Another question for Nils owners

[20lbSloughShark]

You're telling him to run 100:1! You can run straight gas, it would run like a champ for a year, but its far from a good idea. You don't fix a motor by running less oil, ever.

[BryeGuy]

You may want to go read the data sheet on amsoil's HSOforum. This isnt your grandpas 2 cycle lawnboy oil.

[20lbSloughShark]

So somehow Amsoil managed to magically produce an oil more than twice as good as anybody else? No, they slapped a number on the front and say you should have listened to your manual when your motor stops working.

[fisherman-andy]

You're telling him to run 100:1! You can run straight gas, it would run like a champ for a year, but its far from a good idea. You don't fix a motor by running less oil, ever.

[trapperdirk]

I'm trying to remain calm and collected here lad but your making it hard to be for many of us . Do you even own a Nils or any power auger for that matter . ? When I first bought my Nils 7 yrs ago with exchange rates , taxes , shipping and brokerage fees it came to almost a thousand dollars . Do you honestly think that I would risk that kind of coin by running it lean so it seizes up . ? Like somebody said , go read the data on Amsoil and educate yourself on it and two strokes . I'll guarantee you one thing , those of us who do run Amsoil at their recommended ratio have better running and happier augers than you do running a thick goo of dino oil that carbons up the piston and fouls plugs and smokes like heck struggling all the while . I bet mine lasts longer too .

TD

[trapperdirk]

Well said fisherman -Andy .

TD

[20lbSloughShark]

My auger is coming up on 30 years. Synthetic oil at the recommended 40:1, and they will never quit. I don't want an oil war, I'm afraid the country already has that covered. I'm am sticking by the fact that oil has nothing to do with the OP engine problems.

[trapperdirk]

I don't think it's caused by the oil either but what did you expect after your comment on mixture ratios ? . You would not accept what we said and inferred we were feeding all a line of B..S.. of the mix ratios of Amsoil Sabre and that anybody who followed those ratios would cause damage to their powerhead . That's all .

TD

[Jim Almquist]

My Nils is going on 6 or 7 years. Broke it in WITH AMSOIL at 50:1 and run it now at around 80:1. Never have ran any other oil in it EVER. Always non-oxy gas. Broke mine in like Trapper Dirk. Let it run in a milk crate on the deck and run out every 15-20 minutes and revved it for a couple of minutes. My Nils always starts on the third pull. Pump the little deal about 5 time and make sure the kill switch is set to ON, set to full choke and pull.

@ 20lbSloughShark

Your advice is good for dino oil but you really need to read up on the advantages of a true synthetic that is made for air cooled 2 stroke motors. I also run the same 80:1 in my Stihl chainsaw and weed wacker with no problems.

[Esox_Magnum]

So somehow Amsoil managed to magically produce an oil more than twice as good as anybody else? No, they slapped a number on the front and say you should have listened to your manual when your motor stops working.

Amsoil isn't the only one many guys run Opti 2 instead. All synthetic oils like Opti and Amsoil are designed as a 1 mix fits all oil. My Nils also has never seen less than 80:1 since break in. Same with my 2 strike masters before the Nils....

[bee]

My auger is coming up on 30 years. Synthetic oil at the recommended 40:1, and they will never quit. I don't want an oil war, I'm afraid the country already has that covered. I'm am sticking by the fact that oil has nothing to do with the OP engine problems.

If your auger is that old its time to get out of the stone age. Graduate and update.

[20lbSloughShark]

I wish I could, but not all of us are rich. If my auger quit today, I would be done ice fishing this year.

[Fred_Bear]

Make sense?

[hamms-scooter]

I also broke mine in at 50 to 1 and now run 80 to 1. Like mentioned you should read up on the oil before posting it will blow up... My strikemaster was recommended to run 25 to 1 and they all the sudden changed the oil to 40 to 1. Even that was puking gunk out exhaust. Went to amsoil and it started 2 pulls every time... Enough said.

[aczr2k]

Another happy Nils and Amsoil saber customer here, my Nils has always ran Sabre at 80:1. Never any issues and always starts on about the third pull, doesn't smoke, original spark plug. Only reason I mix at 80:1 is just in case I'm off a little bit I know I'm covered. I don't always use premium gas either, I'm fine with 87 with ethanol right out of the farm tank. I use either a little bit of seafoam or stabil in every gallon jug I mix up.

[fins_n'_feathers]

I would say about 1/4 of the holes I drill, auger will get stuck!

Drilling through about 30",When I first got it she ran sweet, pulled right through, now it's kind of ticking me off!

And not iced up, I could drill 2-3 holes and the next stuck.

Dull blades?

I have had my nils for 3 years and have had the same problem since I punched my first hole. When I put the auger together the shaft was very hard to slide into the adapter and once tightened down it had quite the wobble to it. I called the factory and they said they had some bad ones that were shipped out and the sent me a new shaft. The next one slid in to easy and even when tightened down wiggles around quite a bit. The auger has a mind of it's own, one day it drills like mad and the next it gets bogged down and sticks in every hole. Has always seemed underpowered and always takes 10-20 pulls to start. I've tried about every different kind of oil and mixtures and nothing seems to help. I'm beginning to think I got a Lemmon because all my buddies have them and they start on the second pull and drill all day. Anyone else have similar problems or know how to fix the loose shaft to adapter problem? That wobble can't be helping.

[bee]

This will fix the hard start. You will need to heat a nail and let it melt into the plastic plug. let it cool in place then remove the plug. Turn the adj. screw out 1/4 turn. The plug is in the brass

http://www.walbro.com/media/21936/SERVICEMANUAL.pdf

[fins_n'_feathers]

Thanks, I'll give that a shot. It runs good once it starts but it takes lots of messing around to get it going. I'll try it tomorrow.

[Esox_Magnum]

Or you can hold the throttle open and it will start easier...

[fins_n'_feathers]

That is what I have to do to make it start, pump the bulb abot 5 times, full choke and hold the throttle half way and that makes it start. Something doesn't seem right about having the choke on and giving it throttle at the same time but it works I guess, always starts but takes a while.

[Esox_Magnum]

As long as there's gas in the lines using the primer does nothing...

[Lawrence Luoma]

Just curious have you tried using the auger on a different lake? Mainly there are times were ice just forms funny on a lake. I've seen it happen where an auger just has trouble on a certain lake during the late season cause of just bad ice formation.

[fishinnut_3446]

So far everything is golden!

Emptied gas and mixed new batch 91oct/50:1 Amsoil Saber pro. let it run for a tank and 1/2.

Seems to run a little better and lifting now and then to remove slush is helping,has not got stuck yet.

[Esox_Magnum]

The 91 won't help much in fact will cause harder starts in cold weather....

[20lbSloughShark]

87 octane would be better, but any gas station I've been to only sells regular. Non-oxygenated fuels are way better on small engines. The extra 4 octane does not make it noticeably harder to start. Mine starts 2 pulls no matter what I put in it.