (by the NCAA) to the "left outs", I think the toothpaste is out of the bottle with the results of this year's bowl games and the FBS tournament. OSU and every major school knows that their presence or absence from the tournament is dependent on a vote...not on a process of elimination/advancement. To quote a WWI song, "How Ya Gonna Keep 'em Down on the Farm (After They've Seen Paree?)".

[PurpleFloyd]

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- With a desperation fling and an array of big plays, Chad Kelly and No. 15 Mississippi ended a quarter-century of futility at Bryant-Denny Stadium.

Kelly completed a deflected 66-yard touchdown pass and added two more long ones in the fourth quarter, and the Rebels held on to beat No. 2 Alabama 43-37 on Saturday night.

[Bryce]

Wasn't this a team that was thought could give a pro team a good run? Big time program would probably be a good test for the University of Eden Prairie. 

[Big Dave2]

Wasn't this a team that was thought could give a pro team a good run? Big time program would probably be a good test for the University of Eden Prairie. 

Or the Minnesota Vikings.